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Reader's Tom Tancredo-Gustavo Arellano debate take our longest Comment of the Day yet!

Tom Tancredo.
As my wife loves to tell me at awkward moments, size matters.

By that standard, the following note from our "Knee-jerk reactions to the debate between Tom Tancredo and 'Ask a Mexican' Gustavo Arellano" post is impressive indeed. Check out the note that prompted it, and the loquacious reaction.

Ed Robinson Olvera wrote:

Good point, Nathan, about Tancredo's confused position on "cutting allegiance". When people came from Europe in the 1800's, it was like traveling to another planet; people did not expect to ever return. Mexico and Central America is different in that today in the 21st Century it's comparatively easy to go back and forth and maintain family and cultural connections. So, of course, the cultural "allegiance" thing is very different today, and one can say it is even "weaker". Tancredo is longing for a return to a simplistic, naive, "wrap yourself in the flag" "loyalty". We can't go back to 'Leave It to Beaver' days.

"Allegiance" goes the other direction, too. There's an increasing trend of ex-pat Americans. Over one million Americans live full-time in Mexico alone! And that's not just retired folks.

Today's immigrants, legal or not, come here for economic reasons and/or to reunite with family.

Bottom line: Latinos have more than proved themselves to this country. They have a higher percentage of battlefield casualties and Medal of Honor winners, etc. Most are law-abiding, tax paying, contributing. The criminals (and blacks) you see in the news are the exception.

Frets Ward countered like so:

No, typical soundbite speak from a racist Latino. You will feign you don't get it. You haven't seen bombardment yet. Any American could opine enough to fill a novel about the malady that is Mexico, and its people. Complex problem my ass. It's illegal versus legal, right versus wrong, respect versus disrespect -- you do not get to decide because they come from where you do.

And you have the temerity to call me biased? I would rather die a conservative anyday than a parasite.

How about Mexico dealing with it? Why do Americans have to pick up the tab?
No, it serves the Hispanic/Latino interest. Believe me, you're not one of us.

Speaking of historical facts, over 600,000 men and women gave their lives toward the birth and defense of the United States of America. From coast-to-coast and border-to-border the overwhelming majority of our population loves this country, its Constitution, its freedoms, and its beautiful flag. There are, however, tens of millions of illegal aliens here in the U.S. who have no love or regard for America.

They hate the U.S. government, the country, and the American people. These people have invaded our country. Its not enough that the US allowed industry to codify and build in Mexico. We have to deal with a non-stop population larger than that of Tallahassee, FL coming across the border monthly - people who have discarded nearly 300 million tons of trash and humen waste in our national border parks on their way in; people who demand I speak their language; people who are stealing American IDs and Social Security numbers; people who are bankrupting state budgets and taxpayers; people who are turning entire cities and neighborhoods into Tijuana's, where half the store signs advertise llanteras usadas; people who are killing American citizens at the rate of 39 per day through murder, drunk driving, etc; people who expect and demand their kids to be taught in Spanish, and don't care what we Americans think (it continues with in-state tuition); people who drive without licenses, or insurance, or set enough aside to cover their liabilities; people who use our expensive hospital system and emergency rooms as their cold and sniffle clinics.

Your charge of my volume is the classic hypothetical syllogism. Like that K.D. Lang song: "Constant Conniving?"

While millions of illegal aliens from Mexican are invading our country, the Mexican military, and the Mexican Federal Police are assisting by diversionary activity. There has been a series of incidents where the Mexican military or Federal Police invaded U.S. territory and fired on Border Patrol officers.

What's behind this massive, unopposed invasion of tens of millions of illegal aliens into the country? The Mexican government, the National Council of La Raza, MEChA, LULAC, the Catholic Church, treasonous congressmen illegally elected to office, and anchor babies loyal to the Mexican reconquista agenda are efficacious in this onslaught for dominant status.

The constitution of the parasites.

The conquest of Aztlan.

All one has to do is browse the California's School District's Chicano Studies textbook, "The Mexican American Heritage." On page 84 there it shows a redrawn map of Mexico and the U.S., showing Mexico with most of the territory, all of it taken back from the America (without a receipt).

On page 107, it says "Latinos are now realizing that the power to control Aztlan may once again be in their hands."

The majority of illegal aliens are going to the mostly sanctuary Southwest states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Texas, Utah and Nevada. Mexicans call the seven states Aztlan, which is the territory ceded to the US by the Republic of Mexico as part of the Treaty of Guadeloupe Hidalgo of 1848, after the U.S./Mexican War.

The overall plan, however, is to create a massive Mexican population in the U.S. and achieve total Mexican voting superiority, answerable only to Mexico City, and their racist agenda. Today, nearly 9 million Mexicans (legal and illegal) are registered to vote in the U.S., 10 million Mexican anchor babies are approaching voting age, and an additional 20+ million illegal aliens are awaiting scam - amnesty 2.0 so that they too can seek revenge.

The big question is how many of those who are, or will, register to vote American citizens? To register to vote one must be a citizen of the United States. There in lies the conundrum.

Now Mexico is using massive illegal immigration to control American politics and policies and eventually control the entire U.S. They plan on winning at the ballot box - legally and illegally - without firing a shot. Children fraudulently born in the U.S. to illegal aliens and guest workers are U.S. citizens and can vote when they turn 18.

Former Housing and Urban Development Secretary, Henry Cisneros -- (a Bill Clinton appointee) -- said before a Hispanic audience: "As goes the Latino population will go the state of California, and as goes the state of California will go the United States of America. My friends, the stakes are big. This a fight worth making."

Be careful what you wish for...

The former president of Mexico, Ernesto Zedillo, went before a group of illegals in Chicago and said, "I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders, and that Mexican migrants are an important, a very important part of it."

The United States of America is a nation governed by laws, and no one is supposed to be above the law. Apparently this does not include the governing bodies in many cities, counties, and states -- who have taken an oath to uphold the laws and Constitution of the U.S. -- who are
showing favoritism toward criminals at large by giving aid and comfort, at taxpayers expense, to the flood of Mexicans who have crossed our border illegally.

No country can be great if its citizens are taught to look the other way while others wipe their feet on its laws and mock its national sovereignty.

The time has come to question the patriotism of the politicians and media who refuse to tell the American people the truth, and what is happening on the border, and why it is happening -- which is a threat to our national security and our national interest.

Mexicans who have entered the U.S. illegally have violated Federal law.

They are criminals. It makes no difference if they smile.

Pro-illegal alien activists and groups in the U.S. are Anti-American.

The arrogant in-your-face attitude regarding the eventual takeover of Republic del Norte (Aztlan) will come to an end soon.

Millions upon millions of angry American men waiting for the bell to ring will make certain we remain the United States of America.

We will not lose our country to La Raza...

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