Occupy Denver: Are police hassling legal observers?

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The Colorado chapter of the National Lawyers Guild is offering free representation to those arrested in the Occupy Denver protests. The group's also been sending legal observers to demonstration sites -- and several have shared reports with chapter president Charles Nadler about police officers treating them improperly.

"The police know about our people who do legal observing," says Nadler, who was also heavily involved in representing individuals arrested during the 2008 Democratic National Convention. "They know our people aren't participating in the demonstrations -- that they're there to observe. And the way they can tell who those people are is because they're wearing fluorescent green hats. You can't mistake them. And they generally stay at a distance from where the demonstrations are taking place, but close enough so that they can see what's going on. And most people are also taking video with cell phone cameras -- and some of the police officers apparently don't like that."

Examples? "One of our legal observers saw a police officer chasing four other legal observers away," he notes. "He was not happy they were there. And another observer -- a very experienced, older gentleman who teaches as an adjunct at various places -- was crossing Broadway, moving about as fast as he could. And a police officer behind him reached out, actually stretched out with his big riot baton, and poked him in the back."

Of course, the observers' main job is to watch the interactions between protesters and police -- and they've told Nadler about a number of occasions when "people were arrested in situations that didn't seem to be appropriate. One of the things that happened during the DNC was police would block off a street, and when people couldn't get out, they were arrested for being in a place they weren't supposed to be. And some of the reports I got indicate that's what happened on Broadway on Friday."

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A general assembly of Occupy Denver participants.
Granted, he's also heard about situations in which police provided escape routes for people who wanted to avoid arrest. But when asked about press coverage praising officers for their restraint in dealing with the Occupy Denver backers, he says, "I think that's being overstated by the media."

Thus far, volunteer attorneys assembled with assistance from the National Lawyers Guild and the Colorado Criminal Defense Bar have stood in for many, if not all, of the 46 people arrested to date; by Nadler's count, there have been fifty busts, with four individuals (including Westword profile subject Corey Donahue) getting the treatment twice. Not all of they attorneys will be available for the future court appearances of individuals to whom they've been assigned. So they'll be getting together tonight to swap cases, with an eye toward making sure everyone has representation at the next stage of the legal process.

The lawyers will approach each client differently -- but Nadler says most will likely rely in part on video from the site, which is available in abundance. They'll also take on broader issues, like the right to free speech and assembly.

Nadler cites what he sees as contradictory statements from Governor John Hickenlooper about Lincoln Park -- whether it's available for use during the daytime or if it's closed to all protest-related activity. "It's hard to know exactly what he's saying," he admits. "But if it's closed indefinitely, and it was most definitely a speech forum, then to close it entirely conflicts on its face with the general proposition of the law. Government can control time, place and manner of speech, but it can't shut it out altogether -- and it appears that's what government was doing.

"Another interesting question comes up over the claim that people were camping there overnight. From one perspective, yes, they were camping. But from another perspective, the camping was a form of demonstrating. Legally, whether or not camping can be considered demonstrating hasn't been answered -- and if it is, is it legal to arrest people for protesting?"

Meanwhile, future arrestees should know attorneys are standing by to help them. Says Nadler, "That's part of the reason we exist."

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Barbisbarking
Barbisbarking

I am an eyewitness to excessive police force & questionable local govt tactics against Ocvupy Denver on Sat.,10/15/11 Age: 61yo,mainstream & part of angry 99%

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

Please call me at (720) 213-6497.  The Legal Committee seeks copies of any and all documentation of police abuse.  In addition to whatever legal action you may undertake, please file a complaint with the Office of the Independent Monitor (12th floor of the Webb Building at 201 W Colfax) describing the incident(s) you witnessed -- I will lead a group down there on Monday at 10am to file complaints en masse or you can do it online at:  http://www.denvergov.org/OIM/C...

Mr Manumba Ney
Mr Manumba Ney

Maybe some good will come of this.The cops have a lot of time on their hands.The cops are observing Civic Center Bus Station.The people riding RTD are victims of Occupy Denver.Detours, delays, are causing people to arrive late to work.People are being written up and fired from their jobs.Occupy Denver is not the only event that makes RTD unreliable.The same thing happens to RTD customers  when the following events occur at Civic Center Park and Lincoln Park: Capitol Hill Peoples Fair, Taste of Colorado, Pride Fest and all those other events the city hosts over weekends and holidays.All the events held at Civic Center Park and Veteran's Memorial Park  should be moved to City Park. Stop making Civic Center Bus Station and customers of RTD hostage of your events.City Park has room for all those events to expand and improve on. City Park is huge, goes from Colorado Blvd to York St and from 17th Ave. to 23rd Ave. Moving events to City Park would be good for the Museum of Natural History and Denver Zoo, both located within City Park. There is a lake with paddle boats and a fishing derby could be held.

 avman
avman

Hey...you can always do what I do...leave a bit earlier. I've been taking the bus for over 3 years and I don't have a problem at the RTD Civic Center station. Quit being so lazy, get off your ass and get to the bus stop early.

Beside Blinky, City Park is not by any government or financial institutions so who would see the protest? Oh yeah...the geese at the golf course and the animals in the zoo.

I can tell you have never organized anything, probably not even your sock drawer.

Light Rail Tattler
Light Rail Tattler

He is right, a lot of people miss the Bus during events at Civic Center Park.The people that plan these events don't even take into consideration what street closures around Civic Center Bus station, Lincoln St, Broadway, Bannock St, 14th Ave both directions, Colfax Ave both directions.

Go have your protest at City Park, it's a perfect place for a protest. Denver Police Gang Unit is at City Park too, between the Zoo and Museum of Natural History. They are waiting for you.

Tukadoodle
Tukadoodle

try as you might, these OSW young college punks make it all to clear. Nor the professional protesters too. The message is VERY clear. "Its only the Banks and the FED"..."owned and controlled by the Jews" They want to kill.Loser Ill liberals desperate for another Obama win and frauds by every sense of the words and signs. Dont try your BS cos I was a member and see all their Chat logs Nationwide. Still won't answer where they got all the slick newspapers and 99% button so very fast. Look at the stats of the "protesters" trying to claim they are the "99%" and an example of how very deluded they are. Its great to see Obama, Obama,Pelosi,Reid etc. supporting folks that celebrate Islamic terrorists like in Boston and in print. Most are young white spoiled college brats wanting what their parent have but NOW. Their "letter" of Demands are non negotiable and they won't learn a thing. I asked why protest Student Loans and not Protest the schools ripping them off?  You are all on the run worldwide and toast for the election your going to try to steal. The Coming Insurrection as your Bible makes this all very clear. We are tired of your Lawfare and "rights" you claim to support when you really don't. The 1% controlling our country?..You mean all the GOP only as you leave out Gates,Soros and too many others. Your "Billionaire Homes tours" make it all quite clear and just a bunch of Obama scammers trying to rip America off and not pay your debts as "illegal"only to you. Facisim is not the providence of the Right as you try to project as do the signs you blatantly ignore. I love it all as you ill liberals are the gift that keeps on giving every time you open your mouths. What I learned? To buy more Guns and Ammo for Commies like you!

Simple Statistics
Simple Statistics

I honestly wonder if the people who post these types of comments are real?  I mean no one can be that ignorant or hateful.  It has to be either a joke, or an attempt to try to make it look like some Right winger wrote it to create a divide between the American people.  The comment is complete nonsense and gibberish.  I am an independent voter, I'm 35 years old (and thankfully not in college anymore), I have a professional degree and own my own business (which I started after being laid off from work as a result of the economy).  I attended the rally on Saturday because I want political reform and want to see our political system returned to the people (the human people that is).  So where do I fit in to the above description?  I also know I am not alone in this.  My friends and colleagues joined me on October 15th.  They are all the same age, and also small business owners, who share the same concerns.  Maybe if this guy had gone to college he would realize that 99% is a very big number that includes lots of people including college kids.  But certainly 99% of the people in the world are not ALL in college, so the statements made above are statistically impossible.  I hope the simple statistical information I have provided doesn't make his/her tiny brain explode.  We wouldn't want to have a blood splatter the size of a mosquito to clean up.

Tukadoodle
Tukadoodle

Stop the charade and BS for Obama and your projection on others of your bankrupt schemes. Look at the stats you deny and stop trying to steal in the name of others as you are not even close to the 99%.You call folks like us Names when we object to your support by Nazis and Communists you try to hide. I got indoctrinated at CU and typical personal attacks is the very best you can do. Most of you WHITE folks are in college and have jobs. 35% of you admit violence is your primary tool with Chaos your goal for Obama the LOSER like most of you are. No we don't want anymore of your government venture capital scams defying law and common sense. Most of you punks want what your parent have today. Blame Bush and Fox lies are the best you punks can do? Obamacare is up in flames, Solyndra, Light Squared, and $423K to a truck stop while in Bankruptcy are just a few of the 45B wasted on these "green energy" schemes.  Accessories to Murder of thousands of Mexican and Americans are just par for the course. Hey we have heard it all cos everything and everyone you don't like are "Liars" and so whats the point. Personal attacks are the best you can do as the extended adolescents most of your are. 

You make no cogent argument besides your ridiculous diversions and labels we see right here. Just cannot miss the Nazis,Communists and others that endorse you and just cant miss the Islamic Terrorist you lauded in Boston, You are guilty by association  of the worst of the very worst. So lets see if you can even answer only one item if you can. A bunch of elitists that believe you actually represent the 99%  as you say "is a BIG number" only inside your heads. Your so stupid you cannot even read the book that shows who and what you are all about. Your just Obama socialists pushing bankrupt solutions at best. You cooked in 2012 and just keep it up as folks like you are the gifts that keeps on giving every time you open your mouths. At 4.3% unemployment for Grads, America is not going to put up with your riots nor your Islamic supported American Spring. See if you can watch below cos there is allot more than just this.No its not "a few bad apples" as you keep trying to claim.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=...

Tukadoodle
Tukadoodle

Talk about dumbing down America by Ill liberal Union teachers  in Atalanta in GA I guess? Or how about cooking Civil Service exams to allow dumber minorities?   You folks are so brain dead you have not even read your own book? Come on now tell me the name if you can? Hey I'm not for anyone yet so stop putting words in my mouth as you like to do. I see you folks know exactly what Jesus would do and of course MLK. Its called group think cos you only read each other and pat yourselves on the backs and take a hit. I see you are clearly a virulent Antisemite that supports BLT too and are guilty by your typical "on the record" response. You think anyone is going to throw more good money after bad on folks like you? You clearly see the future by your "learned" claims of being Charlie Sheen winners in advance. You folks cannot even handle me and yet you think you know better than folks. You airheads just wilt when asked a simple question or are required to explain.. on the record and not "present" or silent as your favorite game. 

You think we want losers that let Black Panthers intimidate white voters...now that would be you. Read the book, name it or or shut up. Obama is directly responsible and all you can do is blame Bush? Waste more money than all of our history combined? You think you can label Obama as your "enemy" and folks to believe that with post like this? What we do know is you just give Barney Franks of Frank Dobbson(sp) Bill of "fame" a pass. Or old Maxine shouting "kill all the whiteys"? Sorry if the video facts I provide that you will never click. Or how about Rutgers faculty and students chanting "kill and burn all the Jews? We know you and Obama are all one and the same by the mutual "friends" you keep. Its called Cognitive Dissoncence and psychological Projection endemic to ill liberals that just don't have a clue. Counting your Chickens ( a good metaphor) is all I can say. We know your "ace in the Hole" that you call a brain. Its called prepare for your riots like London 'Protesting" Appliance and Electronic stores to steal them blind. We are ready for your Chaos and had enough of spoiled self centered Xand Y's that refuse to work. College unemployment at 4,3% is a fact you only call a lie. If some of you showered,shaved, cut your hair  and use nice Goodwill clothes like me it would be allot lower. You think Obamacare and Obama STILL supporting a Bankrupt CLASS is inspiring anyone? Look you idiots there are much better speakers than any of you. Obama and his Czars on record are facts you think you hide.I guess 2010 is a message you also call a "lie"? Its worthless debating fraud like you cos you claim to educated but certainly are not very smart. Wisdom, Logic. commons sense eludes you sheep which is really what most of you are. The good news? I already served my time and had you scum spit on me and sell us out. The even better news, Uncle Sam is looking for more than a few good "educated" folks like you. I bet your just chomping at the bit to serve in another Obama war. Of course you will "protest" and try to flee. You folks only Demand what your country will do for you and will reap what you sow soon enough. Name your BOOK!

Whatever
Whatever

you lost.  get over it.

and you'll lose again because you and your candidates cannot dumb down America fast enough.

prepare yourself for another 4 years of frustration.

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

No, forums like this bring out ugliest sorts of expressions by real, ugly Americans.

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

"the Islamic Terrorist you lauded in Boston"?!?  Are you confusing me for someone else?  I have not praised any Islamic terrorists, in Boston or anywhere else.

Tukadoodle
Tukadoodle

Well one read of your Coming Insurrection and see how ugly you are. Try to answer issues instead of stupid names. Try this one on for size along with the Islamic Terrorist you lauded in Boston so stop the Noise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?f... 

Justsayin
Justsayin

who are you talking to? the voices in your head?

Tukadoodle
Tukadoodle

Try something real instead of your stupid reply. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?f...

Tukadoodle
Tukadoodle

Try something original and of course my personal experience protesting and talking to over 100 of you don't count? Cherry picking what? The facts and issues you just don't like. I doubt you viewed or will view one of my videos so I post will post again. I pay better attention than you and read a whole lot more. I see the facts and you don't deny/answer them so GUILTY as charged. It great to see Obama and gang endorse you while you try to "disown" him. I mean your actions speak so loudly no one can hear a word you say. Lazy? not me I worked 60-80 weeks for stuff you want to steal. So here is my big protest and the reason I joined. Most are white student protesting their student loans but do not even mention the Colleges ripping them off. Its not the Banks "controlled by Google and the Jews" with schools FIXING prices with usurious Government terms. Your not fooling anyone trying to energize a bankrupt scheme. I love it cos its really just more gas on the flame. Hope you have read your own handbook published in 2009. Just like your Islamic buddies its all there to see. Lets see if you can mange some keystrokes and prove you actually pay attention and are nor a "little lazy clown". 

cinesimon
cinesimon

Instead of cherry picking, how about you make a bit of effort to actually pay attention to everyone protesting - instead of seeing what you want to see, you lazy little clown.

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

The entire administration of the DPD needs to be fired, and together with those officers at the scene who committed these crimes, tried on Federal charges of conspiracy and acting under color of law to suppress civil rights.

Is Denver as fascist as Birmingham was fifty years ago?

ActionsareSpeech
ActionsareSpeech

"But from another perspective, the camping was a form of demonstrating."

Well, looky here!, just what I said on Oct 13.

I gotta get me a fancy title so people take me seriously.  Or at least a real name. 

Lala
Lala

Will there be any consequences for Hickenlooper or Hancock?  Somehow, I doubt it.

Michael Roberts
Michael Roberts

Your name is real enough for us, Actions. Thanks for posting.

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