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By Joe Tone, Wed., Feb. 3 2010 @ 3:29PM
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Categories: Follow That Story, Marijuana

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State Senator Chris Romer was not expecting to fly solo.
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State Senator Chris Romer (D-Buzz Kill Central) and Representative Tom Massey (R-Hiding in the Capitol Somewhere) teamed up today to introduce the latest attempt to reign in Colorado's medical marijuana industry, a bill the lawmakers say would protect patients' access to marijuana while forcing providers to be licensed by the state and to operate as nonprofits.

Actually, they didn't exactly team up: Massey -- the Republican who sponsored the House version of the bill, which will be introduced this afternoon -- showed up for the 1:30 p.m. press conference early, took a few questions and bailed right before things got interesting. Romer -- who said he barely had a chance to read through the final version of the bill -- then showed up, only to find himself standing alone to face the firing squad. Politics at their best.

The bill's not yet online, but you can read it in its entirety by clicking here. In the meantime, here are some highlights, according to Massey and Romer:

• Patients with medical marijuana cards would have to choose one of three weed-attaining methods: They could grow it themselves, work directly with a caregiver or buy from a licensed "center."

• A caregivers -- basically a dude with a card and a stash -- would be allowed to serve up to five customers, with little to no regulation of their practices, Romer said.

• Centers, however, would no longer have to employ caregivers, but would have to be licensed by the state, and would have to organize as nonprofits under state law.

• According to Romer, 90 percent of a center's inventory would have to be grown by the center itself or obtained by one affiliated, licensed grower. The other 10 percent could be bought from another licensed center. Independent growers could no longer sell to multiple centers.

• The bill would limit the amount of product per patient that a center could possess at any time to six plants or two ounces, and would limit the total amount of product owned by a center, a de facto way of limiting the number of patients a center could serve. (Romer wasn't sure on those numbers, but said he thought centers would be able to serve as many as 2,000-3,000 patients.)

• According to Massey, the bill would ban all on-site consumption at centers.

• The bill would prohibit doctors from having a financial relationship with a center, and would attempt to raise the standard used by doctors to prescribe marijuana. Doctors could still operate on site but could not be employed or compensated by the center.

• Cities would be free to ban centers locally.

• Should the bill pass as introduced, dispensaries would have eighteen months to transition into licensed "centers," and no new dispensaries could open under today's rules (whatever those are).

• And, most importantly to my pending raise request, the bill would place some limitations on how centers could advertise those services, both in media and on signage. He said something about making those ads "appropriate" and limiting the use of marijuana leafs, but I was already surfing Monster.com by then.

So! In other words, everyone's pissed! After Romer stopped fielding questions, the press conference devolved into a shouting match between Romer and activists, while Sensible Colorado's Brian Vicente sensibly relayed his concerns to the media. Chief among them: The banning of on-site consumption -- which he says could intimidate patients not familiar with using a vaporizing apparatus (read: people who can't work bongs) and patients who enjoy the sense of community.

Vicente also questioned the legality of cities being allowed to ban centers altogether. "If someone is sick in Aurora, they shouldn't have to get on a bus to get the medicine they need," he said. (Sensible Colorado is sponsoring a ballot measure that would fight this and other issues, as this blog reported earlier today.)

The bill will have its first public hearing Monday afternoon before the House judiciary committee, which will accept public comment, Massey said. There will not be beer or snacks.

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Comments (22)

kathismom says:

Crap. No beer or snacks? Could I bring some pottieparty mix?

I wrote state senator rollie health (no cap'd to show displeasure) a well written thought out email, he responded. "Bill passed, I voted for it." Hmmpf. Dude, I vote and my kids both vote too.

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 3 2010 @ 3:40PM
Robert Chase says:

Mr. Tone: I object to your trivializing tone ("people who can't work bongs", "There will not be beer or snacks"). I object even more to: "After Romer stopped fielding questions, the press conference devolved into a shouting match between Romer and activists ..." -- I was there; what you wrote simply isn't true. I did shout a question ("How can you justify the General Assembly's interference with Article XVIII, Section 14 of the Constitution?") during the press conference. Sen. Romer ignored me, but the press conference ended when Romer concluded, and no shouting precipitated its close or followed it. Did you leave early?

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 3 2010 @ 3:42PM
Mr. Tone says:

@Robert: I didn't leave early. I am familiar with your shouting -- it was done directly into my ear -- but I am referring to the shouting that happened after the press conference, wherein multiple activists shouted questions and objections at Romer.

Maybe you left early?

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 3 2010 @ 3:49PM
Robert Chase says:

The press conference did not devolve into shouting. I saw Sen. Romer engaged in conversations with several members of the medical marijuana community, but I noticed no shouting. I remained to speak to Brian and others. I was one of the last to leave. Your article conveys the misimpression that activists were disruptive -- that simply is not true.

Patients who object to Romer's first bill (SB109) should put on the badge I distributed and be in front of the Old Supreme Court Chambers by 1PM Thursday -- we want the members of the House Judiciary Committee to see that patients oppose the bill. The hearing is scheduled to begin at 1:30PM.

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 3 2010 @ 4:37PM
Anonymous says:

What about growers?!? The whole industry, from patient to dispensaries does not exist without growers. It's easier to sell it than grow , hence why so many dispensaries. Under this bill, we would be forced to go be an employee of a "center" and would never be able to own our own business. And we should be able to. The centers will only exploit growers as growers would have no other choice but to work at one. As I said it doesn't exist without growers, but lets protect wheeling dealing dispensary/middleman that charges $75 for an 1/8 when they pay a grower not even half that. It takes four months to grow a plant. In ten minutes the dispensary makes the same. Us growers have been around looooong before dispensaries, if where not protected, its hello Monsanto.

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 3 2010 @ 4:55PM
RANDY JAMES MARTINEZ says:

NOW,THIS WHOLE SO-CALLED REGULATIONS IS SUCH A CROCK OF BULLSH--!

The stupid legislators haven't got a damn clues as how this going to limit this whole fiasco of crap!

How in the hell are the doctors supposed to grow the sh-- if they are examining patients and running the cash register!

This is such a damn farce that it is their clever way of shutting down the damn "WILD WEST" and it serves
only the opponents of MMJ and law enforcement!!!

Don't make me go to the damn state house and get my crazy ass started because I get myself into trouble with what I want to say and that is:TO HELL WITH THESE REGULATIONS and THE POLITICIANS WHO WROTE THEM!!!
"RJM"

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 3 2010 @ 5:51PM
The Releaf Center says:

Nonprofit designation, but no tax relief? We're confused.

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 3 2010 @ 5:56PM
RANDY JAMES MARTINEZ says:

The Releaf Center,

As well you should be.They don't want anyone except themselves from making a profit! They don't care about the small business owner;they want to monopolize it to only a few certain kissas-es who are willing to accept this outlandish bill they are wizzing over our heads with all of the legal mumbo jumbo!

There will be a big fall-out when Brian Vicente gets enough signatures for his new initiative! Stay Tooned,it's going to get messes in the next few months! "RJM"

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 3 2010 @ 6:16PM
kevdog says:

I'm so sick of politicians and their belief that they have the inherent right to intrude into everybody's lives. Who gives them the right to control me and wreck small businesses? These politicians consistently cause more harm then good, they just need to go away......

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 3 2010 @ 7:35PM
Anonymous says:

So the Colorado legislators and LE think they can reverse votes and amendments with silly bills, and plans to shut down hundreds, maybe thousands of businesses, caregivers, and large grows? There is one important detail of this plan they are leaving out; Where is the money going to come from to arrest, jail, and prosecute all these people and businesses? Are they really going to do TWO prohibitions, one on recreational use and one on medical use? I'd say it is a bluff, and they know that whatever absurd bill they pass, with whatever crazy shit it has in it,(like letting the all the cities ban as they please, even after a judge ruled against that) would just be overturned or voted out by the voters in Colorado who clearly approve of this new industry as it stands now.

This just proves that we do not have a true democracy, and that whatever the hell we do have is a tainted, corrupt version of what democracy should or could be. F this totalitarian, "we know what is best for you" Bull SHHHHHt. In this type of democracy we cannot vote these people out, and their political power ensures tenure in office. Hell, Suthers doesn't even have a running mate for 2010, and so many people want him out.

I hate to be one to spout claims of revolution, but god damn, something has to give. We never seem to learn from history, but there are so many examples of failure that closely resemble our current path. Rome, French Insurrection of 1792, Aztecas. I just think people are tired of being F'ed over.

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 3 2010 @ 8:40PM
Samuel says:

One of the most disturbing aspects of this discussion is the recurrence of the "no on-site consumption" concept, which ONLY hurts the most vulnerable members of the MMJ Community: those reliant on public housing to keep a roof over their heads.

This includes many disabled veterans who either cannot operate a vaporizer or cannot afford one and subsequently must live in fear that a neighbor or police officer might smell the odor of their smoke. The medication lounges are the only places they may safely medicate!

Of course, there is no need at all to ban ALL consumption: simply carrying over the smoking ban from cigarettes to cannabis would take care of most of the lawmaker's concerns. There is absolutely no good reason why patients should not be allowed to vaporize and consume edibles in the presence of their caregiver!

Chris Romer knows all of this: he has heard it many times. This only proves once again that he never had patients' best interests at heart when he entered the process. He is willing to harm the weakest patients to look "tough on crime" for the voters: I find such behavior pathetic and inexcusable.

I love that Massey essentially handed Chris Romer a big bag of turds and walked away: that's good comedy. Romer knows he has tied his career to this issue and he is beginning to swallow some water instead of float -- he will flail about much more hysterically in the weeks to come before he finally sinks. My guess is that once the whole story is told Chris Romer will be remembered as an ineffectual, deceptive blowhard whose finest quality was a good tan.

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 3 2010 @ 8:48PM
Robert Chase says:

I agree, Samuel. Sen. Romer is intent on riding the imaginary backlash against medical marijuana; here is one person at least who believes what he reads in the Denver Post. Romer keeps referring to supposed bad actors who have to go -- without specifying what he finds objectionable, or why some legitimate businesses should close. He must have likened the present situation of dispensaries opening and doing business in compliance with local laws to the "Wild West" half-a-dozen times -- he is sure that dispensaries have been linkied to violent crime in the public's mind (despite a dearth of evidence that they are robbed more often than banks, pharmacies, or liquor stores), and he is determined to capitalize on a handful of suburban housewives' adopted fears without regard for the facts, the Constitution, or the welfare of patients. I hope that all voters will call their legislators and tell them not to waste any more time obsessing about medical marijuana -- Colorado has a $1,500,000,000 budget shortfall but the General Assembly is taking the time to consider bills which would drive up the cost of care for medical marijuana patients and close businesses which pay sales and property taxes, employ many, and provide medicine to patients. Colorado General Assembly, keep your grubby hands off of medical marijuana!

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 3 2010 @ 10:06PM
Jerome Garcia says:

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JeromeJGarcia wrote:
I just finished my first reading of the bill. I am VERY disappointed. It is completely full of "should not's", very restrictive, and DOES NOT address patients needs. I am calling the bill "Reefer Madness 2010"

Some of the crazy restrictions in it are:
5 person limit for caregivers (except in EXCEPTIONAL situtation )
If you have a prim. caregiver (dispensary) you CAN NOT grow your own cannabis
- CAN NOT use cannabis depiction is signage.
- State will judge if you have "good moral character" if u try to open a dispensary
- EXCESSIVE, and very long, in time, regulations for even obtaining a permit for dispensary.
- State can limit # of dispensaries
- Public hearing stakeholders that can cross examine are, cops, business owners, and Housing Associations members (WHERE ARE THE DISABILITY RIGHTS ADVOCATES???)

The biggest thing that I noticed that is missing from the bill is patients rights. They simple are not there. Shame on the crafter's of this bill for not including any rights for the people Amendment 20 was meant to help. SHAME. SHAME. SHAME!

The bill is filled with a lot more bad regulations. Read it for yourself. And I am sure you will agree that this Bill is bad, and needs to be completely thrown out!

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 3 2010 @ 10:46PM
ast says:

At lease it's more middle of the road than his last bill that banned dispensaries all together. Kind of funny though seems like it was Massey's idea. The bill needs to be tweaked once more to allow greater governmental transparency.

The bill is good news for me though, I'm a not-for-profit accountant. WOOO EMPLOYMENT.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 4 2010 @ 9:12AM
Courtney says:

Yeah it's seriously pathetic that nobody is running against Suthers. In a healthy and robust democracy we'd have several people running for every available position in every election.

AST you're observation that Massey seems to the left of Romer was mine as well. I know, a real shocker that the demorats these days are to the right of the republicans. /sarcasm

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 4 2010 @ 9:38AM
SoCoMMJ says:

Oh and by the way...looking at the IRS rules, it may be impossible to set up a legal non-profit. This is the second angle (in addition to the DR.'s DEA license requirement) that will kill ALL medical marijuana in CO.
Read the last 501( c)(3) requirement....

Operated – Because a substantial portion of an organization’s activities must further its exempt purpose(s), certain other activities are prohibited or restricted including, but not limited to, the following activities. A 501( c)(3) organization:

· Must absolutely refrain from participating in the political campaigns of candidates for local, state, or federal office.

· Must restrict its lobbying activities to an insubstantial part of its total activities.

· Must ensure that its earnings do not inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual.

· Must not operate for the benefit of private interests such as those of its founder, the founder’s family, its shareholders or persons controlled by such interests.

· Must not operate for the primary purpose of conducting a trade or business that is not related to its exempt purpose, such as a school’s operation of a factory.

===> May not have purposes or activities that are illegal or violate fundamental public policy.

Marijuana in any fashion is illegal at the federal level and the non profit status will not be granted unless you lie on your application.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 4 2010 @ 1:49PM
Chad says:

SoCoMMJ says:
===> May not have purposes or activities that are illegal or violate fundamental public policy. Marijuana in any fashion is illegal at the federal level and the non profit status will not be granted unless you lie on your application.

So my question is how can we at a state level possibly come this far in a bills creation without addressing this EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FLAW? I don't see the fed bending to allow this bill to work. More wasted peoples' time and tax dollars.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 4 2010 @ 3:47PM
Courtney says:

Someone brought up the non-profit conflict to Romer at the press conference. I believe his response (as it was to most questions) was "I don't know, I just got the bill 2 hours ago."

Man, Massey totally fucked him on that press conference. That's some funny shit.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 4 2010 @ 5:54PM
Samuel says:

Oh, Lord, I think I finally get it....Medical Marijuana is a Republican plot to take over the state government! They know that Democrats like Romer just can't help themselves, they MUST create meaningless regulations and bureaucratic red-tape: IT'S WHAT DEMOCRATS DO BEST. This whole thing is actually a plot by CO-GOP strategery-dude Dick Wadhams to get Romer voted out of office. I'll bet you they panicked when they saw Romer retract his hideous monstrosity of a bill after Rob Corry wiped the floor with him; Massey's "co-authored" proposal is designed purely to keep Chris Romer looking like a clown! How long will it be before Massey bails completely and leaves Romer (once again) holding the electoral turd-bag?

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 4 2010 @ 8:23PM
Barbara says:

Our representatives must know something they are not sharing with the citizens.

I believe that the Colorado House and Senate know they can vote for SB 109 to show they are tough on drugs because SB 109 will be overturned. Our own legislators are wasting our time and money. Here is a great example of the inaccurate perceptions given from our legislation to our legislation: A caregivers -- basically a dude with a card and a stash -- would be allowed to serve up to five customers, with little to no regulation of their practices, Romer said.

Mr. Romer is not impartial. Mr. Romer, a background check for caregivers is not little to no regulation. Colorado legislators are discriminating against patients and caregivers.

Colorado voters agreed to MMJ and the State is preventing patient access based on a belief that somebody is taking advantage.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 10:54AM
Native says:

@Samuel

You are spot on with your astute political vision - I had the exact same thought reading the article.

Colorado politics will be more interesting in 2010 than Bronco football.

As far as I'm concerned, Romer & McDaniels should pow-wow and then get the hell out of town.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 8:00PM
Robert White says:

These are the groups endorsing Massey on this. There are some very interesting groups indeed, including the pharmacies and the Medical Society

The Pueblo Chieftain
The Mountain Mail
The Denver Post
Wet Mountain Tribune
Colorado Association of Commerce and Industry
National Federation of Independent Business
Colorado Association of School Executives
Colorado Ski Country USA
Colorado Education Association
Colorado Medical Society
RX Plus Independent Pharmacies
Rural Electric Cooperatives
Colorado Financial Services Association
Colorado Credit Union Association
Colorado Concern
Colorado Association of Realtors
Colorado Association of Dentists
Aquila Inc.
Colorado Bankers Association
Colorado Cable Telecommunication Association
Colorado Association of Distributors
Apartment Association of Denver
Enterprise Rent A Car
Colorado Mortgage Lenders Association
Colorado Committee of Automotive Retailers
Colorado Telecommunications Association
Colorado Homebuilders Association
Colorado Automobile Dealers Association
NAIOP
COPIC
Colorado Restaurant Association
Black Hills Corporation
Colorado Society of Certified Public Accountants
Bill Barrett Corporation
Colorado Chiropractic Association
Colorado Physicians for Mental Health
Colorado Livestock Association
Association of Collection Agencies of Colorado
American Insurance Association
Chaffee County Board of Realtors
American Council of Engineering Companies of Colorado
Associated General Contractors of Colorado
Associated Builders and Contractors – Rocky Mountain Chapter
Holcim
Colorado Hospital Association
Colorado Cattlemen?s Association
Beer Distributors of Colorado
Claflin Eye Care

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 11 2010 @ 5:57AM

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