Marijuana activist Miguel Lopez admits taking Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol Act petition

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Miguel Lopez.
Marijuana activist Miguel Lopez took a signed petition for the Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol act of 2012 out of a voter's hands on July 17 and allegedly prevented volunteers from retrieving it. When the petition didn't resurface last week, Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol proponent Mason Tvert filed a formal complaint with the Secretary of State's Office against Lopez, who has actively campaigned against the initiative.

Tvert said he's fine with having a very vocal opposition to his bill, but stealing a petition crosses the line.

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Mason Tvert.
"Miguel loves to talk about how his speech is being hindered, yet he's trying to prevent people from carrying a petition," said Tvert. "That's the most pure form of speech. You aren't just preventing someone from expressing free speech. You are completely disenfranchising them."

But Lopez says members of the Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol coalition have brought this on themselves. He maintains that volunteers had "physically interrupted" his July 17 "PROTEST the FED(s) and Unite the Despaired MARIJUANA/HEMP RALLY" at least two times, and that he'd had enough. "Why do they keep sending petitioners to our rallies when we oppose them?" he asks. "That's like sending the KKK to a Chicano rally."

According to the complaint, Lopez grabbed a petition out of the hands of a Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol volunteer and threw it in a trashcan outside of a rally at Skyline Park in downtown Denver. Lopez confirms this happened, although he declined to elaborate. Lopez told the Colorado Springs Independent that he was actually trying to save the petition by taking it from one of his supporters who was going to destroy it, not sign it.

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"Wayward" Bill Chengelis.
Tvert tells a different story. The complaint says Lopez allegedly blocked the Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol volunteer from getting the petition by standing in front of the trashcan.

Local activist "Wayward" Bill Chengelis provides more detail. He says the petitioners were intimidated by a growing crowd of Lopez's supporters and left the public park without getting the petition back. "They were smart to get out of there," he said. "I told them: 'Don't bring that within the rally area. I don't care what you do outside, but you are only asking for trouble if you bring that in here.'"

After the volunteers left, Chengelis confirmed that Crazy for Justice's Corey Donahue, who was recently arrested for allegedly trespassing at a Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol volunteer meeting, removed the petition and passed it around to a few activists -- and it has not been seen since. Chengelis says the last person he saw with the petition was local activist Robert Lopez.

Chengelis added that he doesn't totally support the Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol proposal, but seeing voter's rights trampled motivated him to speak out. "Those are signatures that probably won't be counted now," he said. "And as a voter, I'd like to think that when I sign a petition, it is going to count."

Rich Coolidge, spokesman for the Secretary of State's Office, says state personnel are still reviewing the complaint. He adds that the taking of a petition is a "unique set of circumstances" with which he can't recall his office ever having dealt. The investigation is expected to be completed in the next few days.

Look below to read the complaint, which can also be accessed by clicking here.

Miguel Lopez Complaint

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Doug Bennett
Doug Bennett

 Sounds like I missed all the action, I should have stayed there. Just for the record no one sent me there. I went of my own accord, thinking I might find some support and a rational ear to bend. Boy, was I naive. I should have known there would be drama. I wonder who was circulating the petition after I left?

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

Doug, you were set up -- Scott Greene or Mason could have told you and Emmett that you would not get a friendly reception at Miguel's rally of the downtrodden; instead of putting the blame on Miguel, ask yourself why they did not

Doug Bennett
Doug Bennett

They did not because they didn't even know I was going. As I have stated, I went on my own. No one sent me there. Had I been in communication with Scott, Mason, Brian, or Emmett, I'm sure they would have warned me about the opposition. I did manage to get three people to sign, and walked away (with all my petitions). Did I piss some people off? Probably, but I did find three voters willing to stand up for themselves.

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J~Dawg
J~Dawg

We are looking to put together a monthly/bimonthly "round table" event for the cannactivists to come together to hash-out their differences, learn about each others situations, and and learn communication skills like rhetorical sophistication in augmentation, non-violent communication discussion techniques, proper civil protocol, and much more. We already have a venue, and some professionals set to come in and get this going on the right track.

Excitingly, it looks like one of the 'Generals' of the movement has agreed to stepped up and take the reins on this. You all know this man, and I hope this fellow's leadership can bring together these kindred, yet disparate groups so they may achieve a great good for Colorado society.

More to come on this as it develops. If you would like to volunteer time, professional skills, or money to these events please contact me at jamesmcvaney@hotmail:disqus .com and I will put you in touch with the correct people, or information. Thank you,~James McV

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

James, turn around; the barn door is open and the horses are halfway to Hotchkiss.

"Augmentation" is the last thing that most people's rhetoric needs -- you meant "argumentation".

J~Dawg
J~Dawg

Did I spell something wrong... opps its late. Thanks for pointing that out Rob.

I meant argumentation not Augmentation.

J~Dawg
J~Dawg

Did I spell something wrong... opps its late. Thanks for pointing that out Rob.

I meant argumentation not Augmentation.

J~dawg
J~dawg

Did I spell something wrong... opps its late. Thanks for pointing that out Rob.

I meant argumentation not Augmentation.

Light Rail Tattler
Light Rail Tattler

Oh gee whiz, how do you regulate Weed and Seed soda pop being sold at Weed and Seed shops for $10.00 a bottle?  I've been offered a job as a care-giver and transporter of Weed and Seed, Weed and Seed soda pop and Weed and Seed brownies. The Weed and Seed shops need to regulate themselves, selling Weed and Seed soda pop and brownies is pushing their luck into closure.Next time hold your rally at Market Street Station, RTD safe deposits cultivator's cash.

High Country Caregiver
High Country Caregiver

All the edibles and sodas are made from garbage.  It's the nastiest shit you wouldn't even want to look at yet they turn it into edibles and serve it up all over Denver proclaiming it will make you feel better.  If the garbage that edibles are made from wasn't garbage it would be left as bud.

Niles Aronson
Niles Aronson

disagree.  you may buy it from some 5 and Dime that doesnt care about what they use in their product, but their are companies out here making huge advances in the cannabis infused products.  as much as i disagree with the owners, Simply Pure is on of the leading companies to manufacture high end edibles, and I dont know about you, but i LOVE THChocolates (the guy is actually Culinary trained in Chocolate)

Guest
Guest

That's just not true. You are talking out of your ass.

Wanda
Wanda

Whoa!  That is not true of all edibles.  At Simply Pure, we only use pure 100% Bud.  We NEVER buy trim.  We have our own farm and professional kitchen staffed only by Chefs.  Chefs who own restaurants and cook for people like Congressman Jared Polis. Our Chefs are graduates of Johnson and Wales and our partner, has a Master's in Culinary Nutrition.

We maintain complete control of all stages of our edibles.  We are 100% organic, gluten free and vegan.  All of our products are tested at the plant, hash and finished product stages.  Our food is even tested at an independent food lab for purity before it is infused. We know how to treat food and do so by professional standards.

We are CHEFS and our food is ready for the FDA when that day comes. 

Wanda James, CEOSimply Purewww.simplypure.com

Guest
Guest

And the "caregiver" who claimed otherwise is nothing but a parasite and a scam artist. Simpy Pure makes great edibles.

Robert
Robert

You must be a nitwit if you really believe that (or been living in a cave)!  I have a well documented history of activism on behalf of patients, caregivers, and all adults who choose to use cannabis, in the street, in the Capitol, at the CDPHE, and at the DOR.  Google is your friend.  Of course, had you been to almost any of the State hearings about cannabis you would have seen me in action -- been hanging out with Mason?

 

Guest
Guest

You REALLY need to stop calling yourself a "caregiver". You obviously have no fucking clue what that word actually means.

It's asshats like you who work hard to keep cannabis illegal. When people can grow their own in their backyard, all you clowns will be forced to get real jobs or starve. Either way, I can't wait. You're a fucking parasite.

Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen

That's what I thought... You wouldn't dare answer that question. I guess its kind of like how undercover cops have to tell you if you ask them. Also, now that we all know you're working for law enforcement all you need to know is that my name is Concerned Citizen!

Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen

Mr. Chasenski, that sounds a lot like a threat.

I noticed that you chose not to answer my questions in the other thread, so I'll try again here: How much money have you raised? Who has endorsed your initiative? Is your plan simply to obstruct others' efforts? And, most importantly, how much does law enforcement pay you and the other grassroots whacktivists to be obstructionists? I find it very telling that you refuse to answer, or even deny, that last question......

And for the record, I am not being paid by law enforcement. I am just a concerned citizen!

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

Are you ready for the DEA when that day comes?

High Country Caregiver
High Country Caregiver

Wow, you are really into your bullshit, no offense, but I hope you and all the morons who are trying to commercialize cannabis rot in hell.

Your product is in every High School and Junior High in Colorado and is not helping anyone, since "the day has come". Children in school love the edibles, because obviously there is no smoke and it gets them really intoxicated.

Colorado Mmj Patient
Colorado Mmj Patient

This is a very unfortunate event.  We don't need any more black eyes for marijuana. 

High Country Caregiver
High Country Caregiver

Now that's what I'm talking about!  Let the games begin!  Screw all the idiots who talk about weed and hand out petitions, I'm having a great time getting high regardless!!

Guest
Guest

Lopez, Chenglis and Donohue are NOT activists but rather emotionally unstable loudmouths who use cannabis to address their low self esteem, issues with authority and neurotic psyches.

It's almost as if they are working for the DEA as undercover operatives dedicated to toppling the movement from the inside -- literally everything they do is either counter-productive to the cause or just so completely bat-shit insane it boggles the mind.

If any of these three clowns actually cared about influencing the public discourse in favor of legalization they would leave their personal agendas at home and shut the fuck up in public in favor of more persuasive voices and tactics. Instead they continue to use cannabis as their own personal rubber rooms; proof positive they do not deserve to represent the conscious cannabis consumers of Colorado. 

Now I'm pissed. I'm going to go listen to some Chet Baker and smoke a joint just to try to forget how one of the most important political and cultural movements of the new century is being hijacked by total assclowns.

Guest
Guest

Because you are not out there doing anything just hiding on the internet and complaining about what people are doing.  You want it to change get out there and do something.

High Country Caregiver
High Country Caregiver

There is no need to do anything, I have weed and I'm high, + I'm posting in the Westword forum and that's a doing something nuff said

Guest
Guest

You're a jackass. You may be a high jackass, but a jackass you remain nonetheless.

High Country Caregiver
High Country Caregiver

Try Peter Tosh, "Legalize it and don't criticize it"

It's all the weed talk that is insane around Colorado, sheer madness!

The plant is responding too and taking over the minds' of the pot clowns!

Guest
Guest

So why didn't Bill Chengelis get the petition after it was thrown in the trash if he was so concerned about votes being counted? It seems that his concern is overstated if he did nothing but observe what was going on.

Niles Aronson
Niles Aronson

he supports Miguel and his actions IMO.  "Wild" Bill was one of the first to declare "WAR" against Mason and the Legalization group.  Also, imo, Lopez, Bill, and Chase are all on the same level.  Miguel has openly admitted to me that he tried to intimidate a lawyer after she worked on the language for Amendment 46 (which didnt pass) by arriving at her house with a group of "really big black thuggish gangster looking guys"...this is the type of tactics they are wanting to take on to get their voice heard over another

Doug Bennett
Doug Bennett

I tried to talk to Chenglis that day, but he was busy arguing with some guy, and told (ordered) me to "BACK OFF" (his exact words).

CR
CR

Crazy for "Justice" (or simply crazy) Losers! Move On!!!  Stop sabotaging other groups!  Think about how your childish behavior reflects on all the movement.  Big props to the real professional activists like Mason Tvert!

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

Ha, ha, ha! Professional activists don't testify at hearings or disagree with politicians, they hang out in offices and have really important phone conversations with other decision-makers, like Mason Tvert.

Observer
Observer

Awesome.  Just when I think the MMJ crowd can't get more hilarious, they start playing a game of "keep away" with their petitions.

You're like the Republican Party and the Tea Baggers.  Stoke up the "I want my constitutional rights" marching band to get the message out, then the fringe crazies show up and steal the show.

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

Hilarious -- only you do have it in reverse.  Proponents took petitions to a rally staged by their opponents for the youth of downtown (very few voters among them).  Mason & Co. perceive this incident to be an opportunity to discredit their critics, and they are plugging it here for all it's worth, and then some.

Guest
Guest

once again, you're pathetic. You only stand up for people's rights when it supports your cause.

you, sir, are the worst kind of hypocrite imaginable.

Comeon
Comeon

Do you support driving under the influence?  

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

See above (and all my previous posts you ignored) -- that I do not care to condemn Miguel does not make me a hypocrite, and the "so that driving under the influence of marijuana shall remain illegal" initiative will appear on the ballot; your pretense that someone's right to vote has been infringed is pathetic.

Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen

Grassroots whacktivists like Corey, Miguel and their ilk are playing right into the hands of John Suthers and prohibitionists everywhere. I wish they'd go run their own initiative and quit obstructing true cannabis reform!

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

No, people who place their opponents' arguments against re-legalization at the head of an intiative supposed to re-legalize are playing into the hands of Suthers and the prohibitionists.  Do you think that his ilk will be mollified by the "so it shall remain illegal ..." clauses?  The opposite is the case; it will just set them slavering.

LegalizeCannabis&Hemp2012
LegalizeCannabis&Hemp2012

There are true professionals pushing the regulate like alcohol act, and they will likely succeed because Colorado is ready for a responsible form of legalization. Lopez and his posse of thugs will call anybody a racist and will persist with destroying the movement from the inside out.. If they don't lock him up until the election then the legalizers will actually have a real problem on their hands.. and chances for ending prohibition will look even dimmer.

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

Could the backers of this intiative be any dimmer?  Do you really imagine that Miguel threatens your poorly conceived initiative?

Guest
Guest

It's pathetic how you pick and choose which people to support when it comes to their inalienable rights, Robert.

Miguel goes and violates one of the most sacred rights we have in this country, and you poo-poo it off. He literally stole people's votes.

Meanwhile, you're going blue in the face screaming about Corey's rights being violated up in Boulder, when he clearly was in the wrong.

We're all starting to see your true, cowardly ways.

Hahaha
Hahaha

Let me guess, you want them to follow you? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

Bullshit!  I am not going to pass on the propriety of what Miguel did or did not do, but I will point out (again) that proponents' stupid foray into a rally of their opponents will not impede the certification of their "so that driving under the influence of marijuana shall remain illegal" initiative for the ballot -- no "votes" were stolen, and I have every expectation that that initiative will appear on the ballot (and that its proscriptions will serve as a focus for the prohibitionists' propaganda).

Corey Donahue acted rightly in the Boulder Library -- that he was not disruptive is confirmed by multiple witnesses, and is conceded by the City administration, but you lie, and lie, and lie, anonymously.  The people who do not understand why you are posting anonymously are stupid, the people who swallow Mason's distortions whole are stupid, and the people who cannot deal with facts and rely on their past impressions are stupid -- the cannabis community is full of stupid people, politically clueless people, and poorly educated people.  We need a base of people who are smart, involved, and aware if we are to make any further progress -- sheep who blindly follow the likes of Tvert will not serve that purpose.

So I, who confront the prohibitionists at every turn, in street protest, in reasoned debate, and in testimony have "cowardly ways", but people who do not show up, collaborate with the prohibitionists, and do not even have the courage to identify themselves are our natural leaders?  You are deranged.

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