Occupy Denver protesters want their dog-and-leader to meet with Governor Hickenlooper

For some reason my comment did not post as a reply-please see the post I made referring to the separation of powers and how Federalism works in a nutshell.  The dogcatcher can't change fiscal policy, and Ben Bernanke doesn't write tickets for dog at large. 

To be clear, that was a small group that danced on the flag.

Not only was it a small group, but the vast majority of the occupation that was around disagreed with the action and were yelling at the dancers about it.

Despite the majority disagreement with the action, there was little that could be done beyond voicing to the few dancers the disagreement.  Had the occupation elected to attempt to physically stop or remove the dancers, they would risk possible arrest for assault and possibly else.  Lets recall here, that even after 3 raids by riot/swat police, with two occasions where the occupation faced not only hits from batons, but also pepper spray bullets being shot and else, they continued to essentially remain non-violent as well as non-physical.If they follow such accords in such conditions, what on earth would make one think that they'd not only risk arrest, but get physical over a small band of idiots that carried out an action for simply a couple minutes.

Actually, best part, the people dancing on the flag on Veteran's Day weren't actually the homeless drunks!

"... as this sad group of homeless and drunks did this last weekend" -- you are a liar!

Look, Al, I'm on your side. I've been at the protests every Saturday and have dropped off supplies several times. I've dedicated the past 15 years of my life to activism, social change, and radical politics.

I don't know you or Corey, but I've seen the way those that sleep overnight have been presenting themselves. Where you all are missing the boat here is it doesn't matter what you "are" in debates like these. It only matters how you are "perceived."

Who's to tell a homeless man who is clean, in decent clothes, clean-shaven, and well-mannered from anyone else? And for that matter, if a person acts homeless, looks homeless, and hangs out where homeless hang out, what are people going to think? If we want an audience with City Council and Congress, we must look like City Councilmen and Congressmen. People are prejudiced toward others that they think are like them. Would John Hickenlooper put on thermal coveralls and a hoodie and sleep on the sidewalk under a tarp in the winter?

Control the imagery of the movement and control the message.

Robert, quit trying to disguise your pot addiction as "medicine", put down the thesaurus, and get a grip on reality.  While the New York occupation might actually have a tiny chance of making a difference, you are supporting a group of homeless alcoholics who actually believe a valid way of making a point is to sign a dog's name on a request to see the Governor. 

If you believe in the cause, you need to do everything possible to disband this little encampment and start over from scratch.   Do it before the real cold hits and someone gets seriously injured. Playtime is over.  

Sometimes dots .... are just dots and not a conspiracy. Some people use them instead of periods or semi colons. Try focusing on what he said and not what he didn't say. By the way bullhorn, I support occupy denver but I will be the first to celebrate when a jackhole sporting a mega phone gets silenced. Don't infringe on the rights of those around you. Only dicks own bullhorns.

You obviously identify with Governor Hypocrite -- disgusting!

The point in addressing the Gov with a bullhorn is to compel him to listen.

You sound far more like an anonymous consumer than any sort of citizen, and I do not give a damn what you think of the use of a bullhorn -- get it?

P.S.  I don't even use a bullhorn very often.  I am hoping that other people will follow him around and yell at him and save me the trouble -- I'd prefer to save my voice for other things.

Of course, the Governor is a servant of the people.  Remember when we all voted against speaking with the Governor as part of the Occupy Colorado Springs/Pueblo/Denver group?  There, the Governor had done what I would have expected him to do-he made time to meet with representatives of a social movement that represented constituents from several regions of the STATE of Colorado-of which Hickenlooper is Chief Executive. 

Do you really think that the Governor should meet at any random time with whomever arrives at his office yelling the loudest?  How would any of the State's business-which is ostensibly the people's business-get done?  I'm not saying the Governor is a superior entity, I'm saying that ideally he represents all the citizens of the state.  As we all know, he's done a piss-poor job of executing those duties, and has failed completely to protect the rights of his constituents as they relate to the Constitutionally protected right of free expression.  

What I'm saying is that I feel we need to be more realistic in choosing tactics, and that we need to pick the tactics most likely to succeed.

Very well, Robert-I'm Rob.  I work with you on one of OD's many committees.  We've met, right?  When we assert that someone is wrong, we normally provide some evidence, or at least a cogent argument in support of our position.  For reference, please see my post at the bottom of this thread.