Medical marijuana license application process begins tomorrow: How does it work?

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Warren Edson.
In March, the Department of Revenue's Medical Marijuana Enforcement Division published its final rules. Now, one important requirement is about to be made flesh. Beginning tomorrow, employees can begin applying for licenses to work at MMJ centers and other businesses (see the forms below). And while some advocates see the process as onerous, attorney Warren Edson believes it's not as bad as it could have been.

Edson points to the application fees, which can be paid by cash or check (no credit cards) beginning at 9 a.m. Thursday at the Medical Marijuana Office, 6200 Dahlia Street in Commerce City. Individuals deemed support employees (a salaried worker who doesn't receive a percentage of gross or net profits) must pay $75, while key employees (managers, supervisors or lead staffers) must fork over $250. And while that's a considerable amount of coin, it's actually better or equal to equivalent fees for casino workers. The key license fee in that industry is also $250, but the support employee charge is $100 -- meaning, says Edson, that "it's cheaper for weed."

Granted, there are some intrusive aspects to the forms. Key employees are asked to provide two years of tax returns, Edson notes, while support employees "need to sign a waiver that says MMED can get them from the IRS."

For providing this and other information, Edson continues, employees will receive "the magic white badge they're going to need to get into the limited access room -- and it needs to be prominently displayed." And applicants, who must pass muster by July 1, when regs go into effect, shouldn't have to wait for weeks to receive this accoutrement: "It's going to be boring and ugly and a pain in the ass -- but I'm told that if you get in line Thursday and bring everything they tell you to bring, you'll leave there in one to four hours with one of these pretty badges."

See the key and support license applications below.

Colorado Medical Marijuana Key Employee Form
Colorado Medical Marijuana Support Employee Form
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34 comments
mnetters
mnetters

It's fun reading all the old post from 2 years ago

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

The tax man has never been trusted since Jesus Christ walked the earth.  

hungbudtender
hungbudtender

Hopefully now dispensary owners and MIPs will respect their support employees with a well deserved salary raise.  As an industry employee I have always been willing to work for less than I was worth because I love the industry.  Now because it's becoming less desirable to stay in this industry; considering the instability, I am considering leaving the industry.  If more follow it won't be so easy to post a job on craigslist and have 200 applicants.      

Jake Browne
Jake Browne

I'll be filling out the forms and, for the record, I'm not afraid. I don't see many people inside the industry concerned, either. I appreciate that some advocates are worried for me, but please don't be. :)

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

Jake, I'm sorry to hear it. I don't remember the headlines "WE WON the Drug War" or the "FEDS didn't really mean their threats 2 weeks ago..."

Also, remember, when your mmj job over, which could come at the whim of a politican, and you need a new way to pay your bills, your future back ground checks will all contain your mmj conection.

The DOR and the general assembly destroyed the compassionate caregiver and patient model.  Consider the the industry will dissolve (as predicted by Sen Romer promise to close 80%) when the patients stop renewing their registry cards, making them 'illegal' MMC customers, after they are educated to the fact that they 'forfeit' their constitutional rights to access mmj confidentially.

As I called MMC's to try to find help fund the patient, caregiver and physician lawsuit, many told me they have already noticed a decline in registry renewals over the last 3 months. 

Jake Browne
Jake Browne

Fair enough. In my case, the cat is out of the bag. A simple Google search will tell plenty about my involvement with cannabis. I'm not ashamed of my job, nor do I wish to hide it.

We all knew what we signed up for. The federal specter has loomed since 2009, when I started working in the MMJ industry. I suspect it will linger for a while. 

Robert
Robert

The specter can either be looming or lingering, but not both.  The Obama Administration has abandoned patients to the whims of the USDOI.  Read the Haag Memo (http://www.cannabistherapyinst..., please -- the specter is looming.

Concerned Patient
Concerned Patient

Powerful image - dispensaries saw it in Washington and Montana recently firsthand. Hope you don't.

Tell us about your fights for patient rights - others may want to join in.

Jake Browne
Jake Browne

I don't think that's how it works at all. It's a powerful mental image, a bunch of Republicans lining up the thousands of people that work in medical marijuana related businesses across the country and putting them in federal prisons. Powerful, but highly unlikely. 

If you're concerned about being licensed as an MMC employee, you do have a plethora of options in other fields. I won't be lectured by you about fighting for anyone's rights, though.

Concerned Caregiver
Concerned Caregiver

Good for you, Jake, but sad for employees (patients) who will have their Pot Police Badge of Honor on file with the feds. Should the Republicans get back in the White House, I hope they can flash that badge and just walk out of federal prison. Does it work like that?

If MMCs don't start fighting for their patient and employee rights soon, they won't have either. Stop selling out and bending over -- it looks disgusting.

death2dea
death2dea

 i hope the Medical Marijuana Office is prepared to get the box of fresh horse shit i just sent them. everyone do the same

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

 sending feces through the mail has been done and has been deemed illegal. 

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

"attorney Warren Edson believes it's not as bad as it could have been." 

So, Warren will the employee applications be open record?   Potential employee's, you've been thrown to the wild boars.

After reading the applications, I'm not sure what could make this worse? 

Your $10/hr job to data collect info from patients who have not been educated to their constitutional rights and their 'voluntary' loss of them as they walk through an MMC door, that can and will be turned over to all law enforcement including the feds and can be used against you and patients in a court of law, that your signing away all your personal info to obtain,

Whats worse?  Public stoning?  This Orwellian over regulation is a mockery of the human brain.

No one will forget your disregard for mmj employee's (sometimes caregivers and patients) here, Warren.  But I guess if you have a relation who is part of the MMC shakedown, you have to overlook moral ethics and try to comply. 

Bend over potential employee's, it's not so bad, your boss did it.  Because this application is a condensed version of the owner application.  Instead of 3 or 4 separate pages of releases, they condensed it into 3 large paragraphs that basically release ALL the same access to ALL info to ALL agencies, with release of harm to ALL 'investigative agencies' if it goes public, including foreign countries.  And looks like you don't need to bring print outs of your bank statements--they will just access them if 'necessary'.   JHC.

Is this acceptable for a $10/hr job ( "privilege", "public service"--as the application says) that requires HARMING patients via collecting data and then turning it over to law enforcement, so your boss can stay in business and Colorado can 'claim' it has "legitimized" mmj?

Employee's need to study ALL aspects of remaining an employee for what they really are.  They need to read Article 18 section 14 of the CO Constitution, hb1284, hb1043 and the DoR rules to really understand the realities of their 'job'.  Are you selling out yourselves and patients by applying?  Is this acceptable to you in your gut?

Robert
Robert

Thanks for your comments, Be Afraid!, Colorado Mmj Patient, and Do you feel safe?; this is not a time to understate the case!Romer & Co's foolish replacement of our constitutional model of caregiving with his "robust regulatory model" is now up against reality of the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 and the stated determination of the United States Department of Injustice (USDOI) to enforce it.There have been two schools of thought within the Colorado General Assembly of Snitches (CGAS):  1) the airy-fairy Democratic one, in which legislators liberally misinterpreted the import of the Ogden Memorandum to somehow mean that they could license and profit from Federal felonies and get away with it, and 2) the Prohibitionist one, which consoled itself that Colorado's scheme invites Federal interference; the CGAS has very deliberately exposed every person involved with medical cannabis it can to Federal criminal liability.

Unsustainable
Unsustainable

You hippies need to go back to the days when you didn't "believe" in computers.  And the thug/former felons can screw off for all any of us care.  Your rants and raves on Westword's blogs are annoying and pathetic.

The world isn't coming to an end (unless you believe in the rapture on May 21st), and this is no different than the licensing involved for any regulated industry like Gambling/Casinos, Plumbers, Electricians, Real Estate, Wall Street Brokers, etc... hell, even Interior Decorators are now having to get licensed and regulated.

If there weren't so many douche bags out there taking advantage of and harming others, these various industries wouldn't need regulation.  Unfortunately, considering the attitudes of most that will comment on this article, that is never going to be the case for MMJ.

Say what you want, and attack the MMED all you want, but the truth is that there are PLENTY of MMJ biz owners that have no regard for the safety or mutual interests of others.  They are only out there to make a buck while they can --- until they are caught and rightfully closed down or prosecuted.  You can see this in the grows and dispensaries that are undercutting everyone, and you can see this in the edible companies that are putting out cheap crap at unsustainable prices.  UNSUSTAINABLE, because they don't plan on sustaining a business.

It's time to grow up, go back to school, whatever... just do something productive.  Anything other than bitch online about how bad you have it, when anyone who is really making headway in business could care less.

Anonymous
Anonymous

It is telling that Robert admits no one has given him any money for his Colorado Coalition of Patients and Caregivers (sic?).

A coalition of one... is that even possible? So who are you speaking for Robert if no one is supporting you? Don't answer. These are rhetorical questions.

Robert
Robert

Anonymous Nit:

I can't overcome Prohibition by myself; in that sense my advocacy has not been effective, but many people agree with me (try reading the comments here for a start), and patients and other advocates thank me for my work.  I represent a majority of the patients and caregivers who understand the political and legal reality of Prohibition in Colorado -- your lies will not alter that.  You are just an ignorant, anonymous detractor.  As such, you are not engaging in open discussion here, and readers should suspect your motives.

I am not seeking an audience with Romer or Hancock -- they owe the People of Denver answers about their policies on cannabis.  That they have not answered has nothing to do with my (lack of a) personal relationship with them, and everything to do with the complete failure of the cannabis-community to put one and one together politically -- the candidates have both demonstrated their antipathy towards cannabis, and the electoral results have emboldened them to believe that they can ignore the issue entirely.  You betray the subservient attitude so characteristic of the CMMR/MMIG/Delusional Legitimists, which has perverted Colorado's constitutional caregiver-patient relationship into an Orwellian interaction with the State -- only complete idiots can claim that telling the DEA who grows cannabis where (after the USDOI has said that they are going to enforce the Controlled Substances Act) is an improvement over caregivers providing cannabis to their patients without State involvement, but that is the position of many who own MMCs.

We cannot beg our enemies to make concessions and expect to make any headway, and I am proud to have named and fought our enemies instead of kowtowing to them.  The grassroots of this movement (of whom I count myself in the vanguard) have the facts on our side; you have nothing except happy talk about people who hate cannabis conferring legitimacy on it (just because they're willing to tax it) and ad hominem attacks.  You represent the profiteers and you know that patients are on our side; all you have left are anonymous lies.

Robert
Robert

Anonymous Nit:

The Colorado Coalition for Patients and Caregivers includes everyone who agrees with me that rights of those whose doctors have recommended their use of cannabis and their caregivers must be defended against the depredations of all the many officials in Colorado violating their oaths of office by failing to uphold our Constitution.

I have been an informed and effective advocate for patients and caregivers for the past three years.

Contributions may be sent to copatientsandcaregivers@gmail.com

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

Anonymous--It sure wold be nice for you to identify yourself. 

That way we would all know who believes Robert Case has the ability to turn people away from mmj advocacy. 

You also tell Robert he is ineffective and then say he has a hand in on "destroying mmj in Colorado"  Sounds like you should do well working with crazy people. 

Robert Case has NO HAND in destroying mmj in CO. 

Haven't you been following---The General Assembly, law enforcement, drug rehab and the MMC industry lobbyists ARE 100% responsible for "destroying CO mmj". 

Patient's, caregivers and Robert Case can't get any credit. 

Anonymous
Anonymous

@Robert, So.... let me get this straight. You are trying to claim your membership is "everyone who agrees with me". Have these people ever said as such, or signed-up anywhere, besides in your head? Simply put, you are acting like a fraud when you claim that you are representative of the community. You are not. In reality, you represent you, and you alone.

And I''d have to greatly disagree that you have been an effective advocate. In fact, I can not think of one positive thing you have accomplished. Can you? Sure, you've got a lot of press, such as assaulting government officials with your attitude, or generally calling anyone who disagrees with you a name - and then unleashing a crazy, long winded, and hubrisitc diatribe in response to them. More recently, you wrote a letter to the Mayoral candidates which has no chance of being responded to because of your PAST interactions with both candidates. Surely, Hancock will not talk to you because he remembers you and your uncivil antics in the City of Denver's City council chambers. Romer also remembers you from your yelling and screaming at him last year at the Capital.

In reality, Robert, you are turning a lot of people away from the mmj advocacy movement. Who wants to hang around crazy people? Who wants to hang around ineffective people? Only crazy and ineffective people.

Do Colorado mmj patients a favor. Get a real job, got back to school, whatever - just quit destroying mmj in Colorado.

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

 "no different than the licensing involved for any regulated industry like Gambling/Casinos, Plumbers, Electricians, Real Estate, Wall Street Brokers"

The HUGE difference is that you do not have a constitutional RIGHT spelled out in the constitution to access or provide: alcohol, tobacco, gambling/casino's, plumbers electricians, real estate, real estate or wall street. 

Funny
Funny

"no different than the licensing involved for any regulated industry like Gambling/Casinos, Plumbers, Electricians, Real Estate, Wall Street Brokers"DUH - Except it's illegal under FEDERAL LAW!

Think it's you that needs to back to school...

Robert
Robert

You people are so determinedly ignorant that there is no way to educate you.  All the greedhead-morons within the "industry" who can't keep from piping up in favor of the bargain they struck with Satan last year may get a Federal comeuppance all too soon, and patients should be concerned for their access if not for the confidentiality of their purchases of medicine.

Unsustainable
Unsustainable

"Greedhead-morons... [striking a deal] with Satan"?  Really?  ha ha haYou sound like a Republican.  Yes, that was an insult.

For someone who feels he's so educated, you sure do sound identical to the uneducated fear mongering conservatives in this country...  "Be Afraid!"  "Do you feel safe?"  Oh, I'm terrified!

HA HA  ...and the "Colorado General Assembly of Snitches"?  Oh look, you even gave them an acronym (CGAS)... so clever!  Whaaa ha ha!  Sadly, it's already been done!  Tell me, are you studying directly from some GOP handbook of political failures?  Conservatives love to make up names like "Obamacare", to demonize something they hardly understand and have no logical arguments against.

Get a grip Robert.  Quit embarrassing yourself.

Robert
Robert

People who can't deal with the facts must resort to nebulous group-think, but I am hardly responsible for all your political misconceptions -- "you sound like a Republican", indeed!Neither major party represent the interests of the People of Colorado, but as a lifelong Democrat myself, the betrayal of patients and caregivers by the Democratic Party of Denver and of Colorado strikes me as particularly stupid and unacceptable.

Sign me up - NOT!
Sign me up - NOT!

Any attorney that advises a client to fill out this formshould be disbarred. This violates your FIFTH AMENMDMENT right againstself-incrimination. Marijuana is illegal under federal law. This application isyour confession that you are conspiring to violate federal law!!! DO NOT SUBMITIT!

 

Here are a couple of good ones from the "InvestigationAuthorization" form:

 

"I authorize the release of this type of information,even though this record may be designated as confidential or nonpublic underthe provisions of state or federal laws."

 

"Any information contained within my application,contained within any financial or personnel record, or otherwise found,obtained, or maintained by the Investigatory Agencies, shall be accessible tolaw enforcement agents of this or any other state, the government of the UnitedStates, or any foreign country."

 

Is your $10/hour dispensary job worth it? Tell your employerand the DOR to STUFF IT!

Do you feel safe?
Do you feel safe?

Dan Hartmann says the fingerprints will be sent directly to CBI and FBI. DEA will also have access to these records.

Colorado Mmj Patient
Colorado Mmj Patient

I would not want to be on a silver platter if and when the DEA or Administration changes its mind on medical marijuana.  They are asking for way too much information.  

Be Afraid!
Be Afraid!

Employees are just plain DUMB if they go to the MMED and fill out one of these FEDERAL CONFESSION FORMS. Wake up, MMC Employees! DO NOT FILL OUT THIS FORM!

You are getting paid $10 for a job that could land you a 5 Year Mandatory Minimum in Federal Prison. Is your MMC going to pay your legal fees when you get busted? Can you save $50,000 for bail and $50,000 for legal fees when the FEDS raid your dispensary?

Fingerprints, photographed - this is pre-booking your for ARREST. Don't fall for it!

Corey Donahue
Corey Donahue

Warren Edson is a blight on the people of Colorado and should be run out of this state. He is helping destroy this constitutional right in Colorado.  Warren Edson is the Benedict Arnold of this movement and sees nothing wrong with that.  Do not register or re-register because just as the original Marijuana tax act you will see the licenses decrease until there are none.  "Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past." Here is a facebook conversation with Warren.  

Warren whydid you help Dar Hartman run away from the music at the Cannabis Cup?

Warren Edson Because it was embarrassing. Do you really thinkyou can convince someone to change their viewpoint by yelling and screaming atthem?

CharlesGleason I was redressing my grievances to my government by readingthe constitution, his rules and the one of many Supreme Court rulings thatreaffirm our 4th amendment rights to privacy and make his rulesunconstitutional which one of those embarrasses you?

CharlesGleason oh..yeah, I forgot Dan Hartman and the Medical MarijuanaEnforcement Division are a creation of an unconstitutional bill making them aviolation of our constitutional rights and every day MMED and Dan Hartman arearound is another day the state of Colorado violates the constitutional rights ofthe people of Colorado. But your a lawyer Warren, you should know that.

Concerned
Concerned

These special interests have got to go. this is ridiculous, pay to work?? this is how we stimulate economy and create jobs. Vette everyone in a quasi-legal vice industry, make them pay to work, great idea old boys. you have really out-shined yourselves on this one.  Oh, its just like that other vice gambling, except that this product has enormous potential for food, fuel, fiber, and medicine, in a country that is poisoning itself to the gills with waste from consumption, now we 'pay to play' with a chance for a knock from the feds.  This will go so nicely when they want to bust with the RICO laws for conspiracy and distribution, where are the conspirators? lets look em up.......Does anyone think this is a free country anymore? More prison population per capita than any other country, more special interests, writing more laws, buying more politicians, this has just got to stop before your children are sold for soylent green. Better yet start with the politicians kids, maybe then something will change. Next new law; the Children of Politicians are the First to go to War Act.  There will have to be a time when the legislators start pulling laws off the books, rather than trying to hem up every little scofflaw with new ones, ....maybe start with this one

Robert
Robert

Warren believes nothing is as bad as it could have been and frequently says so, which may be true, but is not particularly helpful, except possibly to the MMCs and their employees, the better to lead them down the primrose path to destruction.

Never mind employee licensure; when will licenses be issued to the MMCs themselves?  That will be DEA-Day.

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