Reader: The more liquor licenses, the more liquored-up people on South Gaylord

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Il Vicino Wood Oven Pizza, a New Mexico-based company that has a restaurant at 550 Broadway, managed to do what Brown Dog Pizza, an outfit out of Telluride, could not -- secure a liquor license for 1001 South Gaylord Street. Brown Dog got badly bitten in that dogfight, which involved some ugly neighborhood squabbling, but Il Vicino emerged relatively unscathed from the December 28 hearing, and is moving ahead with plans.

Still, the city's approval of the license did not put an end to the complaints. Sunnygirl just posted this yesterday:

I grew up on Gaylord st, and I can tell you that the issue at hand is not the retail shops and not so much the parking ( though it does getting annoying at times), but the big issue being fought is the amount of liquor in the area. I was born in this neighborhood and as far back as I can remember there where beer bottles all over my yard and at night I could here drunk people yelling and keeping me awake. There was even once I saw a drunk couple fighting and a man slapped a woman in the face. Now this is a family neighborhood and I can tell you that is not something I would want my kids to see. The more places with a liquor license the more drunk people there will be, and the more trash in the front of our houses.

But as another commenter points out, the commercial pocket on South Gaylord is as old as most of the houses around it...so let the buyer beware. Want a pizza this action? Post a comment below, or join the South Gaylord squabble already under way here.



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Boycott south gaylord street
Boycott south gaylord street

Wow!  Good for you Gaylord street. This is the cherry on top.  Instead of a locally owned, small business with AMAZING recipes and pizza, you got a CHAIN restaurant with subpar food and an order at the counter style.  Good for you!  Nice work neighborhood association.  I hope to see Jane, Greg and Mike there every night as they clearly didn't put up a fight for this "pizza place" with a liquor license.  I wil now officially BOYCOTT this rundown, unwelcoming street.  Way to support small business and good food, CHOKE on it!

Snafunk
Snafunk

Where was Mike S w/ all of this? Unf'ing real. You start world war 3 over a pizza joint from the mountains but a chain (with another store not 3 miles from this one) get the license? I'd like to know what Mike's real problem w/ Brown Dog was b/c it was clearly not about the liquor license.  

CHOW!
CHOW!

The SGNA won the battle with Brown Dog but lost the war in trying to secure a car share lot (to bad for Mike S, maybe for the better, your gut needs some work, walking an extra block everyday should help).  So the annoying, pretentious, nimbys still got their smoke, parking, trash, noise problems that they were so trying to fight.  Wouldn't it be wonderful if the smoke from IL Vincinos wood burning oven smokes out all the Jane Ls and Greg Os of Wash Park.  Good Luck to IL Vincino!  

cmack23
cmack23

Absolutley ridiculous that all the new money $$ that lives in Wash park and probably live "green" and shops local etc etc wont allow LOCAL small business yet they allow a chain to come and open, I hope your perfect precious lawns continue to be littered with beer bottles and pizza boxes.  I doubt Il Vicino gives a shit about what a beautiful neighborhood theyre in, just money.  If you've been to Brown Dog you'd know it is a true laid back "neighborhood joint"  bummer.

Matt
Matt

Won't someone please think of the children!!!

Jim Rome
Jim Rome

Yes, please keep this elicit behavior out of white neighborhoods! I hate those lowlife yuppies who go drink their sake at Sushi Den or drink there wine at Black Pearl.  We need some family restaurants, like Applebees that limits patrons to two Mega Margs, so we can protect our children. 

Burb
Burb

Sunnygirl is absolutely right.  Perhaps a Gunther Toody's is appropriate for that location.  I hear it's toodlicious!

eldaveablo
eldaveablo

"Want a pizza this action?"

I see what you did there... Well played. 

guest
guest

oh no!  not in my back yard!!!f'n whiners.

GFTW
GFTW

Such behavior so close to Wash Park, the epicenter of perfect people?? No way!

We need to clean up all the MMJ clinics. The more of them (I think they now outnumber Starbucks), the more dumb stoned people walking around.

Mantonat
Mantonat

So the answer is you build the perfect community with great schools and only the best retail outlets with minimal or no access to alcohol and everything is sunny and great and then a kid guns down 15 people in his high school.

Denying a pizza joint a liquor license will not shield your children from reality or keep the bad elements off your front lawn. Teach your children responsibility and talk to them when they have questions about the bad stuff in life as well as the good stuff. And if there's such a concern, how did you and your neighbor's ever allow a meat market like The Tavern to open in such a quiet neighborhood? Seriously, you are worried about a wood-fired pizza restaurant when there's already a bar that brings in DJs at 9pm on Thursday nights?

I honestly don't see the difference between Il Vicino or Brown Dog having liquor licenses at that location - maybe there were details about the hours of operation, the seating capacity, the outdoor seating, etc., that came out in the hearings. Either way, the best solution is to go have a pizza, talk to the managers, find out what kind of people they are, and encourage you your friends with children to frequent the place. 

too bad for you
too bad for you

 you took the words right out of my mouth regarding the chain vs local.  I would very much like to know how this happened.

And to all the complainers in the neighborhood - good luck now!  I am sure that the corporate office out of state will be MUCH more responsive to your issues than a local place.  This should work VERY well for you!  Reap what you sow, I guess

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