Reader: If you want to raise minimum wage, don't bitch when McDonald's Value menu is $8

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On Friday, protesters demonstrated outside the McDonald's on the 16th Street Mall, celebrating the new National Labor Review Board ruling that holds the corporation accountable for the level of wages paid at all of its restaurants, including fanchises, and calling for an increase in the minimum wage. There was just one particular problem with the choice of location for the protest: the owner already pays his employees more than minimum wage, and more than the standard McDonald's compensation. "We do a real nice job taking care of our employees," Tom Carlson said. "We are not a minimum-wage employer."

See also: Protesters Picket Outside McDonald's on 16th Street for Higher Wages, Unionization"

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Kevin Galaba
But that didn't appear to matter to these demonstrators, who want to see minimum wage raised to $15 an hour. And that led to this response from Eric:

For the people who are for this, please don't bitch when the VALUE menu starts at $8. Please don't tell me you thought Ronald McDonald and the Hamburgler were gonna magically shit the extra money to cover the higher wages.
Do you think the minimum wage should be raised? If so, how much more would you be willing to pay for a McDonald's burger?






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Jayson Vonfreizer
Jayson Vonfreizer

How about we pay the CEO's no more than 1 million... then all the other money, goes back to employees?

Thomas Kenneth Dennis
Thomas Kenneth Dennis

The U.S. Government decides what we pay them for on everything for 200 years now sheeple

Tony Hopkins
Tony Hopkins

its simple, if you can't pay a fair wage, you shouldn't be in business

Sharon Garza
Sharon Garza

Stay IN school: Mcduck was for teens at home,not for Grown people who have bills// I was A single parent //Made it thur with a fast food job, lived pay day too pay day! But did it!

Charmaine Gilreath McCann
Charmaine Gilreath McCann

This is insane. It's all in skill set. How many skills you have. Teller earns $10.50, bankers start at $15. So basically I can flip a burger for as Much as professional person. Skill set

Michael Hartman
Michael Hartman

Missed the point, didn't you? They deal to themselves in bulk- they don't sell to the general public in bulk, and thus no membership fees to boost pay and benefits for workers. And big ag is a different monster than minimum wage arguments.

Pico Pico
Pico Pico

They should pay me before l take any of that shit.

Bret Kantola
Bret Kantola

I tried that garbage once in the 1980's. Still sorry.

Margaux Milchen
Margaux Milchen

I don't eat at McDonalds. I usually spend about $ 12 in a local restaurant for lunch...oh and a tip ...so $15

joey.depue
joey.depue

Fire all of em and hire illegal immigrants. They will work for 7 bucks an hour because 6 families share a mortgage with 16 people in one house.

ironstagg66
ironstagg66

So how about a profit sharing program, maybe a monthly payout depending on how well the store performs or is that too much to ask of the Mickey D's/franchise owners? 

Nando Commando
Nando Commando

They're one of the few companies who could afford to pay more... though, they shouldn't be forced to. It's a free market.. or at least the illusion of it.

Tarayn Marissa
Tarayn Marissa

Minimum Wage is NOT the problem. It's the cost of living that's the problem.

Brian Martinez
Brian Martinez

Maybe prior to Reaganomics and the babyboomers inheriting a goldmine from their parents, but handing over their kids a shitsandwich.

Darrin Moore
Darrin Moore

Hey John, provide a list of what the progressive liberals have done for the middle class or poor will ya? I wanna good laugh today. F'n douche! Oh yeah wait...they provide more governmental handouts for the poor at the cost of the middle class! Liberals want the poor to rely on social programs so they can remain in power!

Charles Cusumano
Charles Cusumano

Corporate profits could take a small hit to gain good feeling from staff and consumer. No need to raise prices. It's blackmail

Ryan Gilmartin
Ryan Gilmartin

If they can't stay in business when paying their workers a fair wage they should go out of business...instead their workers are subsidized by the government with food stamps, and other forms of social welfare.

Louis Cruz Jr.
Louis Cruz Jr.

Republicans swear to keep people in poverty. They get rich off low wages while the government pays for food stamps . It's the Republican Way!

Aaron Davidson
Aaron Davidson

"Prices don't go up when executives get extra million dollar bonuses" I'm pretty sure Chipotle recently did just that.

Aaron Davidson
Aaron Davidson

Those CEOs pay way more in taxes than me and you.

Aaron Davidson
Aaron Davidson

We wouldn't have inflation problems if we'd stop printing money to pay for programs we can't afford. A candy bar shouldn't cost a freaking dollar. McDonald's actually helps combat inflation by finding ways to lower costs. A $1 hamburger is a remarkable bargain considering the state of the dollar.

Rosa Alex
Rosa Alex

Defy the statistics. Stop being lazy and find a job. Not all job openings are listed so your statistic is skewed. For instance I live in a community where farming is big, farmers don't list adds on craigslist or job finder. It's by word I mouth or someone going up to someone and saying "hey you need any help or have any work?" I started working when I was 15 and have held up to three jobs at one time to make ends meet. There hasn't been one day I haven't had a job since I started working. I've left jobs to take others that were better paying. It's about a persons will and determination to better themselves. Anyone with the right mind set can achieve anything.

ybarcewski
ybarcewski

This is all one big game. America is built on credit and buying stuff (including fast food). If we don't get paid enough to buy stuff, or food which is daily becoming  more expensive) or pay rent or buy a house (you can't on minimum wage) then the economy will stagnate. It's really very simple. Yes students and the retired that want or need to work to supplement SSI should be paid minimum wage at what it is today. After all they have support in one way or another.  And on another but somewhat related note:  Credit and hiring HB-1 non-citizens is the norm. You always know when the economy is "improving" because you see people who you can be pretty sure are on an HB-1 visas back buying stuff etc. when during the most of the "recession" (pretty much the norm for the last 14 years) were not as visible.  Maybe we are paying the wrong people the minimum wage.

Tim Tindle
Tim Tindle

Nothing at all. Count me as part of the population that is finished with fast food poison. The era is waning.

John Wayne Claybaugh
John Wayne Claybaugh

Actually, with or without an exact percentage it isn't nonsense. Nowhere in America can someone have a full time job at minimum wage (or even slightly above minimum wage) afford a market rate apartment. Studies have been done on that. So either raise minimum wage or watch the need for subsidized housing continue to grow.

Chris Estus
Chris Estus

What's the percentage? That's what I thought spouting nonsense.

Chris Estus
Chris Estus

obviously the answer is to stop giving government benefits.

John Wolfe
John Wolfe

Darrin, did you miss the outsourcing of middle class jobs that happened in this country?

John Wolfe
John Wolfe

Hey cliff, provide a list of what conservatives have done for the middle class or poor will ya? I wanna good laugh today. F'n douche

Riley Nolan
Riley Nolan

If tomorrow the minimum wage was $15 we would see hyper inflation, no question end of story. If over the next ten or so years you raised minimum wage yearly at say 10-20% more than the current rate of inflation you'd see a much better result. Also Michael I hate to say this but the world isn't all fairies and unicorns and you can bet that multinational corporate leaders won't allow their bottom line to come under attack. Why on earth do think wages stagnated in the first place. It's all about the bottom line and how many millions these people can pocket at the end of the quarter. Plus I never said that we shouldn't raise minimum wage, I simply stated that at the current market value minimum wage workers are only worth $10.50. Also Roosevelt was speaking in reference to hard and dangerous factory labor during the industrial revolution... Not burger flippers. Factory workers get paid fairly well now a days because it still is much more demanding than working in fast food. You aren't Roosevelt so don't apply his words to a context that didn't even exist when he was alive. Anyway I know you'll come back with some snarky "I'm smarter than you and I'm right your wrong" comment. So have at it. At the end of the day you just don't comprehend the market even on a basic level.

Brian Martinez
Brian Martinez

As ignorant as a idiot conservative that married a jarhead and listens to Liberal Pink Floyd music? Yes I blame Reagan. I put the blame where it belongs. That how accountability works. I do live in Thornton but have traveled the world plenty on my own dime unlike your government job boytoy.

Brian Martinez
Brian Martinez

I'm aware of all of that. I you read the article I attached you'd see they go over all of that. The good and the bad.

Chad Nelan
Chad Nelan

This would hurt small business plain and simple.

Chad Nelan
Chad Nelan

You know nothing about where I work and yes our counter help are high school kids. If we do hire adults more often than not they leave fairly quickly for a better paying job. The argument about marijuana is correct and I never felt the way you stated it has done nothing but good for my state of Colorado. How many business owners do you know from Seattle? Based on your statement I would say it's safe to assume 0. I know several. Some of them have closed their businesses due to being unable to pay everyone that or being unable to continue to run their business after laying anyone who didn't already make that much off. I also know several who were comfortable before and are now working 90 hours a week to make up for all the people they had to lay off due to the mandatory wage increase and are now as a result considering shutting their businesses down. If they can get this huge company that is slowly dying to pay people more while it slowly disappears great but raising the federal minimum to $15 an hour is ludicrous. I have myself worked 2 jobs to make ends meat and yes it sucked but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Burger flipping is an entry level job that deserves entry level pay. End of story. I would have never expected to get paid that much for the shitty jobs I was doing.

Esteban Mainzer
Esteban Mainzer

and jacob... $15 for a nurse is still way better than $8 for flipping burgers.

James Brown
James Brown

This isn't just employee vs McDonalds. A lot of the time it's employee vs franchisee, which many people fail to see. Sure, McDdonalds makes a ton of money, and a lot of that money comes from franchisees. If McDonalds had financial control over every store, then an attack on the corporate owner could be justified across the board.

ironstagg66
ironstagg66

I think I'd do it for 10 grand. I figure why not since I'd have 10 thousand smackers in my bank account AND a thorough digestive tract cleansing no matter how painful or explosive it might be.

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