Reader: We scream for ice cream -- but in Berkeley or Harkness Heights?

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Just in time for the Memorial Day weekend, Matt and Rosemary Lopez, who've owned Taza de Cafe for the six years, finally opened Charlie's Ice Cream Social right next door in the hot Berkeley neighborhood.

Or is it?

Says Sarathe:

I know "Berkeley" has taken over everything, but if you want to be really all about this neigborhood name crap (which everyone that has invaded this area does), it is really Harkness Heights, since the place in on 44th and east of Lowell.

Berkeley or Harkness Heights? Northwest Denver or northside? In these days of mobile maps, are neighborhood names losing their importance? Post your thoughts below, or just join the conversation already under way here.

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Charlie's Ice Cream Social

3559 W. 44th Ave., Denver, CO

Category: Restaurant

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neighborhoodlove
neighborhoodlove

Really... does it matter what neighborhood you are in.  Yes, it can be hard to figure out - at times.   Yes, the Berkeley merchants have worked hard to define themselves after a major construction revamp. They love the area and the neighborhoods. They promote local businesses and have continued to do so during very trying times and hardships.  As local business owners they work hard to keep themselves alive, but NEVER BASH THEIR NEIGHBORS - THEY EMBRACE THEM!Eat your ice cream in peace and embrace where you are, wherever you believe it to be and ask yourself - does it matter.  IT'S TIME TO COME TOGETHER. 

Rebecca
Rebecca

It's Grandview, w/in the Berkeley 'hood. Harkness Heights is across 44th to the south. Also w/in Berkeley.

Lbortolotto
Lbortolotto

Talk about neighborhood controversy!  You haven't even touched on the can-of-worms that is Lower Highland, or Highland, or LoHi.  Just the mere mention of the realtor-inspired monicker 'LoHi' is enough to get long-time residents into a twist.

As a business owner in the area, 'LoHi' is catchy and trendy and the kids dig it; however diplomacy requires the use of the term 'Highland' when dealing with long time residents as they feel their neighborhood is under attack by skinny-jean wearing hipsters and Porsche-driving yuppies.  Oh how the times have changed!

Steveo65
Steveo65

I live within a 2 mile radius of Lou's Food Bar, Linger, Tocabe, Z Cuisine, Big Hoss BBQ, Ernie's, Chubby's, Carl's Pizza, Sushi Sasa, Root Down and Bang!.  These restaurants are in Highlands, West Highlands, Berkeley, Harkness Heights, Sunnyside etc. So technically, I am venturing out of my neighborhood when I visit these establishments. When I was growing up, we just called it North Denver. I can't  think of another neighborhood in Denver as provincial. I remember someone commenting about Lou's when it opened, stating it would probably fail because Sunnyside was "sketchy". Seriously?

JW
JW

I live in Harkness Heights and it is part of the larger Berkeley area. It would need to be on the opposite (south) side of the street to truly be in the Harkness Heights subdivision. If you want to be that specific I believe the subdivision to the north of Harkness Heights on that side of 44th is Mountain View.

local
local

FYI - Sarathe - Berkeley has not taken over, they are trying to survive and you might want to embrace them because the are not the bad guys.  They help and promote everyone in the neighborhood.  Just ask Lauren Wolf from "Totally Tennyson" who just raised over 30,000 dollars for DPS.  They were sponsors donating thousands of dollars, time and over 1,000 free donations per business.  When ever you do that - come back and bitch about Berkeley - otherwise SHOUT UP!  You are selling ice cream - they are supporting the neighborhood.

Sarathe
Sarathe

 So what, is the dividing line right down the middle of the street of 44th?  Since it is along 44th, I consider it still part of the Harkness Heights.  Although I suppose if you are thinking about it from the other way (GV looking south), you would think the opposite. 

I never refer to any of these neighborhood names anyway. all the naming is really for the newcomers.  To me, Berkeley is actually Berkeley - around Berkeley Park.  So the "boundaries" have been extended waaaaaay too far anyway.

And for us old timers, it is Northwest Denver, not just Northside.  NW Denver has not much in common with NE, at least not in the old days.

Aceranchero
Aceranchero

Not actually under attack, more like an infestation. Like Miller moths in May ("Adults of this species fly at night from June to August and will come to light and sugar but are not especially strongly attracted…"), you know when the pests will arrive, starting around 4pm on Friday, they shed their four wheeled exoskeletons and scurry about LoHi looking for food and drink and to mate, with numbers dwindling by Sunday afternoon.  

no more
no more

 When I was in college (early 90s), someone I knew (who didn't know I was from the area) referred to Elitch's (old E's) as "that crime infested neighborhood".

It isn't inner city Detriot, but people were definitely fearful of the whole NW Denver area.  It is certainly a whole lot less sketchy than even 5 or 10 years ago.

JW
JW

Grand View not Mountain View.

Rebecca
Rebecca

For us seriously old timer residents, it's not NW Denver, it's the Northside.

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