Lipgloss moves from La Rumba to Beauty Bar

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Eric Gruneisen
Westword (Jon Solomon): What were your thoughts when you first heard about Lipgloss moving?

Jesse Morreale: Surprised. I mean, it's been eight and a half years. My team and our club contributed so much to the growth of that product. To face that kind of, like, blatant disregard to us and all the people that work at La Rumba and everything. It was kind of shocking to me. The whole thing just seems very counter-intuitive. I mean, first of all, I don't even know what he said. I heard there's something called a Facebook. So what is he saying the reasoning is?

I heard one of the reasons was a monetary thing. Maybe he thought he wasn't getting paid what he deserved.

The deal has been the same with Michael since we started the night eight and a half years ago. It's rewards-based. Basically, everybody shared in the same pie at the same amount, so it doesn't make any sense. Do you know what I mean? If more people came, then it would be a bigger pie; therefore, everybody gets a bigger piece of that pie, right? That's the way that works.

I think the night, just in and of itself, is just kind of dead. I mean, it has been, despite the awards and despite the exposure and despite us all talking it up, you know? I feel that whole crowd is always looking for the next. That's always been the foundation of it. And let's be honest, Lipgloss is a little tired.

I think another reason why he decided to switch venues might be he wanted new.

I think the product itself is kind of worn-out, and that's unfortunate. A change in geography isn't going to change what the night is. After eight and half years, there are a lot of people that would just go to Lipgloss inadvertently. They'd end up there because of the geography and because they knew that people go to La Rumba on Friday nights.

So you move it, and, all a sudden, people can't find you because they weren't looking for you in the first place. Well, that could be a problem. I don't know, though. If you move it to the Beauty Bar, which is incrementally smaller -- no, it's a lot smaller -- maybe the vibe will be different. I mean, however many people in a big club and you stick that same number of people in a little club, it's going to feel busier. But at the end of day, it's not. I just don't know.

So this Friday will be the last Lipgloss there?

Believe it not, yes, sir.

Do you have any particular fond memories of Lipgloss?

Yeah, absolutely. Certainly the growth of it. I like building things. I don't do what I do because I'm some money-grubbing, twenty-first century vulture. I like building things, and I like seeing people happy. And so I think the first couple years are the fondest memory for me, with everybody working together. That was back when Michael and Tyler would actually work at promoting.

We were all working hard for a common goal of building something cool, and seeing it evolve into something as big as it was. That was probably the fondest memory...then watching it go through its decline, becoming less vital and less vibrant -- that's the worst memory, other than an e-mail on a Saturday fucking morning.



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Dannylarumba
Dannylarumba

Join us tonight for the final Lipgloss at La Rumba! Next Friday we will offer a special one night only event-So What! Dance Party with DJs Big Styles and K-nee. Keep your ears open for the announcement of our amazing new Friday night starting June 15th! 

Alex
Alex

"After eight and half years, there are a lot of people that would just go to Lipgloss inadvertently. They'd end up there because of the geography and because they knew that people go to La Rumba on Friday nights."

Oh, please. That's ridiculous. I get that owner/managers always want to re-write history to make their product look better, but don't try and bullshit an entire scene.

eric f
eric f

Someone said they already have new DJ's in place to start tonight.

Kitty Vincent
Kitty Vincent

Many people know I am Michael Trundle's girlfriend, so there are those who will consider my comments biased, which I accept. However, I was surprised to see that Jesse Morreale (owner of La Rumba) was interviewed while Westword chose not to interview the owners of Beauty Bar. Jesse is clearly angry, and it stands to reason that he would put a negative spin on this article because he feels slighted over losing Lipgloss.  On the other hand, interviewing the owners of Beauty Bar would have put a much more positive light on the move, the decisions behind it, and the night's future moving forward. I can't help but wonder if the motivation behind this decision was more about creating controversy and readership than about supporting the work and dedication Michael has put into growing our local scene for over a decade now.  Just something to consider...

guest
guest

That is rather insulting for Jesse to say the night is "tired", if the night was so tired then why didn't be pull the plug on it? Hopefully Beauty Bar will be committed to the night, the only thing they seem consistant at is having events at other venues. Best of luck

Guest
Guest

Trundle- Why is it that after 8 1/2 years, you couldn't make so much as a phone call to Morreale instead of an email? Strikes me as a touch cowardly and awfully ungrateful.

WAAAA WAAA WAAAA
WAAAA WAAA WAAAA

"The deal has been the same with Michael since we started the night eight and a half years ago." To bad gas prices aren't the same as 8.5 years ago Jesse. 

brian griff
brian griff

Jesse Morreales is a piece of work.  I really don't like Trundel.  I think he's a on the arrogant side of things but if he hurt Jesse's feelings I might buy him a drink sometime soon because Jesse is a fucking asshole.  That guy sucks life away from the living.  What an asshole.

Jmpmk2
Jmpmk2

Definitely an end of an era; and yeah, the product is vastly different than it was from 2005-2009.  The music took a shift to cheap electronica and kiddie-dubsteb, and stopped playing memorable songs that would make you smile for three hours straight.  It used to be so easy to drag a dozen people there on any weekend -- people you couldn't get to go to another dance club -- even for just the last hour, before close, to cap a night off.  Different attitude brought a different crowd, and sure, maybe we grew into our late-20's a bit too.

La Rumba?  I'll miss your $2 gin and tonics, but the location was never a draw for me.  It's an island between South Broadway and LoDo, and it's not an easy walk from either direction.  I haven't been in two years, and I don't see myself going back again either.  Cap Hill is a better commute, and maybe my favorite dance night will be more back-to-basics.

duane
duane

looks like jesse got a case of sour grapes to me

extremetaylor
extremetaylor

That would be a pr disaster.  There's a ton of press about this being the  last Lip Gloss tonight.  It's the reason I'm going tonight.  If I pay five bucks for that and I get there and it's not the Lip Gloss guys I'm going to be pissed!  Larumba better be ready to start doing a lot of refunds and getting a lot of negative press if they do that.

backbeatmod
backbeatmod

Kitty, thanks for weighing in. Appreciate hearing your perspective and getting your feedback. Regardless of your ties, you make a valid point: Speaking with the owners of Beauty Bar will indeed offer another perspective -- and we will likely catch up with them sometime after Lipgloss makes the move to get their perspective, as well. While these news items tend to feel definitive, really the scene is dynamic and covering it is an ongoing conversation. Right now, the main part of the story is Lipgloss leaving La Rumba, and that's why we spoke with both Michael and Jesse. But rest assured, our coverage of both Lipgloss and whatever ends up taking its place at La Rumba will continue. Anyhow, thanks again for taking the time to share your thoughts.

Michael Trundle
Michael Trundle

I believe the answer to the whole "tired" rant might be answerable by the first comment under this article.  However, I am trying to avoid the negativity which has attached itself to something that I feel very positive and happy about, and which I think proves to me more and more that I made the right choice in this move.

As far as Beauty Bar, there are no concerns there.  Both Lipgloss and Beauty Bar are dedicated and eager to make this night work in the new location, and we will.  I hope you can come down and check it out.  Thanks for the wish of luck!

Michael Trundle
Michael Trundle

Guest - 

I did try calling Jesse before I sent the email but went straight through to voicemail.  Rather than wait I, decided to go ahead and send the email to him and the rest of involved staff.  Perhaps I should have waited until I could get through, but I had plans for the rest of the day that precluded the possibility of a later phone call and I felt it best to let them know of my decision at that point.  In any case, this situation is what it is and I doubt waiting even longer to make another phone call would have eased anything.

JoJo
JoJo

So they both suck, eh? 

Michael Trundle
Michael Trundle

Come down and check it out again, Jmpmk2.  I think you'll be surprised.  Electronica has definitely made an inroad as so much of today's music falls into that category, but there have been little to no dubstep or electro "bangers" played at Lipgloss for almost a year, and we have a STRICT no dubstep policy - from residents or guest DJ's.  Many of those memorable songs you talk about have made their way back into rotation along with some newer ones.  That's part of the reason I wanted to move into a place that felt a little more like Lipgloss at 60 S. felt from 2001-2004.  A smaller club lends itself better to that vibe than a big club.  It feels more appropriate somehow.  Let me know if you'd like to come down.  I'll take care of you and some drinks and you can let me know what you think!  michael@denver3.com

Michael Trundle
Michael Trundle

Hi Taylor, 

"guest" is correct.  This one article is not remotely a "ton of press."  Club nights don't really ever garner what one could call that, as the scope of interested parties is too small to warrant it.  I'm glad you saw the article in any case.

However, you are correct in your statement that a lot of people would be upset were they to attend and not have an actual final Lipgloss at La Rumba, as that is why we promoted tonight at La Rumba and didn't start at our new venue tonight.  I'm moving forward with the assumption that we will be allowed to hold the night there tonight as agreed to by myself, Jesse Morreale and the club's management, and that this agreement will be kept - if for nothing else so that the guests of Lipgloss and La Rumba will be given what they were promised.  I truly believe while there may be a lot of tension and anger between myself and Jesse - not really from my end, but that hardly matters - that we will move forward with tonight as planned.  

If you don't see Brennen and I on the DJ stage, then you'll know that I was incorrect about that assumption.

guestU
guestU

Unless it's on the TV News and multiple Print publications it's not a lot of press. A blog interview / article on Westword.com would not be considered alot of press.

Guest
Guest

It just seems to me that maybe the fact that you're 40 years old and having trouble paying your rent could be attributed to the fact that you quit a long standing job via email.

Szaszen
Szaszen

And we don't have to see your resume to know its not impressive.

Denverboom
Denverboom

 Actually, in modern professional resignation etiquette (Even in Fortune 500 companies), it is perfectly acceptable to send resignation emails (and actually preferred to phone calls) in 2012

Michael Trundle
Michael Trundle

One can hardly attribute my entire financial situation to how I notified this venue of my decision or even whatever attributes you seem to think are inherent in one who did so.  One could far more easily attribute it to the fact that I choose to work in a field I love which by its nature doesn't pay very well, and that I was working under a deal which paid even less than that nature would normally call for.

It's clear you have a set opinion on this situation and that I am not likely to change it, so I will sign off of this particular conversation now.  I do understand your basic point and perhaps I should have waited until I could speak to Jesse first. I just felt the more notice everyone had the sooner everyone could move forward with future plans.  Hindsight is, as they say, 20/20, but I made the decision I felt best at the time and I will stand by it.

Thank you for your comments.

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