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Marijuana raid: Cherry Top Farms compliant with state, but feds still seize plants, medicine

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Update: According to the manager at the Cherry Top Farms medical marijuana center, a raid yesterday targeted a contract grower, not Cherry Top or any of its employees. But because federal officers were involved, they seized all of the dispensary's live plants, medicine and more, despite it being completely legal under Colorado's rules and regulations.

"We are 100 percent compliant," emphasizes the manager, who requests that his name not be used in the wake of seizure. "But when the feds walk in, they can do whatever they want."

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A photo of a Cherry Top Farms plant from the dispensary's Facebook page.
The manager identifies the target of the investigation as Nathan Do. He and his father, Ha Do, own Earth's Medicine, a Federal Boulevard dispensary that earned a mediocre review from medical marijuana critic William Breathes earlier this year; more on that later.

"He had heat on him from other situations, and he was here -- so they came to take care of him," the manager notes. "But when they got here, they were unable to turn a blind eye. And they did a lot of damage."

The first officers began showing up "at maybe 10:30 or 11 in the morning," the manager recalls. "They blocked the gates, and then progressively more and more agencies showed up. Originally, it was the Denver Police Department, and then it was the Medical Marijuana Enforcement Division" -- we contacted MMED yesterday afternoon, and spokeswoman Julie Postlethwait e-mailed that she was unaware of the situation. "Then there were the feds. And when they got here, they decided they needed a search warrant for us, too."

Along the way, the manager continues, "they lined all of us up and questioned us and took our phones and badges" -- the identification badges mandated for dispensary employees by Colorado law. "Then they gave some of us the option to leave, after they handed over their IDs. But a few of us chose to stay, and we were forced to wait in a two-parking-space area, probably ten feet by ten feet, from 11 to 11. They did let us go to the bathroom, but you definitely had to ask permission."

Over the course of the day, the manager guesses that there were "close to three dozen officers here between the Denver Police Department, the Enforcement Division and the feds" -- representatives from the Drug Enforcement Administration and the U.S. Attorney's Office. "They had their ducks in a row for Nathan, and then, in the afternoon, they faxed a federal search-and-seizure warrant, and showed up with a U-Haul."



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Philo99
Philo99

If I hear one more dispensary owner say they are there to help people, I'm going to puke. None of them are there to help people. They are only interested in making money.

Is Ryan Smith and his pot chain The Clinic, helping people when they buy and shut down a day care center so they can sell more pot?

p.s.: a little note to the Feds. All the dispensaries are shipping product out of state.

lmpapjbd
lmpapjbd

So if you don't like the Federal Government stepping on your neck... you must be a supporter of State's Rights.... But if you support State's Rights... then you're a racist who supports slavery... at least according to Democrats.

SWAC
SWAC

Dear Westword, Michael, Will, etc.,

Please keep covering this story. What the feds will or won't do here in CO is extremely important to patients and centers alike. Please help us know what's going on.

Monkey
Monkey

Looks like the whole license thing isn't keeping anyone safe huh. The background check for this "contract grower" didn't do anything either. People who think that Colorado rules and regulations will do anything to protect them is fooling themselves. This is not a warning it is a chance for you to take your money and run with no repercussions, the Feds never do that. Instead of showing up with guns they sent a message, get out now and we wont do anything, stay and we'll burn your village down. Colorado will keep cashing your checks and your lawyers will tell you everything's fine but neither one will help you when the Feds show up.

Hipi
Hipi

Someone should instead be enforcing Psychiatrists all over the USA who are pumping Benzos into our kids, erasing their memories, and turning them into zombies. 

sojournerC
sojournerC

In the update Will mentions that the MMED spokeswomen new nothing of the action, and that the MMED showed up after the Denver Police and Feds. 

Hipi
Hipi

"scandal" makes the best point.

we have already learned SO much about the MMED we did not know before.

Now we know that they are an extension of the federal government and its medieval policies.

Now we know that they sold us out, but at least they did it so that a handful of people could get rich off of licensing fees that were only designed to register your business for a Federal raid.

Wow. At least today the smoke has cleared and the man behind the curtain is exposed. MMED...

someotherguy
someotherguy

If they get the warrant for a dispensary does that give them access to the OPC if its separate? That would really suck.

Don't Panic!
Don't Panic!

Just so everyone knows, this is NOT part of a larger federal crackdown.  The Feds were after an individual who was working part time with Cherry Top, for an offense unrelated to his work at the MMC.  As soon as the Feds became involved, they were unable to turn a blind eye to the activities of the MMC, and that's why the raid occurred.  Bottom line: these are good people, and they could use the support of the community at this time.

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

They said it would not happen -- all of them, over and over again.

scandal
scandal

So philo99 you are friends with every dispensary owner in the state? Quit spewing B.S.

Justsayin
Justsayin

the daycare owners didn't have to sell out. they could have stayed and ran their business. but they decided to take the money and run. big fucking deal. maybe, they were tired of dealing with the bratty little highlands kids and their stuck up parents. so they decided to make some money off the fear surronding mmj and retire early.

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

It isn't "either ... or" -- restoring the Bill of Rights does not mean empowering the arbitrary historical divisions known as states or in destroying the central government -- it's neither.  As for what Democrats say, it is not a plank of their party's platforms that supporting state's rights equates to racism, but that is beside the point too -- neither major political party represent the interests of the 99%.  The Neo-Feudal Party supports the interests of the wealthiest 1/10%; the Collaborationist Party is far more catholic, embracing the richest 1% and even more.

Hipi
Hipi

word. the entire westword company is doing its best work right now keeping us Hip to these bizarre and random occurences that threaten are freedoms. keep it up!! you are saving lives!!!

Hipi
Hipi

kinda like the Angels did to Sodom and Gomorrah 

William Breathes
William Breathes

FYI -

Michael Roberts is covering this story, not me.

thanks for commenting

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

Hipi--If the centers had read the applications they filled out they wold have known this from the start.  Many of us have been screaming from the mountain tops that this has been the largest sting operation in US history.  No one sold the center applicants out other then themselves. 

They must have overlooked the transfer of their power of attorney to the CO DoR, IRS and DEA.  They also gave up their 4th and 5th amendment rights in the US constitution on top of the loss of their power of attorney. (though I don't think that is legal) The application said that their info could be shared with any state, federal or foreign country.  They made people list their scares, tatoos and birthmarks and where they could find their children and their ages and just about god damn everything. 

THIS WAS IN OUR FACES AND MOST of you called me and others fear mongers, said I was crazy and HAVE NOT HELPED FIGHT for OUR RIGHTS.  So you get what you have.  Over 700 UNLICENSED medical marijuana centers and the FEDS on a rampage nationwide, now supported by CA Appeals Court ruling I sited in above post.

In fact I was quite vocal:

http://blogs.westword.com/late...

The centers also funded CMMR who helped author hb1284--you know about the new 2010 unconstitutional Orwellian "seed to sale to jail" tracking of mmj? 

And if you weren't part of that and you kept silent and went along the quicksand path then you also did it to yourselves because you didn't want to be "noticed" by the MMED so you would not get your license application rejected. 

There are 6 centers out of 800 plus at the start who contributed to the PCRLP lawsuit that addresses following the state constitution when it comes to PATIENT PROTECTIONS/RIGHTS and caregivers right to dispense for profit. For over a year myself and others have warned everyone of the "grey" new laws and their consequences.  Well the are HERE. 

Truth
Truth

How about getting mad at the guy that was under Federal investigation? What did that guy do to be under investigation??? There is no room for trouble makers in this business. We have to be cleaner and better than everyone else right now if we ever want to make it through this mess. No messing around. Stay out of trouble and keep your records clean. Don't do black market deals and expect to get away with it. They are watching and waiting for us to mess up. Dont give them the chance when were so close. Worry about keeping this industry alive and just stear clear of people you know are doing questionable things.

sojournerC
sojournerC

In the update Will mentions that the MMED spokeswomen new nothing of the action, and that the MMED showed up after the Denver Police.

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

You can keep telling yourself that but the CA ruling on Oct 4th would say otherwise...I posted this Oct 10th. 

I'm sure everyone see's the FEDS are 'shutting down' medical marijuana centers in CA, (aside from stomping out 2nd amendment rights to cannabis users) but no one is seeing why they are doing this. 

I believe that this court ruling that came out of the CA Court of Appeals on the same day, Oct. 4th, 2011 has allot to do with it. 

http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/op...

The court finds that any affirmative right to cultivate/sell/dispense marijuana is preempted by federal law. Basically the court is saying the only laws that aren't preempted by federal law are laws that merely decriminalize marijuana (in all 16 states and DC). 

This is very much like the decision the Colorado Court of Appeals gave in the Beinor case that was ruled on Aug. 18, 2011.  2-1 they ruled that CO had not legalized but only decriminalized the possession--not the use or the cultivation or sale.

So the CA court rules that all state and local rules/regs and sales are still illegal.  (Hence HB1284 in CO is included in this null and void in the eyes of the FEDS.) 

The only law left nationwide to be officially struck down or upheld is the Colorado Constitution.  The state of Colorado is unique when it comes to medical marijuana.  We are the only state that amended medical marijuana into our constitution.  Coloradans (and the rest of the country and the world) believed Colorado had the strongest laws because we put the right to mmj use into our constitution. 

The only question left nationwide regarding medical marijuana is CURRENTLY in front of the Colorado Supreme Court-(Beinor appeal)-Does the Colorado Constitution grant fundamental rights to Coloradans? 

The Colorado Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 that it does not.  The Patient and Caregiver Rights Litigation Project and the CPA did convince Mr. Beinor to let us fund an appeal to the Colorado Supreme Court filed in timely fashion. 

This mean's that the ONLY chance still in play in the country for medial marijuana RIGHTS is our appeal to the Colorado Supreme Court in the Beinor case. 

What are our chances? 1.  Well, the the Colorado Supreme Court could decide not to hear the appeal.  Then we continue the PCRLP declaratory judgement in Denver District Court and it will take us 6 months to a year to work our way back to the Colorado Supreme Court. 

2.  They could decide to hear it and rule against us.--That's when we get clarification that our state rights/constitutions are castrated and we can all just leave the country.

3.  They could decide to hear it and UPHOLD the constitution we operated under for 10 years.  If it does, then all states that want medical marijuana to be' legal' instead of decrim will need to amend their constitutions. Then everyone wins nationwide.  And we continue with the PCRLP lawsuit to clarify our right to sell/dispense for a profit and our rights to patient privacy.  No more video tapping patients via live internet stream to law enforcement, assessable to the DEA and no more Orwellian RFID chips on cannabis plants tracking seed to sale and no more sharing of medical records with law enforcement and no more plant or weight limit, as the patients and the caregivers decide how much cannabis they need to heal themselves.  No more required registry to obtain cannabis (not required under the constitution for 10 plus years).    Our rights in our constitution will be restored to what we voted for and operated under from 2000 until 2010.

Our constitutional rights were always believed to be the strongest in the country by everyone.  The FEDS are never going to give up their preemption on state statutes but are they going to stomp out state constitutions now too?  And if so, why have state rights at all?  Better yet, are we going to let them stomp out our rights after over a decade?  Are we going to just sit back as they arrest us one by one?  I have always said it's better to be a plaintiff than a defendant. 

Donate now at cannabislawsuits.com and help Colorado establish that constitutional amendments do qualify as fundamental RIGHTS for the rest of the country. 

Kathleen ChippiPatient Caregiver Rights Litigation Project303-258-1200 work1-888-eat-hemp

scandal
scandal

And why are the fed's involved oh because the mmed got them involved just like they will with every other dispensary.If a employe was doing something wrong why get the fed's involved i thought they the investigators have the power to arrest a person on site so why i ask do they get the fed's involved why did dispensaries pay huge sums of $$$ to the state of colorado it wasn't so they can get the fed's involved.The state was payed huge sums of $$$ to enforce our colorado medical marijuana laws not the fed's.We were sold out.

Michelle LaMay
Michelle LaMay

Where that reader who commented on RiverRock across the street? It has been shocking to me since I have owned a business just to what lengths people will go to wipe out their competitors. "Just sayin…"

Hipi
Hipi

ya well it was just common sense to me that you wouldn't register yourself as a cartel on paper for the Feds to have their whole case built for them without doing any work. but a lot of people i guess are too invested in this to back down. 

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

How about maybe the guy who was busted IS a COP!  Ever think of that? 

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

MMED only has the authority for enforcement over LICENSED centers.  Conveniently NO STATE LICENSES HAVE BEEN ISSUED TO DATE. 

How many times do I and many others have to explain that to people? 

Same reason the MMED was only at the Carbondale bust to SHOW.  Read the facts--the local drug task force did all of the undercover work and made the bust--not the MMED.  They were only there to look good for National Geographic cameras that were somehow in Carbondale at 11 am to record the "accused cocaine"sale from a center.  Somebody clued Nat Geo into driving across the state to record the worst thing we could of ever wanted and the MMED was there for

Hipi
Hipi

amen brother. such a hoodwink, is usually reserved to scammers from the likes of Jamaica, like, really ruthless liars and thieves. smh. 

Jojo
Jojo

Riverrock is not across the street. Just left of the frame, they have a large billboard. You see it Right as you turn for cherry top farms. Total dick move by mmig's Michael Elliot.

Truth
Truth

I never said that they were legal. I said to stay out of trouble so as to not disrupt the people watching. I'm very well aware that no one is legal yet. Thanks for clarifying.

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

Truth-"I was a caregiver under the old definition"

NO ONE has the AUTHORITY to change the definition of the Colorado Constitution!  NO one, not the general assembly not MMIG ---  ONLY a vote of "we the people".

But you and MMIG and and the general assembly and law enforcement (what a TEAM) all seem to think you have some god damn right to HIJACK our god damn constitution.  And then you tell us to sit back and accept your BS. F off, un identified MMIG member.

These people couldn't make the change from a basement grow to a business? 

Personally I CHOSE not to (hb1284) grow thousands of plants.  Your language set caregivers up to be considered "big time drug dealers, manufactures etc.", when they NEVER were.  This is a set up for the FEDS to bust people who used to be constitutionally protected caregivers with 10 year mandatory mins. YOU ARE IN ON THE STING and WORKING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT while you break the law of the land, the constitution.  And you sound smart enough to understand you were used.

Truth
Truth

Actually I'm from Colorado and I have lived here for over 30 years. I know what I need to know about cannabis. I started one of the first dispensaries in Colorado and I have been growing for 10 years. I was a caregiver under the old definition. I very much understand how this industry has changed and I personally think it changed for the better. We are beginning a revolution here in Colorado. A real regulatory scheme that other states are starting to follow. Say what you guys want about MMIG but I don’t see any of the other organizations making trips to DC to actually sit down and talk with our delegates in a respectful fashion. When I say respectful I mean not dressed in tie died clothing with picket signs. I mean looking and acting the part to make a real difference. Is there something bad about that?  I don’t see other organizations helping fight the Ban in Fort Collins. I don’t see other organizations fighting the DUID Bill. Some people were put out by regulation either because of lack of money or lack of business sense. Just like any other emerging industry some people are going to lose and some will win. When people try and talk about patients losing their rights because care givers aren’t allowed to grow weed in their houses any more I laugh. Those people just couldn’t make the transition from basement to real business. Most patients don’t care where they get their meds as long as they can get them and be legal. That’s it. They are never going back to the old care giver model so why kick a dead horse? If you really want to try and fight that you are going to have a long and disappointing life. Try fighting for something they can actually change. FYI I’m not a member of MMIG but I do employ my own lobbyist. My lobbyist and there’s usually see things pretty eye to eye. MMIG is not the enemy, the federal government is. You should be fighting that fight instead of wasting your time worrying about what MMIG is doing because if the Feds close it down MMIG or not it won’t matter because everyone loses.

scandal
scandal

Who did you get your weed from before brother or are you one of those people who don't know crap about cannabis who only pretends they do.We the people of colorado wont tolerate fake people who say they are about the movement but don't even smoke or ingest cannabis because how can you be a "caregiver" if you don't walk the walk but you only talk the talk.Colorado was fine before your group popped up on the scene and ruined it for everybody but them.Get real.Because there are true ganjaman and women and we the people know who the are they are the real movement.Not you and the mmig or whatever group the splinter off into.

Truth
Truth

The Do Family was not a family of Cops. They were a family of drug dealers and they make the industry look terrible. You should be happy these kind of people are getting in trouble. It makes it much better for the legitimate Medical Marijuana opperations in this town to opperate without this kind of people.

Truth
Truth

Hes not. That guy and his Dad have been around for a long time. They have a dispensary on Federal. They are deffinetly not cops.

Who Are you to tell lies?
Who Are you to tell lies?

Total lie Mrs. Twirling Hippy :) FYI keep your dog away from your kitchen. I will help in your inspections. Peace... 

Truth
Truth

So you really think that the government was going to let people grow weed in their houses on a commercial scale? Listen, I use to do it to. I had a home grow and it was amazing. The problem was there were no rules. Seriously, all I had to do was get patients from Dispensary operations like The Green Door and I was off to the races. If we ever wanted to recognized as a real industry they had to put up rules and regulations just like every other business in the United States: Real Estate, Stocks, Banking, Produce, Farming, Pharmacy’s. All of these industries have their own government agency watching them. Further, growing weed in your house is dangerous. On top of people abusing the rules, a personal residence isn’t built to house a production. Fire code, building code, zoning, neighborhood HOA’s, Children. Commercial facilities built to code in designated areas are the only way to go. They don’t produce baby seats in neighborhoods, why would they have weed be any different??? I’m not trying to insult but you have to look at the bigger picture. If you think they are going to go back to the caregiver model then I invite you to try and convince them. You will be pissing into the wind

Lady
Lady

hey scandal lets not forget that MMIG also helped with the original version of HB1250, and are the primary promoters of the DUID bill 1261 which was defeated thanks to the tireless efforts of some of the good folks posting here, they were so upset that their pandering to the law enforcement's effort to keep a hold on the cash cow of prosecuting patients failed to make the cut, that they made the heat is on posters and ads with patient money and sent them out to MMCs anyway in spite of 1261's failure. Cause they think the best way to support patients is to use patient's* own money to take away their right to drive, expose them to losing their jobs, add to their problems if they are in a custody battle for their kids, and all the other awesome helpful attributes that go along with getting a DUI... *(all MMIG members are paying to play politics, the money they use to do so is collected unwittingly from the patients who shop at their MMCs)Educated Patients Boycott MMIG.

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

your    =   belonging to youyou're  =  you are

scandal
scandal

Its people like you and the mmig that have ruined it for everybody but them and there cronies.We had great medical marijuana before these huge warehouses started popping up the caregivers were providing dispensaries with QUALITY med's now all you see is crap everywhere.This so called group took out caregivers because they were there strongest competition and they are trying to get rid of the rest of the mom and pops also.The colorado medical marijuana movement has been ruined by these special interest groups who are only interested in them selves and not the patients.This group is responsible for dismantling amendment 20,cameras recording patients committing a crime,ruining caregivers, making dispensary owners sign away there constitutional rights and there power of attorney and making fees so outrageous that the people that belong in the movement had to close up shop and now were left with money grubbing hateful people who dont give to shits about the patients because if the did they wouldn't of helped to ruin amendment 20 which was the best model for this state.This is a movement not a industry you corporate P.O.S.

Truth
Truth

Well then I will send you a gift while your sitting in Jail. Guys like you are going to ruin it for the everyone.

Truth
Truth

Thats what I'm saying!!! High Country is a Jack Ass!!!

Guest
Guest

Flaunt your shit and your cell mate will be proud that you are too

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

No one has a license per this story.  Apparently first they need to pay the extortion fee's to the state.  So i stand by my statement that no licenses have been issued. But the Mecendo raids yesterday, of town zip ties didn't seem to matter much to the FEDS who busted them.  Again read the CA ruling I posted above--The court ruled that NO ONE legalized anything--only decrim of possession--not sales and dispensing.  They FEDS do NOT CARE about state issued mmj licenses permitting ANY business in mmj--ONLY patient possession is decrim.

wakeup
wakeup

When you are trying to tell someone what an idiot they are, you should try using spell check or know how to spell when you do so! And should educate yourself on MMIG and what they really do for people. Ultimately they are concerned with what they get out of it!!

Truth
Truth

Good thing I'm not in MMIG but do what you must. I hope you guys have all your ducks in a row as well :). Dirty kitchens will be the end of people like you. Keep your dog away from the edibles. Yea, I know who you are. Pretty cool how I do that.

Lady
Lady

Oddly this was a concern I voiced during the DOR panels, at that time I was vehemently opposed to annonymous complaints being used against MMCs as fodder for raids since the new MMJ industry is so competitive.... Oh the irony that the person who shot me down on that because "little old ladies would be afraid for their lives to step forward to report crimes if they weren't anonymous" has had his very proximate business name tied to this fiasco, PAY ATTENTION...  follow that rabbit down the hole, and it starts to get deep and dark real quick.   

For the record a certain somebody uses the title "council" for RR, but I doubt he could pass the bar exam...

I suggest somebody ask Matt Brown of CMMR what he thinks of Mr Elliot's "career" prospects as a paid lobbyist. 

PS thanks to guest for paraphrasing my newsletter from last week 

Truth
Truth

Good luck with your fight. I will be there to congradulate you when you win.

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

Lies, Arbelaez is the imbecile who "applauded" the Denver City Council's manipulation of the zoning code to shut down 50+ OPGLs -- readers could pretty much invert everything you say and have a far better understanding of the truth.

Josh's Mom
Josh's Mom

Your lying, Truth. MMIG is the .org that was created after their first one, CMMR, got such a bad reputation that it was abandoned.

Mike Elliot came to MMIG after he worked on El Paso's mmj ban election. He was not a founder. He is a paid shill. Nothing more, nothing less.

Norton A. is not the owner of Riverrock, Tony V. is.

What else are you going to lie about, Truth? I'm waiting - bring it!

Josh's Mom
Josh's Mom

Few people know about Mike Elliott's recent trip to DC. Since you know about this, you are obviously either Mike Elliott, Norton (I'm a buckethead) A., Josh Stanley, or one of these loser's goons, or possibly, Joel Stanley from Colorado Springs...

Make no mistake, MMIG is a group of people that will screw you over. They will do anything to grab any power they see. Fortunately, many, many people in the CO mmj scene know this and are more than will to fight MMIG at every chance they get...

Get ready MMIG - we are gunning for you. Your not all that - you just had more money than us. I look forward to taking you all down!!!

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

TRUTH-- You still have not provided ANY evidence to me causing harm to anyone in the state. 

But I will respond to your comments.

Quote Truth--"Do you really think that the caregiver model was the be all end all and that the state would have kept that? If you do then you’re crazy. " 

Do I believe the constitution is the law of the land?  Yes.  I think it's "crazy" you think the constitution can be stomped out by state statute.  There is case law to back that up.  I do think I learned that in 7th grade government/history class, in public school at that.

"Were protected by the constitution and no other State can say that. We are for profit. What else do you want?" 

Apparently you haven't read the memo and I need to continue the elementary education.  On Aug 18, 2011 the Colorado Court of Appeals (the second highest court in the state) ruled 2-1 in Beinor V ICOA that marijauna is NOT LEGAL for anyone in Colorado.  They said that qualifying patients decriminalized possession of mmj----not use, not dispensing, not sales/profit.  These things they ruled as ILLEGAL, UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. 

So until we get the Colorado Supreme Court to over rule Beinor--based on the dissenting judges opinion, the law of the land is the case law created in Beinor.  NO ONE HAS LEGAL MEDICAL MARIJUANA IN COLORADO.

And then the Oct 4th ruling in Pack V the Superior Court of Los Angeles County city of Long Beach says Federal Law preempts ALL state statutes and local regulations.  This means ALL businesses operating under hb1284 are ILLEGAL in the eyes of the FEDS, NO DIFFERENT than CALIFORNIA. 

I'm not making this shit up.  I wish I was.  I'm sorry you hate the messenger so you refuse to accept the facts, but that doesn't change the facts.   The case law is there and that is all that means anything when it comes to  ENFORCEMENT. 

And I'm still looking for your example of how I have harmed anyone?   

Monkey
Monkey

I often disagree with Chippi but this time you are the one who is way off. The DOJ has always said patients and caregivers are not a concern. Pharmaceutical commercial facilities with regulations are not warehouses full of shitty weed, don't try to make people think any marijuana coming from these places are safer than a basement grow. A good grower will always harvest better buds in their own home than an employee at a warehouse, just ask all the employed "master growers" if their basement batch at home looks anything like what they grow at work. No dispensary is protected by the constitution, they all waived their rights for a privilege. Your opinion of this "cool system" we have is strange especially when you say stuff like ''no black market'', that has to be a joke right? Feds can seize everything and come back much later to press charges, just because some people weren't arrested doesn't mean they wont be later, they took everyones personal info and State badges, I think they did that for a reason.

Funny Stuff
Funny Stuff

Thanks, I know I'm brilliant :). Just because I'm brilliant doesen't make you any smarter though. :) Seriously, think about it.

Truth
Truth

Sorry I have a life to attend to before I have time to blog. Do you really think that the caregiver model was the be all end all and that the state would have kept that? If you do then you’re crazy. People growing in their houses on a commercial scale is drug dealing. No federal agency would be ok with that. To give the state a model they would accept was the only way to go. You want to call it medicine well they don't make legitimate medicine in basements. They make it in commercial facilities with regulations. Then they track it, and then they tax it. It’s pretty simple. This applicication process did many things to help this state’s medical marijuana program. It made people be completely transparent and to the eyes of the rest of the United States that’s pretty amazing. Now you have recognized businesses that are taxable and accountable for their product. No black market. It will take a little more time but this is an amazing moddle. Were protected by the constitution and no other State can say that. We are for profit. What else do you want? People that break the law and don't follow the rules should be punished. They didn't arrest the Center owners. That’s pretty cool. That shows respect for our laws. They did bust the family but that family was pretty dumb. Get off your soap box. We have a pretty cool system.

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

Did MMIG finally get wind that you were spewing shit on the blogs forcing me to respond, giving me the opportunity to address MMIG's skeletons publicly, again? 

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

Where did you go, TRUTH?  NO evidence to back up what you say about me?

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

"I was going to stay civil but you really are a piece of work."

Hey, I was a psy major, so I understand your aggression to the FACTS.  I'm still waiting on some reference to exactly what I have done to harm anyone?  Are you intelligent enough to explain your postilion or are you going to continue to stomp your feet and cry? 

I sign my name because I stand by what I write.  I can stand by what I write.  Now how about you, mister anonymous.

Truth
Truth

Your so full of shit its not even funny. No one on MMIG's board has any affilications with pharma. You think I tell lies your so fucking out there its not even funny. FYI, the rummors about you are true. Your a crazy lady with un educated ideas that no one wants to here. No one of any importance any way. Maybe people that are to high to realize that you hurt the industy more than you help it. I was going to stay civil but you really are a piece of work. You should have stayed anomous because now people really know how full of shit you are.

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

All you have is to call me a hippy woman?  whatever that is....yes your brilliant, funny stuff.

I only cut and paste links that prove what I say-- apparently at least I am educated enough to understand evidence needs to be provided.  And I have read the law more then most.  But since your so concerned with me not being educated enough for you, could you please site anything that I have said that is BS--ya know like you referenced?  Or are you gonna keep talking out your ass?

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

Do you have ANY evidence of me picketing an idiots house or anyone's house ever?  So why try to lead the readers down some BS path again?  I mean every comment you have made seems to be worthless when it comes to TRUTH.  Please get past Psy 101, transference issues.   Afraid I will picket some loser who spews shit on blogs?  I don't have the time or the care and NEVER HAVE.  But you clearly swallowed the MMIG propaganda on how Kathleen is crazy.  Good for you. And now we understand your choice in identity--Liars need to clarify they are not, hoping no one will notice?

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

The TRUTH IS mmj was taxed and regulated like ALL other business in the US until passage of HB1284.  And I won't even take time to respond to your other irrational, un supported claims.  I have done background checks on MMIG members and NCIA members and MPP members and DPA members.  All tied to Monsanto, GW Pharma and Beyer and the FED--yes the federal reserve banks.  F U and your reefer madness propaganda.  We don't need to track the safest therapeutic substance known to man more than we tracked the plutonium at Rocky Flats so a few millionaires can own the industry.

Funny Stuff
Funny Stuff

This Chippi chick seems to think she knows everything but if you read what she says its pretty much all bull shit :). Preach on hippy woman with a lack of education. Do a little less cut and paste and a little more reading of the law. Thats just my sugestion. Your making us all look like were still in Elementry school. Please don't take offence to that but seriously think about it. Thanks

Truth
Truth

As for the name change it will never happen. I chose to stay anomous only in fear of people like you chanting with picket signs outside my house. I see your name is Kathleen. Well Kathleen I'm glad you gave me your name but people like me don't demonstrate we take care of business and stay focused on goals. You don't have to worry about people like me because we have more important things to do with our time and brains than picket someones house and make crazy cracks that have no backing to them. How about actually helping the cause by not doing and saying crazy shit. Rather take some time and put real thought and fact behind what you say. I bet if you check the backgrounds of all the MMIG members you won't see one person with ties to Pharma. Just saying maybe you should speak with facts insted of making yourself sound like a jack ass.

Truth
Truth

Wow you think MMIG is big Pharma??? Well then maybe you are the idiot you claim not to be. Not one member of MMIG has ever had anything to do with big pharma or tobacco. Most of them were just plain old people that came together and realized they had a biger voice that way. The companies that I know are involved in MMIG use the money that their barley making to help fund the effort. Un paid people or paid people doesent matter. What matters are the results. Just a little fyi, it takes money to win something like this. Maybe in your fantacy world it doesent but in real life it does. The caregiver model would have never held up. People don't want this substance in neighborhoods. They want it in controled comercial enviorments like every other substance people consume. They want it regulated and taxed. Figure it out

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

God, at least you acknowledge that MMIG brought us HB1284 and SB109.  Now try to understand PATIENTS and CAREGIVER RIGHTS were STOMPED out in both those bills language via over regulation of the "centers"

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

TRUTH--  HOW about a name change (still anonymous of course) to "MY truth" instead of truth?  And I challenge your comments.  I know PLENTY of UNPAID activists who spend way more time actually working for patient rights, in CO and nationwide.  MMIG employees or lobbyists were PAID to screw patients and ma and pa's on behalf of big pharma when they helped author hb1284 and sb109.  Please....we are not idiots you wish we were.  Lets see how much support the MMIG team gets here.

Truth
Truth

Get off the pipe Guest. MMIG is the reason why you have HB 1284 and HB 1043. These are companies with educated management that are creating this industy by using their brians insted of picket signs. The only agenda that MMIG has is to make sure Colorado has a Medical Marijuana Industry.

William Breathes
William Breathes

I thought Norton was with RiverRock? ... the dispensary I'm referring to north of Cherry Top is still on Brighton Blvd between where it shifts on to the diagonal and York.

I know that Garden of the Gods is also around there, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't it either.  It's clearly not an area I'm that familiar with -- but now that I'm confused, I'll probably  drive over there later and figure it out.

have a great weekend everyone. thanks for commenting.

Guest
Guest

MMIG is a LOBBYIST group financed by special interests new to the MMJ industry in Colorado. MMIG's undisclosed membership and private board has a hidden agenda responsible for this assault on your freedom as a patient.

Truth
Truth

Just so you guys are all aware, Norton along with Mike Eliott and the membership of MMIG have done more amazing things for the Colorado Medical Marijuana Community than any one else. These are the companies that are actually stepping up and making a difference. Not many other people pay local and federal lobiests to fight for patients rights and spend their spair time at the capital meeting with people who are in positions to make a real difference. Take trips out to D.C. to educate our local deligates on what we need as an industry. Raise money for Canidates and build respectable relationships with our leaders. These companies spend their hard earned money on building the industry moddle for the United states to eventually follow. I bet that no one that gives MMIG a hard time has don'e 1/20th of the work that these guys have done for this industry. Waving flags and demonstrating outside the capital does nothing. What these guys doing is creating an industry for the people. Not big Pharma but the actual people of Colorado. We get to build our own industry so how about being part of the solution insted of part of the problem. I dare anyone reading this blog to put in one quarter of the work that Mmig members put in and we will have ourselves a very special business moddel here in Colorado that we own. Not big tobacco and not big pharma but us.

Truth
Truth

Um your an idiot. Norton Arbelaez is the the Chair of MMIG and he owns River Rock. Norton along with a few other amazing people including Mike Eliot founded MMIG. Get your facts strait jack ass!!!!

Forestgump
Forestgump

The HUGE dispensary north is Norton Alverez (SP?) of MMIG. 

William Breathes
William Breathes

Since I was just there in the area yesterday, maybe I can clarify:

River Rock is actually down 48th several blocks at York or Josephine. You can't even see the intersection in the picture I snapped. That said, there is another HUGE dispensary just north of Cherry Top, however, that would be 'just left of the frame'; I turned around in their parking lot when I snapped this picture yesterday. (there may be a RR sign to, I didn't notice though).

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