Listen to the Mike Rosen-David Sirota smackdown

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Mike Rosen.

A blog yesterday teased a KOA/AM-760 simulcast of conservative host Mike Rosen and progressive yakker David Sirota debating Barack Obama's first 100 days as president -- and the program itself, broadcast earlier today, turned out to be diverting. Rather than an imbalanced back-and-forth of the sort that frequently takes place during the Dan Caplis-Craig Silverman show on KHOW (which Caplis tends to dominate), the exchange turned out to be quite evenhanded, with Sirota actually seeming to get under the skin of the usually unflappable Rosen at times. No doubt partisans on both sides will believe their guy won -- the mark of an entertaining and intriguing contest. With the exception of the cheeseball "Are you ready to RUMBLE?" introduction, I thought the pairing resulted in an hour of good radio, as well as an experiment worth repeating.

To listen to the program, click here. (Be patient: On my computer, it took about thirty seconds to load...)


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J. Scott Strawn
J. Scott Strawn

How ignorant is this leftist writer?  Mike Rosen "unflappable?"  What a crock!  Rosen goes off the handle all the time, that's what I wait for on a daily basis.  Just listen to an old show of Rosen going head-to-head with "Steve the Socialist."  Gees, what a bonehead comment.

amethystlady2
amethystlady2

Hahaha....boy, David, you certainly can get under a Righties skin...first time I've ever heard Mike Rosen stutter and stammer, and lose his cool, and he couldn't get rid of you in his usual rude, ignorant way.

I didn't get a chance to hear the 'debate' when it aired...thanks, Westword, for having it on your site...

Such sweet music to hear Rosen squirm...just like he makes his poor dumb callers feel...

amethystlady2
amethystlady2

Sedaris? Luke? I don't think you were listening to the right 'debate'?

Its David Sirota....maybe you were thinking of some national newscaster or something...Sedaris????? OR, maybe you were thinking of Sedaka????? Regardless, Rosen could never outdo David Sirota...

Luke
Luke

I think Rosen easily outclassed, and out smarted Sirota. Everytime David attempted to mislead the audience, Mike called him out on it.

Sedaris was full of snide remarks about conservatives and Republicans. To which, Mike didn't even acknowledge, as they were childish remarks. Dave also used Mike's personal financial problems as a premise to prove an argument that was false to begin with. It was a blatant ad hominin.

I agree that David got under Mike's skin, but understandably so. I think the exact moment was when Sedaris let loose an arrogant laugh in response to Mike's remark. Mike hates that shit.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Rosen and his pal Boyles use bullying and the hold button to win their arguments, then wind themselves up talking to themselves endlessly. When guys like that are put in a fair forum it's almost unfair, because that's not what they're used to.

I'm sure Rosen got back on his own show and assured his listeners that he'd cleaned that liberal/socialist's clock.

Eric L
Eric L

Rosen at his best is irritating, but he was just plain awful in this forum.

Others noted how open, unprepared, and unprotected Rosen is without "mr. hold button. But what struck me was how slow, clumsy, and outmanuevered Rosen seemed when Sirota counterpunched him on Rosen's standard false choice strawmen and red herring accusations.

Two that came to mind were the delicious browbeating that Sirota handed the washed up conservative about losing his retirement to the Madoff scandal and Sirota's brutal but accurate rebuttal to Rosen's ridiculous and childish parroting of the Jonah Goldberg kanard on how "the New Deal failed".

Rosen is allways too arrogant to stomach. When proven to be full of crap, he almost seems pitiful.

Rosen wasn't this weak 10 years ago. At one point, in his prime, he could have at least parried some of Sirota's punches. But age, laziness and hubris, coupled with coming to the "debate" unprepared and over confident, led to an embarrassing defeat for the mean spirited conservative water carrier.

ChrisD
ChrisD

I would say that Sirota mostly got under Rosen's skin b/c he was so emotive. I think Sirota won the overall point about more regulations to correct for some obvious gaps in the finance industry. However, when Mike Rosen told David he "clearly didn't understand" things about finance, it was mostly b/c that was true. Sirota won a lot of points, but he also freely threw around words like "corrupt," "hypocrite"...etc. IOW, Mike Rosen was the one who really carried the freight on making it a civil discussion and not just yelling, but it cost him the perception of "winning the argument" a lot of times. e.g. DS went right along with a caller who said the whole finance industry was a "bunch of Madoffs," which is ludicrous, while Mike had to reel it back into a temperate discussion at that point.

David H.
David H.

David Sirota outclassed Mike Rosen, consistently. It was a bit offputting when Sirota had to step on some of Rosen's responses. But it was clear why. Rosen was not representing himself historically accurately. Raising your voice and repeating "you clearly don't understand" is not how to win an argument. Rosen was indeed, cornered. I have listened to both, and archivally, Rosen made efforts to sidestep things.

One of those cases where, don't confuse me with the facts. As a prior poster said, Rosen didn't have the luxury of a hold button when he was losing an argument. Sirota maintained his position well, with facts and framing arguments. Well done.

Jimmy James Jr.
Jimmy James Jr.

I listened to the stream last night. Pretty good for AM radio, I have to admit. Rosen's smarty-pants seemed to get over shadowed by Sirota's smartier pants, which (as other have noted) got under Rosen's skin. Particular funny was when each defined the Glass Steagall Act, and Sirota rightly noted that Rosen defined it nearly identically to Sirota. Clearly it shows that Rosen develops his opinions, unencumbered by facts or his understanding of them.

Stella
Stella

Yeah, I would say Sirota totally out-classed Rosen. All Rosen could do was keep raising his voice and saying "you clearly don't understand", trying to paint Sirota as a know-nothing (which he clearly is not). This is a very poor debating tactic, and may work well when you're running the show, but not in a debate. Put down your opponent with facts, or illustrating how his statements or false, not such a immature putdown.

Robert Shaw
Robert Shaw

Of course Sirota got under Rosen's skin! Rosen didn't have the cowardly refuge of "Mr. Hold Button" to fall back on when he was losing an argument!

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