Occupy Denver: Highest bond rate yet, photojournalist among 20 arrested

• The things that cops carry are not "batons". Batons are what majorettes, in sequined leotards, spin and toss into the air.  That thing the police carry is a club, for beating people.

• Americans don't have the courage and self-sacrifice that Egyptians, Libyans and other Arabs do.

• Keep dreaming, Teabagger ...

• What is the exact message then?

• Other polls show wide acceptance for many OWS positions. It'll be interesting to see how things shake out. Thanks for the post, Philo99.

• OWS is going to accomplish one great thing. They are going to insure Owebama won't be re-elected. Recent polls show support for OWS at 31%, almost as low as Owebama's approval rating.

• The cops need to clear out and leave these protestors alone for a few hours............So the real 99% can go down there and show these lowlife scumbags what we think of them. We're tired of violence, the arrrests,  the waste of taxpayers money and to make it clear we will never forget the damage done to Fort Collins with their act of terrorism. Wake up pond scum. You don't represent anyone.

• First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Fourteenth Amendment: Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. I understand the mayors of these cities think they have to enforce their laws... But the Constitution, which is the Supreme Law of the Land says otherwise. And since all of these OWS campers are exercising their First Amendment Rights, the state and city governments really don't have anything but their laws in their corner.(No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States) The campers have Constitutional protections behind them for their actions. SO all these illegal arrests will probably cost these cities a huge amount of money they don't have. With the overtime for the police, and adding the suits that will follow from the arrests, and other Constitutional violations. It's going to cost a whole lot more money. Congress really isn't doing anything about this, and this is what I think these people want??? Some sort of acknowledgement, and a pledge to do something.

• thats what i'm trying to understand lol

• So basically these 3 got arrested for counting money? i'm not sure if i quite understand the scenario.  "The total of those arrested this morning includes at least three people previously arrested in connection with Occupy Denver: Scott Greene, Victor Jaime and Chris Schiano." I don't get it????

• I assume they arrested the photojournalist for taking pictures of police, which apparently is still illegal in Colorado. Apparently the First Amendment doesn't apply in Col. 

• What law are they breaking moron?

• You all also need to file Civil Rights lawsuits under 42 U.S.C. Sec. 1983.

• Everyone arrested should refuse to post bail. That will break their injustice system.

• Pigs don't care about Constitutional rights.

• Agreed.... Hmm.. Constitutional Convention??

• Watch this... http://bankofamericasuck.com/ Read this... http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1877351,00.html

• The police are starting a civil war in this country.  Take to arms, people.  There is a revolution coming.  Call the DPD Internal Affairs Dept and complain to them.  See what kind of response you get.  They claim that the only people who were arrested were those violating the law.  They will not file a complaint about the DPD.  They said they will file a complaint about individual officers if you go down and file the report.  They said you need the officer's name and badge number.  I told them that some of the cops aren't displaying their badge numbers.  He just replied that, "yes they are".  They are all deaf eared and are doing what ever they want. Watch this...http://bankofamericasuck.com/Read this...http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1877351,00.html

• I called and talked to the DPDIAD for quite some time.  These guys have nothing but deaf ears.  You had might as well talk to the mafia.  These guys are nothing but criminals.

• Watch this... http://bankofamericasuck.com/ Read this... http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1877351,00.html

• We are supposed to be a nation of common law not statute law.  Therefore, SCOTUS is and has been acting unconstitutionally for more than a hundred years.

• This is part of the problem... we have NEVER had an Amendment that legally limits any freedoms related the the First Amendment, so we still RETAIN ALL RIGHTS related to any speech, and assembly. And also, the Ninth Amendment confirms this. What is really sad is that the courts have allowed Federal law to supersede the protections of the Constitution. This summer the  SCOTUS gave business the right to free speech relating to campaign donations.    

• Oh.. thanks for pointing that out, I had no idea what allowed them to break the law or bend it.. Incorrect case law, and SCOTUS has allowed the Federal Government to violate the Constitution. I know all about it. My point is, Congress is Prohibited by law from making and passing any law that violates, or restricts those supposed freedoms. It's both Congress and the SCOTUS that hasn't followed the instruction in the Constitution.  But what part of "Congress shall make no law respecting" is not understood here, and the Fourteenth Amendment prohibiting states from enforcing and making laws the restrict, or interfere with all Constitutional Rights????? It's what is plainly written in the Constitution!!!!!  No need to interpret..... Congress shall not.......  SIMPLE.

• You are so right..... My take on the issue:  There are to be no restrictions on the First Amendment, because the Constitution says "Congress shall make no law respecting" to those listed rights. I'm not sure what Constitution the Supreme Court is reading, but I don't see any exceptions or any other conclusion when dealing with people's rights in my copy of the Constitution.  The Fourteenth Amendment only applies to states... according to the SCOTUS, but I disagree with that. How can you group all state and city, and local legislatures in the word state, but not include the The United States Government? The Government's power is supposed to limited/enumerated, and I think that's why the Bill of Rights says states. I also think it's important to state that the Federal Government shouldn't be able to violate any of or listed, and non-listed protected rights. The SCOTUS has allowed them to get away with this.... They are not allowed to violate, or pass any laws that violate the Constitution... "CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW" 

• While it is certainly true that the Constitutional rights to freedom of speech and peaceful assembly are not absolute, case law has established that local statutes intended to "keep the peace" cannot be used to suppress those freedoms unless the state can show there was an actual, not potential, disturbance of the peace at hand. In Texas v Johnson (1989) the Supreme Court explicitly rejected the argument that the state can suppress expression where it is expected to cause a breach of peace. In the case of arrests made during peaceful assemblies of Occupy Denver, I suspect it will not be sufficient for the state or city to claim they were only enforcing local ordinances such as curfews and restrictions on the use of public sidewalks. They will have to show, assuming such a case gets that far, that the state or city was dealing with some breach of the peace already in progress, or some other such disturbance that they had a compelling interest in stopping. And this, friends, is one reason it is so important to keep it non-violent.

• Thanks for the number, Ill let them know they are doing a good job...

• or it could be that the police are going to let the marches go, but draw a line at the camping...

• So much for simple things like oh "CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS" We are turning into a fucking POLICE STATE, and most are standing back to let it happen!

• And I'm sure you'll volunteer to be the first to donate to that ocean of blood?  Or is this just more of your verbal diarrhea?  For all your talk about action and fools, I haven't seen your name on any arrest report.  I guess it's much easier to incite others to be arrested than it is to actually show any strength of your convictions.  Of course you probably wouldn't be allowed to have your "medicine" in jail....perhaps that's why it's much easier for you to use Corey as your puppet.

• Hey Bill,  These folks don't get it.  Their understanding of the Constitution is basically that of a person who's just taken their first 8th grade level civics class.  They have no concept of the nuances and case law that has evolved over the past ~200 years.   They believe that their black and white interpretation is the only one that matters.  Give them another 10 years or so and most of them will figure it out on their own.  There are a few like Robert Chase and Corey that will always cling to their beliefs, but they're really not interested in a functioning society anyway; just their own personal agenda.   I was down in the park on Saturday around 5:30 as the police were clearing them out...watching the kids discuss legal theory was highly entertaining...almost as entertaining as watching them try to decide to fight or flee elsewhere.  Kudos to the cops for showing remarkable restraint in the face of some really vile behavior on the part of the protesters.

• Really, I need to learn what amendment means.  Very simply it means a change in the original.  However, if your premise is that an amendment has less legal weight or force than the original document, then not only do you not posses an understanding of the law, you don't exhibit much in the way of common sense either. Try getting out of the amended clause of a contract sometime.

• You may want to figure out what amendment means. So because I have an understanding of the law, that makes me a slave? You Occutards are slaves to your paranoia. Glad I'm free of that...

• Congress shall make NO LAW...  Justify court rulings and the like all you want, no law seems pretty clear to me.  Your premise that a protest might not remain peaceful as a justification for curfew and camping laws is laughable.  Last time I checked, we are responsible for our actions not our possible actions.  That you would so willingly argue those court decisions are valid, makes you either a moron or a mental slave. And speaking of making lame assumptions...you're the king.

• Hey Wedgy: What a lame assumption. I'm unemployed, dumb ass. How 'bout you? Are you in a labor union? If not, you are a fool for joining in on this political street theater.

• Man are you a willing slave.

• Ahhh, Albert. I guess its time for a lesson. The right to assemble is NOT an absolute right. There are some restrictions on this right as there are with other rights. The right to assemble is not as strongly protected by the government as other rights such as the freedom of speech. This is because groups that assemble often do so--not with just speech, but some kind of conduct such as picketing, protesting, marching, or gathering in a park--which may disrupt the peace. Thus, the courts have ruled that although it is the responsibility of the government to protect the people's right to assemble, it is also the government's responsibility to keep the peace. Because of this, the courts have allowed governments to make reasonable restrictions on the time, place, and manner of these assemblies. The government may place restrictions on the right to assemble that will maintain law and order, facilitate traffic, protect private property, and reduce traffic. You may want to read up a bit. Occutards seem very confused on this matter.

• Germany is run by the jews, being a Nazi in Germany is actually a serious crime.

• They already are, during the day they lay still on the ground wrapped in tarps like beef and bean burritos.

• What is the issue? A court room is not a public place, the judge can tell them to do/not do anything.

• They aren't attacking anyone, they are enforcing the laws being broken by the homeless/protestors.

• Try following the news closely for a few months.

• OWS is just a name. The rage is shifting. The movement is much larger than those sleeping in parks.

• Would you prefer us to stand as cows waiting for slaughter?

• Yah chase in the past you would say veiled things like Germans. I called you out on it and you denied saying nazi and now your colors are showing. It is a matter of time before you escalate things. Nobody is listening to your fake ass movement so now you guys are left with violence.

• I was there.  Corey insisted on his right to stand on a path in Civic Center Park, which is closed to motor vehicles, and he did nothing to prevent that cop from leaving.  Better that an ocean of blood be spilled in defense of American Liberty than that Corey Donahue be convicted of a felony for his conduct today. You don't mention the fact that the police had just stormed and stolen a small folding table with political literature on it (not encumbering the sidewalk) -- a clear violation of protesters' First Amendment rights and one more in a long series of police provocations.

• Occupy Wall Street and its allied movements around the country are more than a walk in the park. They are most likely the start of a new era in America. Historians have noted that American politics moves in long swings. We are at the end of the 30-year Reagan era, a period that has culminated in soaring income for the top 1 percent and crushing unemployment or income stagnation for much of the rest. The overarching challenge of the coming years is to restore prosperity and power for the 99 percent. Thirty years ago, a newly elected Ronald Reagan made a fateful judgment: “Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.” Taxes for the rich were slashed, as were outlays on public services and investments as a share of national income. Only the military and a few big transfer programs like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and veterans’ benefits were exempted from the squeeze. Reagan’s was a fateful misdiagnosis. He completely overlooked the real issue — the rise of global competition in the information age — and fought a bogeyman, the government. Decades on, America pays the price of that misdiagnosis, with a nation singularly unprepared to face the global economic, energy and environmental challenges of our time. Washington still channels Reaganomics. The federal budget for nonsecurity discretionary outlays — categories like highways and rail, education, job training, research and development, the judiciary, NASA, environmental protection, energy, the I.R.S. and more — was cut from more than 5 percent of gross domestic product at the end of the 1970s to around half of that today. With the budget caps enacted in the August agreement, domestic discretionary spending would decline to less than 2 percent of G.D.P. by the end of the decade, according to the White House. Government would die by fiscal asphyxiation. Both parties have joined in crippling the government in response to the demands of their wealthy campaign contributors, who above all else insist on keeping low tax rates on capital gains, top incomes, estates and corporate profits. Corporate taxes as a share of national income are at the lowest levels in recent history. Rich households take home the greatest share of income since the Great Depression. Twice before in American history, powerful corporate interests dominated Washington and brought America to a state of unacceptable inequality, instability and corruption. Both times a social and political movement arose to restore democracy and shared prosperity. More... http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/the_new_progressive_era_ows_signals_the_end_of_the_reagan_era/

• Meanwhile... corrupt wall street health care marches on based up on lies and the idiots that eat them up. EDUCATE YOURSELVES.  You are being LIED TO and I CAN PROVE IT. Watch.  Learn.  Evolve. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QwX_soZ1GI No matter what side of the political fence you are on, you should watch this interview in its entirety if you love America and spread it everywhere to educate others as well. If you don't love America, then you are useless anyway, so don't bother watching the interview.

• > Strict pacifism enables and protects the State's violence. I wouldn't be surprised if you were with the cops saying stupid shit like that.  You are either a misinformed idiot or a provocateur.  Either way, fuck off.

• First Amendment-  Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances......................................................................................................................................................Fourteenth Amendment- Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws............................................................................ So states are prohibited from restricting, and enforcing any state, city law that infringes on freedom of speech, and assembly. For example, telling hundreds or thousands of people you cant be in a park after closing, or you can only stand on the sidewalk.... Looks pretty clear to me... they cant enforce any law that restricts or takes away a persons Constitutional Rights!!!! Because the Constitution is the Supreme law of the land, and supersedes all state, city laws that infringe on our PROTECTED CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.These judges are violating the Constitution..... All charges should be dropped.. based on multiple Constitutional protections.

• > These idiotic fucks can't even form a coherent message. >  Hey Rob-how's the job search going Ah, there you are.  On target with talking points developed by others in the right wing media who shat them down from above into your willing, moronic mouth only to be regurgitated unthinkingly upon others. I see, no one who supports the OWS movement has a job or wants a job.  I guess those of us who have jobs and are most likely more successful than an idiot like you are hallucinating our employment.  Or, maybe you're simply a delusional asshole?  Yep, I'll go with that. Have you ever tried thinking for yourself or is that just too much for your pea-brain?

• Frank Miller is a cartoonist, right?  I guess that makes him an expert on OWS and we should all listen to him.  You know, because he likes drawing cartoons and stuff.

• Robert, Every one of your messages ends in calling some else a fool, or an idiot, or some other nifty put down. And, of course, who can forget your dismissive of "Begone!" What is it like living as a living God, who is above all others? BTW: Corey did get arrested today. He apparently tried to block a cop car from exiting Civic Center park. He will now, apparently, finally get that felony charge he has, for oh so long, been aiming to get. Enjoy. The irony is this genius tried to block the police from exiting the very place where you all did not want them.  What a dolt and a tool.

• Geez, you occutards are a paranoid bunch.

• Of course they don't have anything. These idiotic fucks can't even form a coherent message. Hey Rob-how's the job search going, what with all of your time being spent being under a tarp in a park. Way to be productive, asshat.

• Highest Bond rate yet; indeed for Italy. Italy is close to default. What is to be done about Greece? The Euro is in trouble. The Super Committee will not come to an agreement. China demands the United States AAA Bond rating reduced to junk. All the talk of reforming the I.R.S. for the last decade is just that: talk. Peace has never lasted longer than 40 years. The 18 countries involved in the f-35 development cannot afford the jet. The f-35 will be cancelled. There will be wars. What about the Post Office? Doom!

• Now there is an orginal insult. If you've got nothing, call 'em a Nazi or a racist. You got NOTHING. Grow up and get a job Robbie.

• Let's see what Frank Miller thinks of these "revolutionaries": http://frankmillerink.com/2011/11/anarchy

• Falsehood, if walking around the downtown exercising the freedom to assemble and to speak were a dangerously provocative act, then Corey would be a radical -- it isn't, and your idiotic assumption to the contrary and total ignorance of events mark you as a fool.

• You Nazis and your forebears should have stayed in Germany. The only violence or damage is that threatened by our criminal police department!

• Alex Martinez has demonstrated his unfitness to be Manager of Public Safety almost immediately upon assuming the job.  The DPD is a criminal gang which is being directed to attempt to suppress protesters' First Amendment rights.  I have observed some of their threats and excesses, but many of those arrested are victims of serious crimes committed by the police and those who control them. We should loudly and publicly demand that the Mayor resign every day until he leaves office. P.S. Mr. Martinez, your job is not to determine how existing laws may be bent to suit the pleasure of your boss.  It seems impossible that you are oblivious of the mass violation of civil rights by the DPD and Sheriff's Department over the course of the past six weeks, but your failure to discharge your responsibility to protect citizens' constitutional rights is abject.  You and the DPD are sowing the seeds for ever more disaffection, distrust and hostility.  Within a matter of ten days you have deepened the divide between the People of Denver and their police force immeasurably.  Resign!

• The OWS are out numbered, outwitted, and out of their spoiled little minds. Won't they be surprised at what happens to them when they get violent in the spring?

• After observing what has happened at these protests in respect to police violence and comparing it to the 6 or so anti-police protests that have happened in the last year and a half, I think I have some advice for Occupy Denver: Show some spine when the pigs show up. In the six illegal street marches, police property has been destroyed, banks have had their windows broken, cops were physically challenged and even beaten back, and someone was accused of "throwing a bomb" at cops. There have been less than ten arrests total for all six of those protests, and if you've observed those marches' militancy, it's easy to see why. At Occupy Denver, when the cops show up, the peace police show up and start rooting for the cops. The few that want to make a non-violent stand are beaten with nothing but a few whimpers, perhaps a thrown empty water bottle, from the rest of the crowd. They know the Occupiers aren't going to do anything. There won't be any resistance. They beat people, shoot at people with a variety of weapons, have pulled firearms, etc. They don't care about civil rights or whatever nonsense is in the Constitution. They don't care about humanity. They don't care that you are telling them, foolishly, that they are a "part of the 99%." The reason they don't pull that shit at the anti-cop marches is because THEY KNOW there will be consequences. Every arrest they have ever made at those marches was a fight to get, and they've attempted to make arrests several times only to be foiled and fought off. Chemical weapons will only escalate already volatile situations. Tactically, those protests take defensive precautions, wear masks, dress similar, and wrap themselves in banners. When the cops won't allow peaceful protest, the consequence is a riot. The relationship Denver citizens have with its police department is an abusive one. In order to stop that abuse, there has to be consequences. Strict pacifism enables and protects the State's violence. Sometimes real, palpable resistance is the only way to make things better. Excuse those of us who have realized this already and choose to defend ourselves and our communities.

• corey has been arrested at least twice

• I would like to hear more on the issue of banning people and reporters from taking notes in court.

• Whats sad is that the instigators, the ones who egg on the others to do things they normally wouldn't do, don't appear to have been arrested. Your 'leaders' appear to be quite the cowards. And yes, I am talking about you, Corey Donahue.

• People, please do me a favor. Please call the Denver Police Department Internal Affairs Division and leave them a message telling them to STOP ATTACKING UNARMED CIVILIANS who are exercising their constitutional rights in a peaceful manner! This is DISGUSTING. Yesterday they shot rubber bullets and wouldn't allow people to help a protestor who had been knocked to the ground. Please call, it will only take a minute and will feel surprisingly good. The number is: 720.913.6019.

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