Update: Med. Marijuana Enforcement Division chief Dan Hartman out? Revenue dept. responds

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Dan Hartman.
Update: We've now received a response from Department of Revenue spokesman Mark Couch regarding persistent reports from multiple medical marijuana industry sources that Dan Hartman will depart as director of the state's Medical Marijuana Enforcement Division at day's end. Couch's prepared statement doesn't contradict our previous reporting, but neither does it provide specifics. Instead, it hints at more changes to come.

The statement reads:

The Department has new executive leadership, both at the executive director and senior director of the Division of Enforcement levels. With new leadership, there is generally a desire to review the organizational structure and determine if additional movement would be appropriate in order to create cross-training opportunities and bench strength. The senior director of enforcement is reviewing his organization and will announce some decisions within the next week.

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Barbara Brohl.
The new executive director is Barbara Brohl. She's the state official charged with asking the Drug Enforcement Administration to designate marijuana a Schedule II controlled substance under the provisions of House Bill 1284, Colorado's main MMJ regulatory measure. Brohl was appointed to the position by Governor John Hickenlooper in June.

The senior director of the Division of Enforcement? That's George Thomson, taking over for Matt Cook, who became a medical marijuana industry consultant after leaving his state gig at the end of June.

The statement doesn't directly address Hartman's position, but neither does it dispute the contention that he's leaving MMED -- and that's telling. Presumably, we'll get more details next week. However, it's unlikely the information will reveal whether his departure came as a result of a controversial op-ed on view below, or if one of the other wild rumors currently flying back and forth between industry types was a factor.

Look for William Breathes's previous coverage below.

Original item by William Breathes, 5:12 p.m. October 27: Today, multiple medical marijuana industry sources tell us Dan Hartman will no longer head the Medical Marijuana Enforcement Division after tomorrow. At this writing, neither MMED nor Department of Revenue reps have responded to interview requests; if and when they do, we'll update this post. But while our sources disagree about whether Hartman was canned or stepped down, most agree his impending departure is connected to an op-ed piece he wrote that was published by several newspapers.

The piece, published in communities that are considering medical marijuana retail bans, takes a pro-MMJ industry stance. Here's an excerpt from the item published in Steamboat Today on October 13: "If your community bans commercial medical marijuana businesses... you will only remove the regulated medical marijuana distribution model from your community."

Politics aside, the fact that an appointed state official would be advocating for medical marijuana in our communities is pretty mind blowing to me. I'm not alone. As one Facebook commenter wrote: "I gotta say this is an affront to honesty on the part of the MMED if this is grounds for firing the Director."

It's easy to imagine the op-ed pissing off quite a few people ahead of Hartman in the political food chain -- folks who might have interpreted it as a state official pushing dangerous drugs in our communities, or shilling for the very industry he's charged with overseeing, and that he might one day join. Example of the latter: Matt Cook, the state's former medical pot director, who became a medical marijuana consultant after leaving public office.

Even though Hartman's departure has not yet been confirmed, lots of people in the online cannabis community are already predicting a ball-busting, by-the-books hardass replacement to steer the Good Ship Ganja back into more conservative waters.

Below is a complete copy of Hartman's letter:

I am the director of the Medical Marijuana Enforcement Division (MMED) of the Colorado Department of Revenue, and I want to make you fully aware how your vote will affect the availability of medical marijuana in your community. In 2000, the citizens of Colorado voted to legalize the use of medical marijuana, and therefore, the ability for lawfully registered patients to obtain and use medical marijuana within your community will not change. If your community bans commercial medical marijuana businesses (centers, cultivations and infused-product manufacturers) you will only remove the regulated medical marijuana distribution model from your community.

Our agency is tasked with building and maintaining a transparent and unambiguous regulatory scheme within which Colorado's commercial medical marijuana industry will operate. Law enforcement officers who are criminal investigators determine if an applicant (owner) is able to meet statutory requirements by conducting extensive background investigations that delve into each applicant's financial, criminal and personal history. These investigations ensure industry members meet statutory requirements such as financial stability and good character. Individuals who work as employees or vendors also must pass background checks to obtain an MMED occupational license allowing them to work within this industry.

The MMED regulatory compliance staff is made up of law enforcement criminal investigators and auditors who monitor commercial medical marijuana from seed to sale. Business owners must account for each plant introduced to growth medium to its final sale to a patient. They must install and maintain 24-hour video surveillance systems in each location, and they must adhere to stringent accounting controls and practices. Businesses are required to submit online reports and maintain extensive records on all product grown and any transactions or transfers that take place with their medical marijuana inventory. This regulatory scheme creates a closed system in which the product may be obtained and transferred only between these heavily regulated businesses. We partner with state and federal authorities and law enforcement to address concerns, stop illegal activity and, perhaps most importantly, provide a bright line to determine if a medical marijuana business is operating within this regulatory scheme.

Be aware that Colorado's constitution ensures that lawfully registered patients may grow their own medical marijuana or obtain it from a caregiver. This right will not be affected by your vote to ban medical marijuana businesses. While caregivers are required to register their cultivation location with us, they are not under our jurisdiction and we cannot regulate their activities.

Citizens and law enforcement agencies in areas that have enacted bans have contacted us asking why we do not take action against those operating unlawfully within their jurisdiction. Unfortunately, communities that vote to ban commercial medical marijuana operations also ban the MMED from regulating and monitoring any and all medical marijuana activity within their community. Only those businesses operating within areas that allow for commercial medical marijuana will be regulated and monitored by the MMED.

I want Colorado citizens to truly understand what they are voting for or against. This ban will not remove medical marijuana from your community, but it will prevent the MMED from being able to help ensure that medical marijuana sales are regulated, monitored, safe, secure and taxed.

Dan Hartman

Director, Medical Marijuana Enforcement Division of the Colorado Department of Revenue

More from our Marijuana archive: "Medical marijuana: 9 license rejections, 50 fines, says enforcement division's Dan Hartman."

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Instntkrma

some BAD ASS sock puppets sock puppets here! 

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 Commercial medical marijuana should be legalized and taxed to death!

This is a proven money-maker.

lol

np 

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Hartman's letter is disingenuous and completely shilling for the For-Profit Commercial Retail Dispensaries. No wonder he got canned.

As he correctly notes, banning these greed-driven overpriced commercial retail dispensaries will not eliminate the constitutionally protected Patients and Individual Caregivers ... but allowing these unnecessary public nuisance commercial dispensaries will also not have any effect upon the activity of Patients and Individual Caregivers operating under the constitutional protections of Amendment 20. MMED will still have no authority over them, nor should it ever.

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jeffman
jeffman

Buddy forwarded this to me from youtube.  this josh stanley admits to turning people in to police

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

urallinsane
urallinsane

You are retarted.  Josh clearly stated that these people are not caregivers but rather black market dealers.  He also said he gave them a moment to leave the premises or he would call the athorities.  Pretty generous for you drug dealers.  I will continue to get oil for my cancer for free from Josh and let the thugs get their drugs from you.

Guest
Guest

I will give dollars to donuts that you are Josh Stanley or an employee of his dispensary.

urallinsane
urallinsane

You just gave me one of the best belly laughs I've had in a while.  I think it's hillarious how all you dispensary owners beat on each other.  Glad I have people to help me access meds that I trust and glad I don't have to shop around the thugs pot shops.

kanelaw
kanelaw

And I will bet dollars to dese nuts that you are one of Josh's competitors that can't show up on their own merits, but rather have to put the legitimate people in the industry down to make your shady shop look good.  It's obvious when people in this industry bash the true legitimate leaders that you are and always have been selling drugs, not medicine.  We know why you don't want legislation, because you aren't clean enough to run a convenience store, much less a medicine store.  Keep beating up on people like Josh, but in reality, you are making them look good and revealing your own true natures.

High Country Caregiver
High Country Caregiver

There are NARCS and then there are proud NARCS, Josh is a proud NARC idiot.

urallinsane
urallinsane

High Country Caregiver is a proud drug dealer thug

Michael Roberts
Michael Roberts

FYI, a number of comments on this post have been deleted because they were falsely credited to someone who didn't write them. It's our policy to delete such comments whenever the issue is brought to our attention.

High Country Caregiver
High Country Caregiver

It's the real me Michael, thanks for not deleting.  I love the Westword forums, truly one of the best parts of my stoner lifestyle.  Westword provides the social pot factor that is needed.  Thanks for keeping pot social and fun!

Keep Talking
Keep Talking

You crazy ass people trying to talk shit really have no idea who you’re fucking with and what some of these people are capable of. Keep talking shit about MMIG and its members. You should do your homework on who the board members are. We know who most of you are and believe me I’m going to make it my personal goal to mess your livelihoods up as best I can. Mark my words. You could have just had civil conversations but you want to make personal attacks and believe me my bite is much worse than my bark. This is going to be fun... Your right, some of us is very connected people that have been in this state and made a lot of money and had a lot of success doing a variety of other things ranging from Banking, Casinos, Hard money lending, Development, Private Asset Management, Politics, Real Estate Holdings and many more. You think that were just going to take this shit talking lightly when you put our names up and make up false statements about us? You should really take a close look at the backgrounds of the people you have posted up here. Keep it up and remember we know who most of you are already. Believe me you’re going to make this fun for a person like me. I take pleasure in messing with people that can do nothing but run their mouths. You guys are like the kid in high school that kept running his mouth until he said the wrong thing to the wrong guy and wound up on crutches. This is a lot like that except instead of you needing crutches you’re going to find yourselves without a business and not a dollar to your name. It will take friends in high places to pull my foot from your asses and you don’t have those kind of friends… None of you wacktivists have anything worth talking about nor have you ever done anything exceptional with your lives worth talking about. People like us have had success in many different parts of our lives and businesses. Our track records speak for themselves. Yours don’t say shit except you have big mouths and believe me its going to be my pleasure to stick my size 12 in them.  Keep talking because your days are limited….

Guest
Guest

What are you exactly talking about?

Keep Talking
Keep Talking

Your all so smart... Figure it out.

Keep Talking
Keep Talking

FYI, I never said I was going to hurt anyone physically Isaid he didn't have the balls to meet me face to face because it’s easy to talkshit on a blog and a lot harder to say it to someone’s face. No one from MMIGthrew Dan under the bus. You’re just mad because what I said is true. You activisttypes have no real stories of success, your just people with too much sparetime and not enough drive to make real things happen. People on MMIG have verysuccessful carriers with real stories that are documented. I bet the best thingany of you people have done is graduate from college and possibly not eventhat. Do something productive!!! Make a real carrier and then come talk to me.I’m sure your parents are proud of the fact that you blog false facts.  Fact is most of you are a joke and all you cando is try and insult people on Wesword Blogs. Jokers. I bet most of you can’teven qualify for a car lone. I've said my piece and I'm out.

cantwealljustgetabong
cantwealljustgetabong

I can say with certainty that none of the posters that are claiming to be MMIG are MMIG.  This is someone goading and trolling. Guaranteed. It's not to say MMIG members aren't reading this, but they are not posting.  To prove this - this is why certain posts were removed due to someone claiming to be someone they weren't. 

MMIG is PIGS
MMIG is PIGS

@f6b153aba0ec0fe647873db2b0bac0c4:disqus Do you realize you are committing the crime of assault by threatening like you are doing?

So... MMIG people are on here doing 4 things nowClaiming A did not cause BThrowing Dan Hartman under the busBad mouthing those who don't agree with them by calling them names, like, whacktivist.Committing assault

Real professional organization you all got going on there. SMH.

Josh1975
Josh1975

It doesn't sound like you want to talk. I have an idea- everyone work together to figure things out. After all, we are all in this together trying to fight "The Man" and the ridiculous laws that have been in place for way too long.

Uniformed.
Uniformed.

You're the one doing the most shit talking buddy. uh oh MMIG...if you want to call yourself business people there's no reason for you to be on here threatening people like you can actually do something. Are you going to call your hit man?  There's a lot of people from the outside watching those "legitimate" business deals that MMIG members have done over the last 2 years under this regulatory model that you keep trying to influence and keep FUCKING UP?!  Yes you might know some people in this state but I hate to tell you most of them only want your $ and they are not real friends.  They most likely call you a drug dealer behind your back...so shut your mouth and keep doing business in the shady ways you always have. You're a joke and so is that organization of people who feel like they can get away with anything because they have $.  Grow the fuck up and come find me and I'll talk with you face to face. 

Josh Stanley
Josh Stanley

Found this video about me testifying about turning in people to the police that came to my MMC.  This was before the 70/30 rule.

Please feel free to share and inform people about how I operate.  

http://youtu.be/kxNcy0YAr0c

Jake Browne
Jake Browne

What he actually said was that he called the police on people who weren't caregivers and showed up with a duffel bag of marijuana (likely from California or elsewhere).

I don't think anyone should go to jail for marijuana possession, but that's illegal distribution and could threaten your business. Just ask Cherry Top Farms, who lost almost everything because someone brought illegal product to their center. 

Monkey
Monkey

Still living in a fantasy world huh. The DEA thought everyone involved was illegally distributing, thats why Cherry Farms lost almost everything. It's called building a case for conviction, they arrested the people they were investigating and now stumbled across other suspects, instead of prematurely arresting them, they will now investigate Cherry Farms and build an airtight case before arrest. The rules that make you believe you're legal are actually tools to help bust you and your allies from the MMED have proven they will offer no assistance.

Wes
Wes

The law enforcement establishment has decided they are better off if regulation fails. They have turned on the regulators.

Just wonderin'
Just wonderin'

Activists do have an effect. Why would MMIG want to silence everyone who opposes the current system? Where is the posting of MMIG members? Why are they ashamed to post as their real names?

John
John

The only reason the membership list is not posted is the website has never been updated. That's right, MMIG seems to think the funds they have are much better spent on education and legalization. What most people don't understand is that this moment of compliance IS the first step to legalization. So it's time to make a choice. Spout threats and lies, or stand up and be a voice to take back cannabis as a personal medicine.

DavidT
DavidT

Excellent Point.

Monkey
Monkey

Very entertaining posts today, here's my take. The MMED. MMIG, Dan Hartman and so called 'wacktivists" are all impotent when it comes to patient issues, none of them help but all of them claim they do. You can't help patients while you're concerned about industry and you can't help patients by bashing industry. Obviously the letter was promoting new regulations over patients and caregivers growing their own, in my opinion that's inappropriate. I have an idea, stop supporting the MMED, MMIG, Dan Hartman and the wacktivists and support yourself by seeking self reliance, grow your own or find a skilled caregiver to provide for you. Take industry and enforcement out of your life and use the constitutional amendment I voted for 11 years ago, it's been working great for allot of us. Let the "centers" deal with the red tape they draped over everything and walk past their door smiling because you have better buds in your pocket than you ever purchased from them. As you can tell I'm more of a industry basher but I don't claim to help patients, just patients I know. If everyone started helping their neighbors and friends there would be less of a need for this industry to consume themselves with regulations and being legitimate and start concentrating on a good product for the patients with no other means than the storefront dispensary. We need both caregivers and centers, instead of fighting over patients and wasting time discrediting each other maybe we should ignore each other, It might sound hypocritical coming from a industry basher, who bashes allot, but I'm going to try harder from now on to just speak positively about patients and caregivers without bashing the industry. I'll try, no promises, I'm a passionate person.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Your political analysis is correct.

The best interests of Patients and Private Individual Caregivers -- political, financial, legal and medical -- are in DIRECT CONFLICT with the for-profit, commercial retail dispensary industry.

Patients Wake UP ! ... lobbying for or supporting the greed-driven retail dispensary industry -- and their parasitic bedfellows at Dept. of REVENUE -- is like an uninsured, underemployed cancer patient supporting Big Pharma and the FDA.

Try to not be such politically naive fools and tools.

betweenthelines
betweenthelines

I think what happened here is Mr. Hartman was asked a question and answered it honestly. The Attorney General started pouting because his honesty contradicts the lies that have become institutional policy over at the DEA.

Josh Stanley
Josh Stanley

Can anyone provide a list of all MMCs and MIPs that belong to MMIG?

Josh Stanley
Josh Stanley

I know I'm a proud member!

Others:The Clinic (all 3 shops)Local Product of ColoradoRiver Rock (home of BHO and yet no MIP ?!?)Manga Ganja (14+ edibles companies somehow under 1 company)Steve Ackerman's center in Ft. CollinsWho else?

nicelady1977
nicelady1977

theres too many. But comment more so we can add additional members.

DavidDingle
DavidDingle

What a great idea! We need a list of those companies/products involved with MMIG. We can list them here and add to the ones that we know of...Occupy MMIG!!

Keep Talking
Keep Talking

We do appreciate your comments and further you can’t handle our names because when you find out who some of us are you will realize that you should have kept your fucking mouth shut. It’s easy to talk shit on a blog if you really want to meet me I can arrange a private sit down. Just name the time and place. Lets see if you have the balls to sit and talk face to face.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Charming personality you have.

You make the perfect spokesperson for MMIG.

Stay the Course.

Uniformed.
Uniformed.

Exactly what I was trying to get at.  I don't feel comfortable calling people out by name on here Josh, It's not my style to even get involved either but I don't like when I see misinformation(which has always been a huge problem within this industry) happening ...There's a lot of other factors that haven't been mentioned about people who work for and are a part of MMIG.  There's a reason you've never heard anything positive about them.  That is all I have to say. 

Josh1975
Josh1975

Their are some nasty comments on here. Why can't you all just be civil and talk? Name calling and Threatening comments are useless. I see many comments blaming MMIG. Why are they to blame? Why are you keeping your names hidden? You are 'talking' a tough game, but you're afraid to expose yourself? A couple of your statement are threatening. You sound like a gangsta...

Sdf
Sdf

potheads

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(SDF) solitary douche fudge

troll.  

am i cool now?  you see that?  I just took your one-word response and modified it, even if my own response has little to do with the article about which I am posting.  holy crap, the irony is making my a-hole pucker.

Blame Kristen Thompson
Blame Kristen Thompson

All you crazy activist types always point the finger atMMIG. MMIG had nothing to do with this and if you actually believe that you’rean idiot. MMIG members are just as shocked about this as the rest of you.Kristen Thompson and the attorney General had everything to do with this.Kristen Thompson is the worst kind of bull shit lobbyist you could ever runinto and if you see her on the streets you should trip her and kick her while she’sdown. Because of Kristen Thompson’s secret letter to the State asking that DanHeartman be put under investigation, and a bull shit attempt to discredit herformer partner were in this mess. She’s evil and teaming up with the AttorneyGeneral to secretly attack this industry. She acts like she’s on our side butshe will steel your presents on Christmas Eve while you’re sleeping. KristenThompson is a terrible insecure person that needs to be called out for thishuge error. Shame on you Kristen Thompson!!! We all know it was you and we willsee you soon J

MMIG is PIGS
MMIG is PIGS

Josh, Nice to see you posting. You just can't step away from your "Look how crazy those people are" meme, can you. Just how long do you think people are going to buy that generalization for???

Your assertion that MMIG had nothing to do with this (Dan Hartman getting fired) is ludicrious on the face.

MMIG had EVERYTHING to do with this. Here let me draw the clear cut lines on this for you, since after all you think I am a idiot.

A MMIG board member, Steve Ackerman, is the head of Citizens for Safer Neighborhoods, the group opposing the ban dispensary ban campaign in Fort Collins. The original letter Dan Hartman wrote was for a Fort Collins newspaper.

Would Dan have written this letter if not asked by MMIG? Of course not, his predecessor never did such a thing, and Dan is/WAS a busy man, who surely did not have time to drop everything and write a letter that could get him demoted. Clearly MMIG asked for the letter, and Dan wrote it. There is no other logical explanation.

Dan is now fired. And MMIG is trying to deny all blame. smh.

The next MMED head will be much more distant, and harsher than Mr. Hartman was because of MMIGs actions. This will of course lead to patients getting hurt, ONCE AGAIN, by MMIG and their glory seeking inept, and childish actions.

PS: I have no idea who Kirsten Thompson is, but anytime you, or anyone, advocates tripping and kicking a woman... I really have to question why God put people like you on this Earth.

Twriling hippy cakes SUCK
Twriling hippy cakes SUCK

you are so right jessica. We should not have asked dan to write a letter on behalf of ft. collins. how foolish of us. STUPID. We should not have dared to help the 15 dispensaries in that city at all by asking Dan to state the simple fact that cities who have banned dispensaries were asking him to regulate the marijuana in their communities and that he was powerless to do anything. Don't blame Suthers for being an outspoken enemy of MMJ and making a big deal out of nothing. Just blame MMIG, because thats your fight. Forget about helping out patients or dispensary owners, just fight the people who are actually doing something. More nasty blogging, e-mailing, yelling, etc. Thats going to be a tremendous help. 

Amyhampton
Amyhampton

Dont blame MMIG, take a closer look at elected Sheriffs and DEA!!!

Re: pig hater
Re: pig hater

Quick overview of MMIG lobbyists: Kristen is the fat one. Kara is the skinny one that was dating Josh Stanley.

Lies Lies Lies
Lies Lies Lies

Your right Kristen Thompson is a fat ugly bitch but she hasn't worked for MMIG for a long time. She works for Matt Huron (Good Chemistry) as an independant shitty lobiest. Good thing Matt has money because if not Kristen would probably be on the streets. Kara is a single mother and Josh Stanley is maried. I'm pretty sure their not dating.

nicelady1977
nicelady1977

the above posting is much too boring and to read, but from what i can see it has little substance.

MMIG is PIGS
MMIG is PIGS

If Dan was not already fired, and that could still be 'undone' - I would not write this. I'm actaully a really nice and caring person who will do anything for good people.

So let me paraphrase what you just said in your prior post.

"A MMIG Board member asked the head of the agency that regulates him to write a letter to help with the election that may shut him down (because certainly the letter would do no harm). However, this is A OK because Dan did not use the "magic words". We are right because the other people are, by our definition (only), crazy."

Let's take this to another level of abstraction... "I have money. The person who says if I can make money, or not, did his best to see that I am still in business, and therefore he is still in business. Everyone who has a problem with this is crazy."

Or how about this level of abstraction..."I have the gold. Serve me. If you don't like me, you are crazy"

Mike, Norton, or who ever you are....get over it. MMIG got caught with their pants down doing questionable acts.

What people can expect now is for MMIG to try to shift the blame, or try to start talking about something totally unrelated to them getting a man fired from his job because of their greed.

What a stand-up group. Its members should consider this as MMIGs show of integrity, and how when/if push ever comes to shove... they will not be there behind your back.

PS: For those not getting the pig reference in my posting name... Google "Animal Farm" + pigs + book.

Wacktivists = Morons
Wacktivists = Morons

Above posters are idiots who have no connection to anything. (1) kristin is not a lobbyist for MMIG (2) Steve Ackerman asked Dan to write a letter on behalf of dispensaries in Ft. Collins. Is that bad? Sorry for trying to help out dispensaries in ft. Collins. Gee, maybe we should let the guy with pot leaves in his hair run that fight. It would earn us a lot of friends. Also, its not as if Dan was wrong for writing that letter. He did not say, "vote against the ban". He just stated the simple fact that cities who had already banned were contacting him about regulating the marijuana in their communities and that he was unable to help. Blaming MMIG for Suthers' response to Dan is typical of the foolishness exhibited by the wacktivists. 

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