Announcement: We have a winner of our Justice League pool party contest

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Okay, so this morning I posted a contest giving one Cafe Society commenter (and a guest) the opportunity to swell their guts with beer and grub for free at Sunday's Justice League of Street Food bash, which gets started at 5 p.m. and takes place at the TAXI development -- specifically in (and around) the pool, which, as I noted, was built from shipping containers.

We asked readers this question: How much does the water in the pool weigh?

And, oh boy, did we get some complex answers that go way beyond my mathematical capabilities. And I'll be the first to admit that while my arithmetic skills are second to none, mathematical equations stump me, which may or may not explain why I failed (epically) algebra and just about every other math class, while maintaining a straight-A average in English and literature.

So, yeah, I kinda suck at math. Anyway, Kyle Zeppelin, the developer of the TAXI project, suggested I pose the question, and since he commissioned the pool and had it built, he also gave me the answer (naturally).

And the correct answer, according to Zeppelin, is 998,778 pounds -- a number that Randall Smock came the closest to with his guess of 966,338 pounds.

To appease all of you who will insist that there's NO WAY IN HELL that he's correct (your comments came through loud and clear), I'm going to ask him again. And if there's an update, and it turns out his calculation is incorrect, you'll be the first to know. But as it stands now, Mr. Smock is our winner. Congratulations!

Enjoy the three-day weekend!

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I doubt a practicing structural engineer would really be so bad at math to come up with that number. More likely the TAXI folks are misinterpreting a number given to them. The engineer probably gave them some calculation about the total weight supported by the entire pool structure, inclunding the deck and tower.


Although if TAXI really did hire an engineer that believes that two 40 foot containers could hold 998,778 lbs of water, you may want to be weary about buying or leasing space there. You'd need to worry about ceilings collapsing and walls falling over if someone so incompetent was involved in the construction.

LoriMidsonCafeSociety moderator editor

This is Kyle Zeppelin's response:


"From TAXI POOL: The calculations we have received are consistent with the answer provided - I would never personally venture to calculate or pretend like I understand why and how this works but that is the answer we received from the structural engineer that we worked with on the pool. The caveat to the calculations ... the actual dimension for the water is full depth of the container--9-10'. There is a ledger that's made out of the former tops of the containers that creates a false bottom at the depths quoted in the article but the containers are full to capacity. The ledger provides the structural support for the pool to keep it from expanding out. Hope this clears matters a bit. See you on Sunday IN THE POOL!"


Case closed.


If that structural engineer is a PE he should lose his license.


Unless the weight of the pool reported includes something in addition to that water, Zeppelin's answer is 3 times what is physically possible, unless of course the pool happens to be on Jupiter.

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @LoriMidsonCafeSociety Pathetic ... truly pathetic.


Grown adults who claim to have graduated high school, who can't even calculate the volume of a simple box.


Does it hurt to be so stupid? 


Seriously -- this is why America is failing, and deserves to fail, it's populated by idiots and morons. "Algebra" ?? ... it's BASIC MATH and SIMPLE GEOMETRY that any 6th grader should know.


Length x Width x Height = Volume


80 feet x 7.5 feet x 8 feet = 4800 cubic feet


Weight of 1 cubic foot of water = 62.42 pounds


Weight of 4800 cubic feet of water = 62.42 x 4800 = 299,616 pounds


That's the MAXIMUM the water would weigh if the pool were 8 feet deep its entire 80 foot length.


If it were only 3.5 feet deep the entire length it would weigh 131,082 pounds.


So the correct answer for the sloping bottom MUST BE between 131,082 and 299,616 pounds -- any thing else is IMPOSSIBLE!


So we've got a clueless journalist, an ignorant business owner, and a dangerously incompetent "engineer" who all are in erroneous agreement.


And who -- exactly -- is this Randall Smock who mysteriously "won" with a laughably impossible answer that "coincidentally" is also 3x more than the given volume of water could possibly weigh on planet Earth?


If WW is going to run bogus contests where they award their friends who post impossibly idiotic answers, why not skip the phony contest and just give your pals the prize ?


DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @thespot84 Even if they added the weight of the steel shipping containers, at ~8700 lbs per High Cube, they are still 3x beyond the maximum possible weight for the volume given.


Behold the FAILURE of America ... where grown Adults, educated in the U$A, supposedly graduated High School, some even claim College Degrees, don't have the basic math / simple geometry skill that elementary school children in Asia or Europe possess.


So sad.



 @DonkeyHotay  @LoriMidsonCafeSociety Actually the reason Randall Smock got the right answer is simple. He integrated 1 unknown in the volume function. This gave him the volume of the pool in 4 dimensions, known commonly to weekend physicists as a hyperpool.


Clearly this is a case of a lack of information, or implied knowledge, as we, the guessers, should have known that no developer of urban, hipster, mixed-use projects worth his salt would have installed any old 3 dimensional pool.




And we have to look no further than your posts for daily affirmation of that. Thanks you ignorant, arrogant, moronic American, you!

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @thespot84  Ah yes, the missing dimension of ignorance, which permeates modern American society like an invisible Higgs Field. 


One can't see it, but its effects are felt everywhere.



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