Reader: Trader Joe's at Eighth and Colorado is all kinds of wrong

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On Friday the Denver Business Journal broke the news that Trader Joe's would be opening its second store at Eighth and Colorado Boulevard. (The first -- which means the one that also gets to sell liquor under Colorado's convoluted code -- will debut next year in Boulder's Twenty Ninth Street development, in the spot currently occupied by Applebee's.)

The news was meant with general jubilation...and some skepticism.

Says Absolute1:


This is all kinds of wrong.

The location has NOWHERE near enough parking to support the kind of traffic TJ's will draw. As the first Denver store, it will generate lots of interest, even if only from the looky-loo" crowd. Eighth Ave is far too narrow a street to support this, and the 8th/CO Blvd intersection is already a badly congested one. The surrounding neighborhood will suffer.

Mark my words - I'm a TJ's veteran since childhood, have seen this countless times in other cities/states. If there are to be more of them, they should occupy vacant shopping center spaces with PLENTY of parking - like the many abandoned Albertsons sites around town, for example.

How do you think a Trader Joe's will do at Eighth and Colorado? Where would you rather see it?


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Shifty
Shifty

Actually maybe they reversed the decision... because the Denver Store will get the Liquor License... 

riewer01
riewer01

great idea, location a little congested....wish they would have put TJ'S IN the old Right Aid store on colfax...great location and plenty of parking....but sigh...no they did not, now we have the cheap and very limited family dollar store there, and they cannot keep their property clean.....but hey, at least Trader Joes wont have the forever cheezy and stupid latte chick joint across the street either!  Denver really attracts every kind of venue, and no matter where they put TJ'S it will be great, as long as they keep it out of the Burbs.....

 

Mary
Mary

There will be congestion at that intersection because there already is! There's a jog in 8th at Colorado and that always causes traffic hazards and confusion, anyway.  Not a good location unless the parking lot is created just for TJ's.  I live in Gilpin county and know several friends who will be traveling to Boulder or Denver just to do their shopping at TJ's (we'll probably carpool often) and from the chatter on the net, there's going to be people coming from way far away to shop there.  I hope they re-think the traffic problems and plan accordingly.  Hopefully, TJ's will already be planning for more Denver locations. And for Boulder - OY!  The mall area is already insanely congested and with everyone heading there after the opening they may regret it.  I had written them that I thought somewhere in Broomfield for the first store would be easier for traffic control for their first store, being central to both Denver and Boulder and surrounding suburbs. It will be interesting, to say the least. Finally - it's about friggin' time, TJ's! Good for you.

hr
hr

I live blocks from 8th and Colorado and I'm looking forward to it. It's a city neighborhood and yes, that means traffic! So what? I get thru it everyday. There are worse problems. I'm excited that Congress Park will finally have a nearby grocery and I'm happy to see money and companies coming into Denver proper.

Guest
Guest

You all seem to be ignoring the most important part...NO LIQUOR LICENSE!  No Two Buck Chuck?  Nevermind then, I'll go to Sunflower Market!  Stupid Boulder gets the stupid liquor license! *kicks dirt*

Chill303
Chill303

Wow the comments here are all over the place. I mean really, just because a Trader Joe's was placed in a crappy area somewhere else with horrible traffic, etc, they should REPEAT the mistake out here? What kind of argument is that?

Trader Joe's has the ability to start fresh in an area with great want/need for them. Downtown has been without a reasonable grocer for over a decade! There is a new development going up near the new downtown transit center that would be ideal for TJ's.

More importantly, there are ton's of great spots TJ's could goto in Denver. Just a few examples; Sears Co. closed The Great Indoors accross from Park Meadows mall. Here is a location with twice the parking of any grocery store and access from C470, I-25 (and not the nasty T-Rex part of I-25) and E-470. People will already make the adventure there like many did for IKEA and so being a little out of downtown would be a great start and then open location #2 at that above mentioned site. No matter what, I just hope they reconsider putting anything near Colorado Blvd.

Ashlandbus
Ashlandbus

both of the trader joes we have here in oakland, ca are in areas similar (if not busier) to 8th and colorado... zero parking and extremely long lines. get used to it.

typical
typical

Welcome to the world of Trader Joes, Coloradans!  The most important of all criteria for placement of a TJ is lack of parking.  So it sounds like this one is exactly where the company would want to be.

I have been to TJs all over, and only maybe less than a handful have not been in locations that aren't a complete CF for parking.

D-Hause
D-Hause

I hope they are open 24 hours a day b/c the only way i'm going there is at 1am on a Tuesday.  I avoid those intersections like the plague now they are going to make it even worse...

Jim Rome
Jim Rome

The whole area is going to be redeveloped.  I'm guessing 8th will be widened and the timing of lights will be adjusted.  So maybe everyone who has not seen the master plan development should wait to voice their misguided opinion.  Also if you have a problem with traffic may I suggest not living in such a high occupancy area... I hear Greely is really nice, little traffic. 

EB
EB

Seeing as a good percentage of Denver has little problem (or just puts up) with the parking/traffic situation at Whole Foods in Cherry Creek, I think this won't be the apocalyptic disaster everyone is predicting. That area could use a shot in the arm (pun intended).

lipster
lipster

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that most of the people on their high horses (or bicycles) about riding your bike to the grocery store don't have children (or more than one child).  Also, I think EY has a valid point. 

KoKo the Talking Ape
KoKo the Talking Ape

They aren't interested in traffic from the suburbs, apparently. That location is not close to a highway, and probably difficult for northbound traffic on Colorado Blvd. But it would be nice for that area, which lost the CU Medical Center some years ago. 

GFTW
GFTW

TJ's definitely should've consulted Jennstir Wolowitz. She's a world expert in chains.

Mantonat
Mantonat

With so much whining about parking issues all over town, maybe the name of this blog should be changed to Parking Society. There are so many available options available to reduce parking stress in high-density areas that to complain is to admit that only your method of transportation is valid. If Trader Joe's decided to build in Aurora or Jeffco or Douglas County, people would complain that it's not in Denver. 

Simon
Simon

It's great that TJs is finally making it to Denver but the location is terrible. Traffic will be a nightmare, especially when the store first opens. It's bad news for those of us who live in the neighborhood and use Colorado Blvd on a daily basis. I think Stapleton would have been a better option, maybe across from Northfield, right off of Rt. 70.

Guest
Guest

1. 7th is extremely bike friendly making riding a bike a great way to get to TJ.2. "The surrounding neighborhood will suffer." What? It's not as though the area immediately near 8th and CO BLVD is particularly nice to begin with. 

Retiree
Retiree

If you were ever in a TJ's you'd soon realize that two buck chuck is about 53rd on the list of interesting things. Want cheap wine, go to your corner liquor store.

Jim Rome
Jim Rome

Guess what? This is going to be the 2nd of 10-15 Trader Joes that will be opening around the metro area.  They cant make a (decent) profit with 2 stores in the state, there will be multiple locations in the years to come.  So take your own advice and chill.  I am sure the people who decided to put this store off of Colorado know more about where to open a store than you do (as demonstrated by your comment that they should open in a place that could fit a Costco inside of it) 

Retiree
Retiree

If they took over the Great Indoors space, it would be the largest Trader Joe's in the universe. Don't think that's going to happen.

DavidC
DavidC

Agreed. Perhaps, instead of whining, some should consider riding a bike, taking the light rail, or (*gasp*) walking.

Retiree
Retiree

We just went through a six block traffic jam on Colorado Blvd yesterday, right around 7th and 8th street. It happens frequently.

Ann
Ann

Riding a bike to Trader Joes's won't work because you will buy so much stuff you won't be able to get home.  That area is already too congested - it should go into a mall-type area with lots of parking.

DavidC
DavidC

I buy 80-90% of my groceries on a bike. It's not difficult. I'm looking forward to riding down 7th to get groceries from TJ's some day soon!

Guest
Guest

Based on my experience living near a TJ's in Chicago, TJ's is a place you go to buy a few specific items, not your entire grocery list. Hence, biking there is totally viable. It won't be like trying to bike home with a month's worth of shit from Costco. If you're so concerned about traffic on CO Blvd, you can lead by example and bike there. 

EY
EY

See.  That's what people aren't getting.  It is going into a "mall-type area".  You can't disconnect the new Trader Joe's on that corner with the redevelopment of the hospital district.  Let's at least wait until we see the final (or any) designs for the area--including traffic and parking plans--before we assume that it is too congested with not enough parking.

Megan
Megan

 I bike to the grocery store all the time with my spouse.  On the two bikes, we have 4 large grocery paniers and can buy plenty of food.

Retiree
Retiree

Good for bikers, but I think that in a typical year, if Joe's has, say, 100,000 customers, most of them won't be coming on bikes.

guest
guest

Maybe it's not an option for people who don't live there.  Colorado and 8th is a horrible location.  There are a ton of other sites tha would be more accommodating.  This area is so congested as it is that it's impossible to get anywhere near there in a timely manner.

John
John

Good point. I think what would really help that area is a pedestrian bridge over Colorado Blvd. Might be a pipe dream but it'll make it a lot easier. I'll drive further west to go eat because crossing Colorado is such a pain.

GFTW
GFTW

Colorado's liquor laws are so gay!

Guest
Guest

But the story says this one won't have a liquor license...only the one in Boulder - such horseshit!  What's the point then?  We already have a Wild Oats!

GFTW
GFTW

Yeah, but in a car your open Two Buck Chuck isn't as visible!

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