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Police brutality is killing us, says ACLU of Colorado

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Alexander Landau.
"Police Brutality is Killing Us." That was the stark message, laid out in black-and-white, in the editorial pages of the Denver Post yesterday. But this wasn't an editorial: It was an ad placed by the America Civil Liberties Union of Colorado, part of a new Race to Justice campaign designed to hammer home police brutality as a major issue in this mayoral campaign. The ACLU is calling for a town hall meeting on police brutality, and has set it for June 2, five days before Denver will elect a new mayor. Here's more of its message, laid out on the website www.race2justice.org.

Welcome to the Race to Justice campaign.

The recent incidents of excessive force and racial profiling committed by Denver's Police and Sheriff Departments simply cannot be allowed to continue. Denver needs a radical overhaul of our public safety agencies; one that rebuilds community trust and creates an atmosphere where abuse is never tolerated. The ACLU, along with many other community groups and local leaders, is demanding immediate action.

Why did we take out an ad in the Denver Post? Because reform cannot wait. We are encouraged by the Justice Department's decision to consider a formal investigation of Denver's law enforcement agencies, but this conversation needs to begin with the community.

As evidence of excessive force, the ACLU cites the case of Alexander Landau, who was pulled over for allegedly making an illegal left turn and brutally beaten, as Joel Warner first reported here; Denver City Council recently agreed to pay Landau a $795,000 settlement.

And then there's Michael deHerrera, the son of a sheriff deputy who was beaten as he left LoDo one night -- a beating captured on a stunning video. And Marvin Booker, whose death in Denver's new jail might have improved physical conditions but did nothing to improve attitudes.

By the way, our latest cover story, "Independent Monitor Richard Rosenthal keeps a close eye on the Denver police," deals with these three cases and many other incidents of alleged excessive force by police.

Here's the full Race to Justice statement, which includes a petition you can sign:

Thank you for supporting our Race To Justice by signing our petition calling on the Mayor-Elect to make this his administration's top priority.

The following groups and individuals have already signed on to the statement below:

Greater Metro Denver Ministerial Alliance

Colorado Immigrant Rights Coalition

Denver Branch NAACP

Colorado Progressive Coalition

Colorado Progressive Action

9to5 Working Women of Colorado

Art Way

Progress Now Colorado

COLOR: Colorado Organization for Latina Opportunity & Reproductive Rights

Escuela Tlatelolco

Nita Gonzales

Colorado Prison Law Project

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We the undersigned condemn the decision of Denver's Manager of Safety, Charlie Garcia, that five Denver Sheriff Deputies will receive no punishment for the Coroner‐verified homicide of Rev. Marvin Booker while in custody, because the deputies violated no policy.

A man is dead; a son, a brother, a friend is never coming back, and there is no punishment for those who took his life? Simply because of the blue uniform they wear to work?

We are outraged.

As Denver residents of all backgrounds, representing a broad cross‐section of this community, we believe our law enforcement agencies should protect the public, build strong relationships with the neighborhoods they serve, and be accountable to the residents of this city. Instead, Denver is plagued by decades of law enforcement abuse, from racial profiling to brutality to sexual assault to homicide. Although these troubling occurrences are often reported as isolated events, we know our public safety agencies have created a culture of abuse and we can no longer survive the status quo.

We are uncompromising.

A minor policy change, a single community meeting, or any other token effort to mitigate our concerns will not satisfy us. Denver needs and deserves a radical overhaul of our public safety agencies; one that rebuilds community trust, prioritizes transparency and accountability, and creates an atmosphere where abuse is never tolerated. We have come together to honor the memory of all those who have been victimized by the very public "servants" we should all trust, and we will not back down.

We are organized.

The Public Safety Manager's decision in the homicide of Rev. Marvin Booker may have been the catalyst for our coming together, but we know that there is one person who we will now look to show the leadership that can change the dynamic ‐‐ our next mayor.

Enough is enough.

In signing this letter, we give notice to the Mayor‐Elect that we have seized the authority to recast the landscape of policing in this city. Our expectation is that our efforts will begin with him and it will happen in a meeting we demand take place in the days immediately following the election.

We sign this statement because we expect the Mayor‐elect to prioritize this issue and to join with us to develop an authentically community‐driven process that revolutionizes law enforcement practices in Denver and turns a culture of fear and isolation into one of safety and collaboration.

More from our Colorado Crimes archive: "Denver police brutality scandal: A multimedia timeline."


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geral sosbee
geral sosbee

Cops Impliedly Authorized By New Law To ***Kill Innocent Suspects See statements from the killer cops themselves regarding their delight in the new law that impliedly authorizes them to kill their innocent suspects.   A new law by the US Supremely corrupt and cowardly court impliedly authorizes the killer cops (and the fbi assassins) to murder a fleeing, innocent suspect:         U.S. Justices rule fleeing police is a violent felony"Risk of violence is inherent to vehicle flight," Kennedy said. "It is well known that when offenders use motor vehicles as their means of escape they create serious potential risks of physical injury to others. Flight from a law enforcement officer invites, even demands, pursuit."In order to fully comprehend the disturbed and criminal minds of the cops and their fbi/cia mentors see some of the *comments of joy by cops who relish their new power to kill as authorized by the fools on the highest court. The story and all quotes below are taken from the following link:http://forums.leoaffairs.com/v... Here are representative samplings (from the above link) quoting some of the lunatics in blue who now prepare to kill innocent suspects fleeing from the *homicidal police:"Fleeing in a vehicle IS deadly force, and should be dealt with as other deadly force situations." "I remember back in 2005, or so, at the Brandon Town Center, when unit 100 got on the radio and said "TAKE HIM OUT" in reference to a X31 truck that was trying to get away."                                -----------------------------------------------

Cops' threats to Geral Sosbee:

"In the mean time, don't try to flee or elude the police. It would be wrong...... and could be fatal. I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."                               ------------------------------------------------

Another insane cop threatens Geral  Sosbee, issues an unlawful order, and with the enthusiasm of a serial killer brags about executions:"Stay in Texas and stay off our board. Texas is a great place for criminals....highest number on death row and the highest number of executions. The eyes of Texas are upon you....flee and see what happens."

 Finally, the people of the United States must discover the sick and criminal minds of the police and the fbi in order to intelligently resist the  violent and murderous methods employed as SOP throughout the so-called 'law enforcement' community (i.e., the gang of thugs in the houses of the **LD).  *http://sosbeevfbi.ning.com/for...**http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/stat... The sooner the people are educated about the out of control cops, fbi, etc., the better able we are to defend against them.Yours Truly, Geral Sosbee(956)536-0439 ***http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/oliv...  OTHER IMPORTANT SITES: http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/part... ... lower.htmlhttp://www.sosbeevfbi.com/letterformt...

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here is an interactive map, from the cato institute showing botched paramilitary raids against the people of the USA peruse it at your leisure, just be sure and do it on an empty stomach.http://www.cato.org/raidmap/

Kuei
Kuei

Cops are disgusting! 

SOCOM
SOCOM

Hey, Saxon, are those the 20 marksmen that sat on their ass outside Columbine, shaking in their boots and eating bearclaws while two KIDS went on a shooting rampage INSIDE the school. The same ones that let Dave Sanders bleed to death? Typical civilian law enforcement, tough till the first bullet drones past their mellons.

Sharpshooter
Sharpshooter

Saxon sounds like his maxi-pad needs changing. Maybe he'll kick in MY door one night without a warrant, so he can see what 200 grains of lead moving at 1900 FPS feels like when it passes through his empty fuckin' head. Come for it, tough guy.

HiiiPower
HiiiPower

Wow.

You really showed me how superior and right you were, by your consistent name calling and berating. Where'd you learn that? They give out medals for that kind of vulgarity and name calling?

If you're indeed an officer, I feel sorry for the citizens you're supposed to be protecting.

I served my country, sir, as a military police officer. I went thru the same if not more stringent training, that you, civilian cops don't experience.

Urban Ops training? Been there done it.

Your job is to uphold civility and maintain order you roided up "Demolition Man". This aint Judge Dred buddy , you probably look in the mirror every day and say "I am the law"

In all actuality, you're a power crazed douchebag. You probably didn't get any "respect" until you got a badge. And you most like still don't earn any respect, it may just be fear.

Sorry PIG, WE don't fear you. And we don't respect you.

Or maybe your just a pussy. A guy who types tough from his computer, but really walks around all day praying no one discovers your secret after hours fascination with taking it up the ass.

See how easy it is to insult someone?

You give off positivity you receive it in return.

But you ASSume someones inferior and beneath you, and find out they're not. In turn, you end up sounding like an ASS.

Peace brother.

HiiiPower
HiiiPower

Saxon... It sounds as though you are trying to justify police abusing the powers given to them. Just because you have a "bad day" doesn't allow you to abuse someone.

On a regular job its called "customer service", regardless of how disrespectful a customer is you maintain your composure and act like you have some sense.

Simply because you arrive at the armory at work, grab your badge and gun, doesn't give you the right to assault someone because they've disrespected you. The job of a officer of the law, is to uphold the law, not bend it to make exceptions for them when the choose to break it.

Assault is assault, brutality is brutality regardless of the uniform you wear.

I'll actually be moving to Colorado soon, and I'll be bringing a whole bunch of socially conscious wisdom with me. Its time for the people to stand up for themselves.

"Be the change you wish to see in the world"

All Power To The People.

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

There is a lot of classless invective being thrown around in this statement of intent.  Well here is some invective on 15% of the people that police have to deal with 95% of the time: thieves, rapists, murderers, cocaine, heroin, and methamphetamine dealers, sex offenders, pimps, domestic assault perpetrators AND victims, child abusers, child exploitation perpetrators, drunks, vagrants, and to top it all off, the entitled a$$holes getting pulled over for driving their Hummer or F-150 twenty miles over the speed limit and giving the officer a hard time or insulting their career choice or complaining that their taxes are being used to enforce the speed limit on THEM.  Here's some advice people: Metropolitan police officers have to deal with the worst of human nature on almost a daily basis, and indignant speeders and traffic scoff-laws are the last thing they need.  If you're gonna break the law, own up to the consequences and take it like a man (or woman) when you get caught.  Comply within reason, and if you're in the county jail, if you get out of line you're gonna get your chain yanked, hard.  Be courteous and show a little respect, and if the officer seems like a prick, maybe he just had to serve a warrant for child protective services to take a child from their mother b/c she is so strung out on meth that she's pimping her prepubescent daughter out to a motorcycle gang for more drug money.  And if you're really intent on re-shaping the culture of our country's metropolitan police forces, trade in your ACLU card for a badge (if you're even fit or man enough) and see if you make it a week.  Pu$$ies.

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

What's wrong Kuei?  Get your child porn stash confiscated again?

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

Hey Sharpshitter, where did you go to college?

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

Well since we can't go around with helmets and heavy body armor, and the most firepower we keep with us is either a 9mm or 12 gauge when people out there have AK's and AR's, we might exercise a little more caution 'til SWAT shows up.  Which I am currently being considered for.  Have fun at your Klan rally tonight.  'Till next time Adolf Sharpshitler.

Kuei
Kuei

Yeah, the only way they can fight is in packs. Cops are disgusting! They are complete cowards.

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

And if you are into criminal activity, don't worry, we'll get to you soon enough and we'll be prepared to put our lives on the line to take a scumbag out of the gene pool or put you in prison.

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

If you're really on for it big man, come on down to you local station armed with your weapon of choice and bring it.  See what it feels like to have 20 marksmen unload 10 rds. of 9mm all throughout your body from each officer.  I think it will be a closed casket funeral for you.  And if you're not into criminal activity or not suspected of it, don't fuckin' worry about it, REDNECK-WHITE-TRAILER-TRASH-HICK.  Better yet, put on the badge fag and see how long you last.

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

Well here's a piece of truism for you: If you're not into criminal activity, and if you don't get belligerent when pulled over for speeding on your way to the nudie bar, and you drive sober, then why would you fear the police?  Police are under more scrutiny and oversight than at any other time in history.  I don't understand how you people ask us to keep the scum off the street and away from your families and then have the GAUL to question our methods when you won't do it yourself.  Urban Ops training: whatever.  You failed to mention seeing any action.  Wonder if that's because you were a degenerate r.e.m.f. that wasn't fit to see overseas deployment.  Taking drunk army brats to the drunk tank doesn't make you a hero in anyone's book.  So you can take that military police service of yours and shove it up your cock receptacle.  If you're really serious about cleaning up police departments, put the badge on.  See how many meth houses you take down where the kids are coughing up phlem because all their parents care about is making more meth to sell before you break down.  Or the tragedy of going to the scene of an accident where a 3 year old has flown through the windshield because the mom passed out from being so high on marijuana on the way to her "doctor" and rammed into a telephone pole.  Get real G.I. Joe, you think military personnel are perfect?  Mai Lai, the prison in Iraq where they humiliated those Iraqi prisoners?  Come to think of it, I think that was run by military police.  Sounds like you're in good company.  One last thing: We're not here to protect the criminals, only to honor their rights as American citizens when being placed under arrest.  We're here to protect the good people from the scum of the earth.  And honestly, I don't respect you either.  And I sure as hell don't fear you or your little communistas running around trying to start a revolution.  Show us how it's done, BIG MAN.  I'll see you and your ilk in the streets!

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

HiiiPower, it sounds like you wear Birkenstocks to work in "professional suburbia."  Maybe that socially conscious wisdom will come in handy when you find out one of your kids or one of their friends is abusing meth.  And by statute, spitting on an anyone is considered assault and battery, which gives the officer authority to detain you, and if you resist, you will be pacified into compliance with pain delivered with shock and awe so as to dissuade you from escalating your resistance further.  Assault will be responded to in kind, and brutality will be reciprocated to the point of justifiable homicide if necessary.  Officers are not thugs, but we're going home to our wives and children by any means necessary.  No one is above the law.

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F

here is a thought for you saxon. its called the constitution. as a former navy corpsman, one who also took an oath......we dont brutalize and torture our prisoners. i dont care what the excuse is. it is not about being a pussy, it is about the rule of law, and treating others as you wish to be treated. period. no excuses, sounds to me like you are the one being a pussy. its easy to bully people when you wear a uniform isnt it? and by the way punk, the american civil liberties union protects GOD given rights....not state rights which are easily taken away by rulers...witness Nazi Germany. I stand for the GOD given rights to every Man....(by man I mean mankind)

Kuei
Kuei

Funny how child porn always comes to you mind you pathetic piece of shit. Is that the only thing that turns you on. It's well know that you became a pig only so you had a police baton to play with. Or, should we call it your jolly rod? My guess is male domination is your real fantasy. The only problem is, you are not tough enough to beat a man down on your own, so pedophilia is you closest link to reality.

F
F

Sir, I pray for you soul...if you still have one.

Kuei
Kuei

Your big word today is "WE'LL", isn't it you cowardly piece of shit? No way in hell you would ever venture your timid ass out of your house alone at night to attempt such a feat. If you don't have a half dozen gay pride buddies backing your stretched out ass hole, you will be cowering at home in a closet like a child fearing the wrath of his perverted and drunken Uncle Bubba. Cops are disgusting cowards!

Boat674
Boat674

Saxon- You obviously don't know a thing about who the real criminals are.  I guess we can't count on you to do the right thing.  Go ahead and protect your corporate bosses.  We'll see who comes out on top.

Kuei
Kuei

I got a better idea you cowardly piece of shit. You meet me in a dark alley. ALONE and UNARMED! We will see who still talks shit after the dust clears. You can talk realy tough when you have backup and a gun. And, by the way, I'm REAL good with guns, too. I just don't need them to bust down a low life maggot like you.

ma'am
ma'am

Wow, Saxon you are scary, NOT in a good way.

I hope the police or Westword are following this thread & can find your identity. If you really are a cop you need to be retired or put on a desk job.  

What you are missing is that sometimes a meth head needs protection from a thief or rapist; sometimes a thief is a hungry crazy lady; sometimes the speeder hit a slow patch of road construction on his way to court & he worried he'll loose custody of his children. When you see these people only as 'criminals' you miss their humanity.  

HiiiPower
HiiiPower

You're right, I didn't deploy, the same as you. I put in my police work STATESIDE. Problem is, YOU civilian police believe you're in a fucking WARZONE. 

We're not here discussing your obsession with "Meth Heads". We're discussing innocent people, being, harrassed, mistreated, abused, brutalized, and in some cases killed.

Oscar Grant.

The recent manhandling of a wheelchair prone man in D.C

How much evidence, How much proof, needs to be shown, before WE stop putting up with YOUR shit?

You sit here and type all tough. Proving our point for us.

We don't object to you enforcing the law.

We object to those of you who choose to abuse the responsibility given to you.

We object to your fellow officers who witness you mistreat innocent civilians, and do nothing to prevent it from happening.

We object to the GANG LIKE manner in which the "boy's in blue" carry themselves.

The police in amerika do not want us to respect them.

They want us to fear them.

And the only reason for that is...

YOU FEAR US.

F
F

you ask why people fear the police. wow. i have a dead Marine brother in arizona. gunned down in the middle of the night, by paramilitary police, during a no knock raid. This honorable Marine who served two tours in iraq, came home to a loving wife and a beautiful baby to begin life again after the horror of iraq. what was his crime one might ask? NOTHING, it was a wrong house, and he got over 60 bullets fired into him, right in front of his wife and newborn baby. ok, people like you make me so sick I need to terminate this conversation with you. say whatever you want, sir. I and my brothers fought and died so you may still have that right, however, i choose not to engage in this nonsense anymore. Semper Fi

F
F

and WE will see YOU in the streets.enough said

Robert
Robert

I'm not sure whether you're a cop, or a provocateur for the Denver Anarchist Black Cross.  Keep talking -- you may start the revolution!

HiiiPower
HiiiPower

Saxon it appears you're an officer of the law who is afraid of the people you're supposed to be "serving and protecting".

I agree that someone should not spit upon an officer of the law, however as a police officer you determine the threat level and handle yourself accordingly. You do not escalate the situation with more force than you're presented with. Someone spits on you, pepper spray them, don't beat the shit out of them.

Its called a "Threat Level Index" for a reason.

If the public has to worry about closed minded goons such as yourself possessing a badge and gun, maybe we'd be better off policing ourselves.

royaltree
royaltree

Saxon is an obvious government plant, troll.....They are paid to be on sites everywhere these days to make it appear to the casual reader that there is actual debate. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

Well then put the badge on yourself and show us how it's done.

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

You don't sound like any Marines I've ever known.  You sound more like a degenerate r.e.m.f. to me.  And the Marines I know would be ashamed to hear that someone like you filled their ranks.  

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

Funny thing too, you mention the rule of law.  Who's gonna enforce it then hippie??  Obviously not you...  Maybe if you change the bong water or put down the Texas 5th of Black Velvet you'll think more clearly...

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

Then go sign up BIG MAN.  Change it from the inside and be a whistle blower for all I care.  If you see corruption or abuse, speak out!!  But see how you take it when a person spits in your face and tells you're a loser for giving them a $35.00 seat-belt ticket.  Your baseless claims of bullying people while in uniform and "torture," shows you don't even have a clue.  The men in blue are in a state of undeclared war with the underclass of society to protect your family and keep the under-element away from your kids, and while you may have done your "two years and out" to get a free ride to college, police officers do their duty for often 35 years or more.

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

Nah, you just look like a creep that likes little boys, and I've arrested a couple and you look like a dead-ringer for 'em.  Bet that's why you teach martial arts too huh?  So you can be around little kids?  Cop a feel while "helping" them put their uniform on?  FYI, that Rex Kwon Do shit may work in the red-neck boonies of Idaho, but in the city it gets a little more real...  As husky as you look, I bet you wouldn't last long in a real fight.  You'd be suckin' wind soon enough like you love to suck little boys' cocks right?

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

Really?  What god are you going to be praying to?  B/c according to the doctrine of the God I pray to, I think I'll do fine without a wing-nut fringe lunatic like you praying for me...

Kuei
Kuei

I "look like a sex offender"? Is that the extend of how you investigate? By looks? You stupid piece of shit. You are a sorry excuse for a cop. Ignorant, obnoxious and a blow hard. You are the reason why cops have such a bad rap.  You are nothing more than a glorifies welfare recipient. Just a burden on the backs of hard working americans. And, I'm sure you know what REAL men look like. After all, you probably have 13 stacks of playgirl magazines under your bed. Maybe you joined the pig forvce because you have a fetish for "men" in uniform. You won't take my comments seriously because you can't. If you don't have backup, you don't have balls. Ain't that right? You are a fucking coward. You are like superman wearing kryptonite panties. You are fucking pathetic.

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

Kuei, if that picture is in fact you, you look like a sex offender: The kind that likes little boys.  I'll take your statements seriously when you look less like the local chapter president of N.A.M.B.L.A. and more like a real man.

Kuei
Kuei

"I'm just here to keep the drunks from driving through a stop sign and killing somebody, or getting the cocaine, meth, or heroin dealers off the streets,"

Just who do you thing is funding the cocaine, meth, and heroin on the streets you stupid fuck? That's right! Corporate america. How many banks have been tied to drug trafficking so far? And, the CIA, too! You are their cock puppet. They plug dummies like you in the ass and make you jump at their every whim. And, you are too fucking stupid to realize it. Instead, you view yourself as some sort of penisless superhero because you have a gun and a badge. Wake the fuck up pig. America no longer needs you. We need garbage men more than we need cops. At least when the garbage man comes he KNOWS how to remove the trash. In america cops ARE the trash!

Boat674
Boat674

I believe that "we the people" (including you) are going to have to do it.  I hope the police will be with us (if it comes to that) and not banging heads for their corporate masters

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

What do you want me to do Boat?  March down to Goldman Sachs and place them all under arrest?  For what?  How can they break the law when they WRITE the very laws of corporate finance and banking?  If you want to break THEM, that's going to have to be done by the ballot box or revolution.  I'm just here to keep the drunks from driving through a stop sign and killing somebody, or getting the cocaine, meth, or heroin dealers off the streets, or taking to jail people that commit unjustifiable violence, and maybe a few speeding tickets.  If you want to take out the big 6 banks, you (as in the people) are going to have to do it or give me someone like Ron Paul to vote for.

Kuei
Kuei

54? LOL. THIS is how fucking stupid cops are. Only idiots use their real info on internet forums, and only IMBECILES believe the info. Guess what shit 4 brains, Kuei isn't my real name either you pathetic piece of shit. A chimpanzee is more intelligent than you. But, it doesn't take ANY sort of intelligence to be a cum sucking pig the likes of you, does it? Just follow orders and suck corporate cock and your have a job for life, no matter how fucking disgusting and retarded you are.

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

Oh, I think I could take a 54 year old man quite easily, even without my training.  Sounds like you're the penisless fag to me.  Wake up grandpa, you were dangerous 20 years ago.  Now you're just a damn fool.

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

Indeed, ma'am, and I have an aspiration for your destiny as well:  I hope that you are faced with a harsh reality check on the potential viciousness and savagery with which the criminal under-element sometimes operates in our society. And I hope it happens to you personally. And then maybe you'll have a better appreciation for what officers of the law knowingly, and willingly put themselves up against in certain areas of this country every day to protect leftist, liberal, gun-grabbing, naive ingrates such as yourself from the "bad guys."

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

Well maybe him doing "nothing" was the line Alex Jones told you, but what I read he was suspected of armed takeovers of drug stash houses, and when the police opened the door he had an assault rifle pointed at them.  Guess the process is gonna have to work itself out.  And we all know, military personnel NEVER do ANYTHING wrong, like in Mai Lai in Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan (are you familiar with sarcasm?).  And just so you know, some of my "brothers" are "your brothers" too, and when it comes to me or you, I guarantee if you're one of the "bad guys," they're choosing to side with me. Maybe the men YOU served with never did anything wrong, but there have been enough military committed atrocities to prove there are going to be a few bad actors in any delineable organization no matter how much honor they purport to advocate. That includes military, and yes police. Take a chill pill and stop watching 24 'cuz that's not how the law operates and the men and women I serve with are nothing but consummate professionals.

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

You sound like an inadequate man, "F."  You just repeat the Alex Jones hysteria like some trained parrot.  Honestly I listen to him.  I agree with him about 80% of the time, but if listening to him means I'm in some way associated with shizophrenic lunatics like you, then he probably just lost a listener.

prole
prole

the DABC doesn't need any provocateurs to prove points about police violence--the cops do a fine job themselves.

nickzane
nickzane

This guy sounds like a shill or agent provocateur. He does have one thing right when he said "No one is above the law"...and that means the cops especially. Certainly, anyone who takes the job of a police officer does so knowing that they are to set an exemplary example of what it is to be a law abiding citizen. Unfortunately, it is extremely rare for a corrupt police officer to be indicted after an internal affairs investigation and it is almost "never" when one is convicted.

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

Actually where I'm from you can't pepper spray them unless they have a less than lethal weapon, or after you have already tried to detain them and they resist.  You haven't a clue.  FAIL 

Yes, police yourselves, I'd like to see a corn-pipe smokin' hippie like you police yourself.  Good luck with that.  And when the semi truck blows into your fake wood sided PT cruiser b/c the driver has been up for 4 days straight on speed and your family is killed, you can at least say you were "policing yourselves."  Better yet, join the force BIG MAN!  Show us how it's done, and I'll be glad to hand the flag they draped over your coffin to your mourning wife b/c someone took advantage of your affable naivete.

And yes, the people we have to police or take off the streets a significant portion of the time have a tendency to lash out, resist and be violent.  This isn't a fucking job at Old Navy or Marshall Fields you naive, witless malcontent.  Show respect and you'll get respect.  Fuddy dudds are probably all just a bunch of Vietnam pot smokers that "have seen some stuuuufff... maaaaan."  Here's a hint, get off the dope and go to church.

Boat674
Boat674

Saxon go home baby--we don't need or want you "protecting" us.  Pick up your stuff and get the hell out before your forced out

F
F

wow, sorry royaltree, this fine officer that we have hired hopes that crime touches your life in a soul shaking, tragic way that leaves you scarred for life. keep it up saxon, its filth like you that we the people are sick and TIRED of! Folks is there any more doubt that we live in a gestapo police state? use your critical thinking skills. lets get together and tell scumbags like this we arent their property.

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

Well, if I am I'm not being paid enough.  Losers, the Constitution only guarantees certain rights, it is not an ad hoc document that says you can do whatever you want, wherever you are, whenever you want to.  And if you are all scoff-cops like some of you indicate that you are, there is a part of me that hopes that crime touches your life in a soul shaking, tragic way that leaves you scarred for life.  

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its been said by better men than me, but I will say this in my own words. I regret that I have only one life to give for my country. I love this country and my fellow americans. so much so that i volunteered to join the navy to be a corpsman. to protect and serve my brother marines, but more importantly to protect and defend the constitution of the United States of America. I have held that oath in sacrosanct. I will defend this constitution to the death, and many times almost had to do just that. I'm very sorry you are truamatized by scraping babies off the pavement, thats rough. I know the smell of death and destruction. Yet still I held my honor, and so did my brother marines, and not ONE of us EVER got our "jollies" off having to cause death, destruction, and terror. In times of war and extreme conditions you find out what you are made of, and as a consequence so do others. you, sir, have shown what you are made of. You are a disgrace to not only the law of the land but are a disgrace as a man. You use your truamatic experiences to justify being cruel. sorry sir, that doesnt cut it.We need you to turn in your badge immediatly and begin PTSD counseling, so you wont cause any more hurt to my fellow Americans.We have been traumatized enough by criminal banksters, lying politicians, and gestapo tactics you gangsters in black have been pulling. Either respect the oath that you took, or take off the badge.

The_Saxon
The_Saxon

What's more pathetic Pahalik?  Trying to keep drugs away from kids, or sitting in yo mama's basement smokin' a phattie playing X-box all day long?  I can tell by your name that you're a stoner.  Loser. 

Pahalik
Pahalik

You can tell even from his "Saxon" nick that he just believes it is his right to be "a Big Man".  How pathetic.

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nah, not gonna respond to your fascist views anymore. time for patriots to stand up to the growing police state and stand up for our GOD given rights. soon the day comes when you gangsters in (formerly in blue) your black paramilitary outfits come a breakin down the wrong door and you find out what a real patriot does. you sound just like the punks down in arizona that busted in the door of my marine brother and pumped 70 shots into him, after he survived two tours in iraq. keep it up punks, some of us aint gonna go down that easy, and remember cameras work for us too, keep filming us and building dossiers on us, we are doing the same for you, we will see who wins, and who is swinging from lampposts at the end of this. I took an oath to defend the constitution of the USA, and i meant it then and i mean it now. and yes i know all about the gangsters in blue, ive got two uncles that were denver cops, and i have seen with my own two eyes what you gangsters do. i am done with talking to you punks. the answer to 1984 is 1776. oooorah God bless the USA

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