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SAFER's Mason Tvert thinks drug czar Gil Kerlikowske has some splainin' to do.
​The Obama administration's relaxed rules regarding enforcement of laws regarding medical marijuana has led to renewed optimism among weed advocates that across-the-boards legalization might be a more realistic possibility. But shortly thereafter, Office of National Drug Control Policy Director Gil Kerlikowske issued a statement referring to such a move a "non-starter."

Predictably, SAFER's Mason Tvert, who last week noted a poll showing more people than ever (if still a minority of the populace) would support legalization, isn't a fan of this viewpoint, and he's hoping the masses will let Kerlikowske know that the time has come for a change. In addition to writing an open letter to the drug czar, calling the earlier remarks "utterly irresponsible, he's launched an online petition asking him to "explain why he believes regulating marijuana and treating it like alcohol would result in 'social and health care costs' similar to those associated with the use of alcohol, a far more harmful recreational drug according to all objective evidence."

Look below to read Kerlikowske's views and Tvert's response -- and then decide about signing that petition.

Office of National Drug Control Policy Director Gil Kerlikowske's statement:

Marijuana Legalization; A Non-Starter

The Department of Justice earlier this week issued guidelines for Federal prosecutors regarding laws authorizing the use of marijuana for medical purposes. This prompted a flurry of news reports, analysis and commentary, some arguing that the guidelines could be read as the Federal government's tacit approval of "medical" marijuana. Advocates of marijuana legalization tried to cast the guidelines as a victory, portraying them as a step toward full legalization. Neither of these analyses is correct.

Marijuana legalization, for any purpose, remains a non-starter in the Obama Administration. It is not something that the President and I discuss; it isn't even on the agenda. Attorney General Holder issued very clear guidelines to U.S. Attorneys about the appropriate use of Federal resources. He did not open the door to legalization.

Regarding state ballot initiatives concerning "medical" marijuana, I believe that medical questions are best decided not by popular vote, but by science. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA), which studies and approves all medicines in the United States, has made very clear that the raw marijuana plant is not medicine, and any state considering medical marijuana should look very carefully at what has happened in California.

Legalization is being sold as being a cure to ending violence in Mexico, as a cure to state budget problems, as a cure to health problems. The American public should be skeptical of anyone selling one solution as a cure for every single problem. Legalized, regulated drugs are not a panacea -- pharmaceutical drugs in this country are tightly regulated and government controlled, yet we know they cause untold damage to those who abuse them.

To test the idea of legalizing and taxing marijuana, we only need to look at already legal drugs -- alcohol and tobacco. We know that the taxes collected on these substances pale in comparison to the social and health care costs related to their widespread use.

In a little over three months, my office will deliver to President Obama a National Drug Control Strategy that will strike a balance between public health and public safety, recognizing that reducing demand through a community-wide approach is critical to our success. Legalization would only thwart our efforts and increase the economic and social costs that result from greater drug acceptance and use.

Mason Tvert's response:

An Open Letter to the Drug Czar About Marijuana Legalization

On the afternoon of Friday, October 23, at a time when government bureaucrats make announcements they hope will not be picked up by the media, you issued a statement boldly declaring:

Marijuana legalization, for any purpose, remains a non-starter in the Obama Administration. It is not something that the President and I discuss; it isn't even on the agenda.

As the individual most directly responsible for marijuana policy in this country, this seems utterly irresponsible. Worse, your decision does not appear to be based on reason or evidence.

Let's begin with one glaringly obvious omission in your statement. You failed to cite a single societal or health-related harm caused by the use of marijuana. Not one! Instead, you offered up some weak guilt-by-association scare tactics.

To test the idea of legalizing and taxing marijuana, we only need to look at already legal drugs -- alcohol and tobacco. We know that the taxes collected on these substances pale in comparison to the social and health care costs related to their widespread use.

Apparently, you believe that marijuana users should be punished and perhaps even jailed because alcohol, tobacco and pharmaceutical drugs are so harmful to users and society.

Sorry, Mr. Kerlikowske, but that just doesn't cut it. If you are going to remain closed-minded in your approach to marijuana, you are going to need to step it up. Unfortunately, you know as well as we do that you don't have a whole lot going for you, which explains your flaccid, evidence-free statement.

Sadly, we have come to expect this kind of nonsensical garbage from our nation's drug czars. (After all, you have Kevin Sabet, a Bush Administration holdover and former speechwriter for his drug czar, John Walters, feeding you the same old lines.) But what makes your position on marijuana legalization even more shameful is your background as a law enforcement officer on the streets.

You know -- and maybe at some point during your tenure you will have the guts to admit -- that alcohol is really the drug in our society that causes the greatest amount of harm. This isn't an attempt to demonize alcohol, mind you; it's simply based on alcohol's close association with serious health problems and violent crime, as documented by scientific research and government statistics. The use of marijuana, on the other hand, does not have serious health consequences and is not associated with violent behavior.

Again, you know this from your time on the streets. If you've forgotten, just recall the alcohol-fueled Seattle Mardi Gras riot that occurred on your watch. Or ask you're predecessor, Gen. Barry McCaffrey, who called alcohol "the most dangerous drug in America today," during a 1999 ONDCP press conference.

So just why is it that you want to punish people who use marijuana, when you know the likely result is that many of these people will simply turn to using alcohol instead? Ya know, because it's "legal."

We don't want to hear that alcohol does not fall under the mission of ONDCP. You, sir, raised the subject by asserting -- contrary to everything known about the two substances -- that we should look at our experience with alcohol if we want to get a sense of the potential social and health care costs associated with more widespread marijuana use. Moreover, given that the two substances are so popular in our society, you simply cannot discuss the prohibition of marijuana without considering its impact on alcohol usage rates.

You hold a great deal of power in your hands. You can help determine whether we continue to steer adults toward using alcohol -- which you know produces serious societal harms -- or whether we instead allow them to make the rational choice to use a safer substance: marijuana.

Come on. Show us that it is possible to be the drug czar and be thoughtful, open-minded, and accepting of scientific evidence at the same time. Or, at the very least, why don't you find some actual statistics to back up your bluster?

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Comments (19)

JArJAr says:

This is just another c'zar which all advocates will be listed on a government mop-up. Medical Weed is a non-starter but "complete legalization" is a great-starter. If people are going to vote for legalization then it needs to be legal first or the greater population that smokes it will continue to be scared of the Government.

Posted On: Friday, Oct. 30 2009 @ 9:32AM
Cathy says:

In society today adults have to make millions of important decisions, a lot of which can have a drastic effect on their lives, even death. We are responsible for our choices, and we suffer and prosper from our choices, it’s what makes each individual who they ultimately become. This is called freedom of choice, ownership of ones self. We are legally allowed to make these choices everyday, including many that can be instantly fatal such as riding recreational dirt bikes for the thrill of it, even though it could cost us our lives, its our choice to make.

By trying to force people into not consuming a natural plant we are effectively causing more harm than if we were to let each adult make their own choices and except the consequences for those choices. The harm prohibition has brought to not just our own country, but the vast majority of the world is on a remarkably large scale, and threatens our national security. By choosing to prohibit this substance, we have chosen to ignore it and to let it be controlled by the black market. This in turn has enriched criminal enterprises to the point they have the financial power to compete with their own governments on a military bases as seen in Mexico. This is a national security threat. Marijuana is less harmful than alcohol, and the majority of citizens know this, this in turn creates disrespect for law enforcement thereby furthering the deterioration of our community as a whole. It is inhumane to lock a person in a cage and take away their belongings they worked for when they did nothing to harm any other individual or society. Current marijuana laws are a civil rights nightmare waiting to happen, and only makes marijuana readily available to anyone of any age. The laws are obviously bad, expensive and unyielding in accomplishments. We spend billions each year to try and stop marijuana consumption, and yet the DEA admits they would be surprised if they are even getting 1% of the drugs being transported. That’s a bad investment, and the majorities do not agree with it, and there is no justification for making marijuana illegal in the first place.

Prohibition is bad for our kids as they have complete access to it as long as its being controlled by the black market, what we need is control and regulation to minimize the exposure of drugs to young children. As long as it is illegal or decriminalized there will be a black market selling it at a marked up value because of risk, and all the harm will continue.

By legalizing marijuana we are effectively controlling its distribution, and can much better regulate its use by age limits.

Simply put, it’s a real no brainer and it will eventually happen, so if it’s not working now, and has the potential to be better why would we stay put?

Let’s not continue to turn regular tax paying citizens into tax burdens for the rest of us,
there comes a time when you have to realize a bad investment is a bad investment.

Please help us do the right thing, listen to the people of California who have bravely stood up for a positive change in our society, drugs may not bee good for us, but prohibition has proven far worse.

Posted On: Friday, Oct. 30 2009 @ 10:38AM
Fred Evil says:

Cathy, you took the words right out of my mouth.

With 26 MILLION Americans using cannabis in the last year, and only 3 million (already occupied) prison beds, where do they propose we put all of the 'criminals?'

They don't, they just expect us to continue funneling money into a FAILED 'War on drugs.' If you think it hasn't failed, you haven't been paying attention. Drugs are in EVERY state, and EVERY city. There is NOWHERE in the US, where you can NOT get drugs. That is the very definition of failure. We attempt to control drugs, we CAN NOT control drugs, at least not while they're distributed by the black market.

The black market will NEVER card your kid before selling them dope.

Allowing the industry (we cannot eradicate) to be controlled by a black market is utterly irresponsible.

Drugs may not be good for us, but the black market is FAR worse!

Posted On: Friday, Oct. 30 2009 @ 10:53AM
MrSusanLebowski says:

I really believe in the power of education, and I also believe that the criminalization of marijuana is destroying many medical and casual users' lives (many of them in high school), while also making real discussion and education on a popular societal level taboo.

Posted On: Friday, Oct. 30 2009 @ 10:53AM
rev.420 says:

Why is it 100'S TIMES LESS HARMFUL THAN ASPRIN, BUT TEN TIMES HARDER TO GET, Legalize it, maybe it will slow down interstate traffic!

Posted On: Friday, Oct. 30 2009 @ 11:57AM
TYC says:

Maybe it's time to make the powers that be explain exactly how prohibition is working to keep people from using cannabis...in the real world. I don't think you could get more people using cannabis if you made it mandatory. Everyone that wants can get it. So why is it still illegal? And the excuses for prohibition by those for it makes absolutely no sense at all.

It's illegal because it's bad.
Well, exactly how is it bad?

It was made illegal for a reason.
Other than racism or lining the pockets of the last of the robber/barons, exactly what is that reason? Still waiting for decades on that one.

If you make it legal everyone will use it.
What's stopping them now? I can hardly get gas at the corner convenience store without someone asking me if I want some cronic.

Oh, you know someone whose life went straight to .... because they smoked pot.
OK, I can do that too but it's almost 100% alcohol and tobacco.

And the list goes on and on.

It's time to end the failed policy of prohibition.

Posted On: Friday, Oct. 30 2009 @ 12:55PM
Dave K says:

Rather than to look to alcohol and tobacco as an indication of what would happen if marijuana were legalized why not examine what has happened in other countries with more relaxed attitudes toward marijuana or other drugs.

Craig Reinarman in an article written in 2000 gives an interesting analysis of what happened at the time Barry McCaffery (former drug czar) visited Holland, causing an international incident. The analysis is very worth reading to give perspective: http://www.cedro-uva.org/lib/reinarman.dutch.pdf

Holland has far lower drug usage rates despite (or perhaps as a result of) their relaxed drug policies. Portugal decriminalized all drugs early this century. They have shown improvements in lowered usage rates of all drugs and improvements in drug associated problems such as HIV transmission. They had double the people in voluntary treatment after five years than when drugs were treated as a legal problem. Public health; harm reduction programs work!

The drug warriors do not care how many families they destroy. They would prefer to see more addicts perhaps to guarantee that their positions will be needed. Heroin is now cheap enough that middle school students are becoming addicted. The drug war is a far worse fiasco than was Viet Nam. We have about 5% of the world’s population but 25% of the world’s prisoners, largely because of drugs and that’s fine with them.

The Drug Czar (anyone in that position) will continue to refuse to look at information from other countries where their drug policy works for the people and is successful. It really is as though if they come to believe that there is an alternative to long prison sentences for drug crimes that their entire cosmology would shatter. I hope that we and our few remaining civil liberties can survive their sincere attempts to do the right thing, for us.

Posted On: Friday, Oct. 30 2009 @ 1:07PM
Steven H Steiner says:

I thought pot smokers are suppose to be peace and loving people except when they are challenged... here are some other great traits of pot movement. click below its long 75 slides

http://www.brainshark.com/dammad/vu?pi=74294187

Posted On: Friday, Oct. 30 2009 @ 3:44PM
Eric Campbell says:

As long as our politicians are more concerned with advancing their bank accounts this will be a never-ending problem. High level officials, especially with the War on Drugs,are not going to change their views because it would mean a loss of their jobs. Instead of looking at the numerous benefits of legalizing marijuana, they will do what is best for them. With a lagging economy and troubles over the health-care situation it blows my mind that people can be this ignorant and greedy.

Posted On: Friday, Oct. 30 2009 @ 4:34PM
byrd says:

Keeping Marijuana illegal is what MAKES it a gateway drug. If casual weed smokers didn't have to find drug dealers to get a little pot, then they wouldn't have those drug dealers pushing harder drugs on them. LEGALIZE WEED FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN.

For more reads on this topic and more, check out:
http://byrdsview.blogspot.com/

Posted On: Friday, Oct. 30 2009 @ 5:17PM
Paul Richmond says:

Kerlikowske was known to file criminal charges on those who attempted to lobby him. This case took over a year of pro-bono work on my part to resolve.

http://www.seattleweekly.com/2003-09-10/news/peace-be-with-him


Posted On: Friday, Oct. 30 2009 @ 5:25PM
Rubblebeam says:

We just want the right to be ourselves, smart or dumb. If we don't hurt anyone then why is it so important for you non-pot smoking types to lock us up. 70,000 pot related arrests in California just last year. Ever hear of "don't tread on me" our founding fathers took that statement seriously, lock one of them up for using marijuana like Thomas Jefferson did, and anyone of them would have would challenged you to a duel and dropped your sorry ass. How's that for peace and loving?

Posted On: Friday, Oct. 30 2009 @ 6:16PM
kushboldt says:

Steven H. Steiner: Regardless of how hard you push to fight cannabis in New Hampshire, there is going to be cannabis in New Hampshire. Drug cannabis (sinsemilla) is the second most valuable cash crop in New Hampshire. Everything the government is doing only helps cannabis to catch up with hay as far as value.

We will overwhelm your ilk with our votes in the near future. When that time comes, marijuana will no longer be a valuable cash crop in New Hampshire, it will fall far below hay and apples.

Posted On: Friday, Oct. 30 2009 @ 7:33PM
Steven H Steiner says:

see I have been right all along its been never about medical marijuana its about all out legalization...

Posted On: Friday, Oct. 30 2009 @ 7:58PM
Rubblebeam says:

Steiner go congratulate yourself in front of some cancer patients, you top-notch moron.

Posted On: Friday, Oct. 30 2009 @ 9:17PM
newageblues says:

nice retort to the joker, rubblebeam.

Posted On: Friday, Oct. 30 2009 @ 10:19PM
Fresno says:

People who use cannabis should give to their communities if they want respect. Start organizing and helping your communities out in these tough times.

Organize a free senior car wash or something else but give freely and soon they will see you are not a contagious disease but an angel of grace.

Posted On: Saturday, Oct. 31 2009 @ 12:37AM
Steven H Steiner says:

Please stop using cancer patients and other sick and dying people... I put a Brainshark to prove the truth its long 75 slides watch the whole presentation you might find out we are not buying your BS


http://www.brainshark.com/dammad/vu?pi=74294187

Posted On: Saturday, Oct. 31 2009 @ 7:51AM
Chris says:

Ok, less debate more action. http://www.marijuanaontheballot.com

Dial the phone number. Get Marijuana On The Ballot. They People will decide

Posted On: Saturday, Oct. 31 2009 @ 1:49PM

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