Occupy Denver: Three new charges last night include triple arrestee Corey Donahue

Corey Donahue participates in Occupy Denver, but he does not represent the general assembly or lead the movement (Shelby does).  Occupy Denver does not control what Corey chooses to do, for good or ill.  Standing in front of a police car is not inciting a riot, no threat of any kind was made to the officer, onlookers did not touch her vehicle, and Corey said nothing inciteful -- Corey has been falsely charged, but that would seem to be Denver's modus operandi, and no one in the media cares.  His bail will deplete the resources available, and his lawyer should ask the Court to expedite his case so that Morrissey's deliberately false charges can be lessened.  We would all be far better off were the District Attorney and DPD administration in jail rather than Corey Donahue.

First rule of war: Don't get captured. Corey could have easily avoided this arrest, but he chose to go to jail instead. Really shows lack of good strategy on OD's part. Can't fight for democracy with the troops locked up. The courts are stacked against us worse than anything.

You're welcome.

I've been debating this for awhile.  Perhaps I will.  Thanks for the Info.

If American patriots had channeled their anger at not being represented in parliament into efforts at lawful reform instead of insurrection, much conflict and violence would have been avoided.  Do bear in mind that there has been vanishingly little violence or destruction associated with Occupy Denver, other than that perpetrated by the DPD.

Since you claim to be interested in what is going on, why not come down and observe it directly?  Talk to some of the participants or observe a general assembly (3pm & 7pm, though this might not be so very edifying).  I would be glad to try to answer your questions.

Robert ChaseColorado Coalition for Patients and Caregivers(720) 213-6497

Oh, I see.  Well stay safe.  My mind turns to the Bonus Army incident.  Please live to protest another day!

It wouldn't be an occupation if they left. Occupy means you stay. What you are talking about is a daily protest, not an occupation.

You think that's cant?  I say it's felicitous!

Ha, ha.  Any one of the problems remaining unsolved in mathematics is at least a formidable challenge to the very smartest mathematicians -- I have only a BA and I am not one of those.

Like talk, cant is not quantified -- I would say that referring to your fellow citizens as "sub-human filth" would qualify.

While it is true that protesters have come up with a variety of slogans, and that some are considerably more felicitous than others, I have not seen any anti-Semitic ones.

Try putting your mind to good use Robert.

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I didn't ask what it means.  I already looked that up.  The question was, "What constituted an adamantine cant in your mind?"

No, mathematics.

"cant" is short enough, if unfamiliar to many readers -- for their benefit:

cant(cant)Pronunciation:/kant/ noun1 hypocritical and sanctimonious talk, typically of a moral, religious, or political nature

Wow, big words, "adamantine cant."  Liberal Arts major?

BTW, perhaps you could educate me. What constituted an adamantine cant in your mind?

Against such adamantine cant, how could common sense avail?

P.S.  I have left the Collaborationist Party and plan to vote socialist in 2012 -- is it part of Obama's secret plan to move so far to the political Right that he loses lifelong members of his party?  I believe that you are a political psychotic.

I've been there for a couple of years, so I can't comment on the decades remark.  I do know that in the past 12 months, until recently, it has been getting better.  Events during the summer like the Tuesday and Thursday food truck gatherings, big air, and other things like that help to keep the druggies and thugs out.  My only regret is that the city tolerated that as long as they did...it was pretty disgraceful honestly.

Unfortunately, the occupiers aren't much better.  While not being violent, they encouraged the return of an unwelcome element.  The druggies might have been bad, but at least I never smelled urine on the sidewalk.  Last Saturday night before the cleanup, several of the sleeping burritos on the sidewalk reeked of it.

So, you observe, but do not see, you listen, but do not hear.

It is obvious even to some people who have never been downtown that the Mayor is using these absurd claims about protesters' effect on their surroundings as a pretext to move against them, but you have the temerity to advance them knowing how little substance they have -- the worst protesters have done is crowd the sidewalks on Broadway.  You and the media can insinuate all the nonsense you want about violence or damage, but that is all being done by people paid by the City and acting under color of the Law.

"It's obvious to anyone who walks among the protesters that they're all planning on offering resistance to the cops" -- is it your contention then that I or others have succeeded in galvanizing OD to fight the police?  You are lying again -- anytime anyone at OD contemplates even non-violent confrontation with the police, a large contingent of radical pacifists pleads for passivity (their message:  sit down, and say "shhh!").  There are any number of protesters who are willing to oppose the police, some to the limits of the Law, and others beyond it, but I have never so much as heard anyone propose violence against the police -- any struggling with the police has occurred in the heat of the moment as people sought to thwart some of their unlawful arrests.

It is difficult to deal with a large number of committed individuals, and Governor Hypocrite and Mayor Oreo have blundered badly by letting the crazies in charge of the police indulge their fantasies of anarchist incitement -- you give political cover to these assholes by lending credence to their foolish pretexts to quell lawful protest.  You may disagree with protester's politics, and you may swallow whole the City's pretext for sending hundreds of riot police and SWAT against a handful of tents or bedding along the sidewalk, but even you should be able to distinguish these from the documented intimidation of protesters lawfully exercizing First Amendment rights, false arrests, and use of excessive force -- these are happening, whether you choose to believe it or not, and whether our worthless Governor and Mayor ever pay any political price, the People of Denver are going to suffer for the reactionary fervor with which the City and State have sought to repress dissent.  We pay a far higher price for not being true to our principles than the millions of dollars we can now ill afford to spend on such a malefic program by corrupt City and State administrations which Colorado's deracinated, disengaged populace fails to hold to account.

Interesting post, NotWoofka. Thanks.

Well, if you have lived a few blocks from that location for very long, Notwooka, you must be aware that the park has been a living hell hole for decades.  You couldn't walk past there without being offered crack or weed for sale.  If you lit a cigarette even across the street you would be set upon by running "bummers".    Alot of those people are still there, and that is not the occupier's fault.  Just because they are doing the decent thing and feeding them, doesn't mean they are respoonsible for what they have always been doing there.  I have never spent much time in that park, just like most Denverites because of the way it WAS.  Now I go there as often as I can, and I feel safe there, except for wondering what sort of overreaction to tables and tents the police might have. 

Well, you see the thing is, I have seen for myself.  I live a couple of blocks away, and bike through the demonstration pretty often.  In fact I was there on Saturday between about 5 and 5:45 and was in the middle of your group when the police started to clear the park.  It's obvious to anyone who walks among the protesters that they're all planning on offering resistance to the cops...I was impressed that they were trying to make sure that everyone had the legal defense number on  them...I was offered a marker to write the number down on my arm twice.  Very cute.  

Personally, I would have liked to have seen the cops come down on you guys harder...when Corey and his little band of followers started blocking traffic on Broadway is when you guys turn from a bit of entertainment to a real public nuisance.  Once you start doing that, as well as erecting structures on the public parks and rights of way, you are no longer just engaging in harmless civil disobedience, but are trampling on the rights of the real 99% who just want to get to where they are going, and enjoy the park that their tax dollars have paid for.  

It is nice to see that the magistrates in charge of setting bail are getting tired of your little games, and are increasing bonds appropriately.  I heard several of your group talk about trying to use up all the city's resources.  I'm pretty sure that as long as your group keeps getting arrested, your legal bond fund will run out way before the city's law enforcement budget does.  

If you want to maintain your silly pretense that I somehow direct Corey Donahue to do what he does, go right ahead, but anyone who knows us knows how ridiculous that is.  I explained the truth to you but you choose to ignore it because you have an axe to grind.  Whether you want to believe it or not, there has been virtually no incitement, except to commit non-violent civil disobedience, and not much of that -- it is evident that you cannot accept that many people oppose the abuse of the police department to suppress lawful protest to the extent of being willing to stand up to them.

Each unjustified police action demonstrates (to witnesses as opposed to those who mistake corporate lies for reality) just how out-of-control the DPD is and how corrupt the newly elected leadership of our City and State really is.  The truth leaks out despite the best efforts of the corporate media, who have been reporting practically from the beginning e.g. that our numbers have been dwindling, so if one believes the nonsense on the TV and in the Post, one would expect to see hardly anyone protesting -- come down on Saturday and see for yourself!

Dude, Robert you are messed up. You go around calling obama an oreo too? You are judging a man based on the color of his skin. Not cool.

Sonny, don't you think it is presumptuous to use the name of the official spokesman of the Denver Police Department to issue threats online, or do you not care that you give verisimilitude to the narrative that our police department is run by thugs?

The interests of the Establishment (which happens to be white here) are not identical to those of people of modest means.  My interest in general is in using words that are accurate, and in the Mayor's case, if they serve to give offense, that's a bonus.  If the Mayor, his friends, and three times as many dim and reactionary other people who consider themselves liberal in outlook do not like my encapsulating his opposition to the interests of his own constituents so neatly by calling him "Mayor Oreo", they can go to the Devil.

Here is a short list of some of what I find offensive about Mayor Oreo:  his opposition to medical cannabis, his opposition to the vote of the People to make citations for cannabis our lowest law enforcement priority (citations which are issued disproportionately frequently to people of color), his pandering to business interests, his opposition to paid sick days, and his abuse of the Law and the DPD to try to suppress peaceful protest, but I am sure that more will occur to me.

Part of the reason for the crises in Colorado's leadership and in its educational system both is inattention to semantics.  I'll tell you what -- you and the rest of the Mayor's supporters can go ahead and (inaccurately) use the word "racist" to describe me and my rhetoric; for my part, I think that it's time for deep-frying Oreos.

Multiple sources call this a racist slur.  You think not, because you used it.  Libs are quick to call everyone else bigots and racists, but have trouble looking in the mirror.

Where I come from, you get your ass kicked if you call a black man an "oreo". Pretty sure the same is true in Denver. Black people think you are insulting them when you use that term. Enough of your semantic BS -- the bottom line is that people find it OFFENSIVE and you should stop saying it lest they think you are a "racist" or just an "asshole."

You imagine yourself better at arguing ad hominem than on facts -- you may be right.

You all are just amusing in your ignorant attempts to paint me as racist.  Being an Oreo depends on exactly two qualities, one of which is a desire to ingratiate oneself with the White Establishment -- the Mayor could choose not to do so, at which point he would cease to be one.

You have a lousy dictionary.  Try the O.E.D.

Welcome to the world of Robert Chase.  Paranoid, extremist, racist.

OMG, how can you think what you say is ok? Please explain to me how black people "act." The mayor is who he is independent to the color of his skin. He's not acting black our acting white, he's acting like himself. Robert Chase, you're the only one bringing the color of skin into this with the oreo remarks. You speak like a bigot but act innocent. I'm sure kkk members justify their actions just as you do.

Sorry Robert, I'm still confused.  Can you explain what it would look like if he acted more black?   Or do you consider the fact that he knows how to act in a normal civilized society to be "white"?   Seems pretty racist to me.

No, you are wrong.  Multiple sources, including the urbandictionary.com & wikipedia call this a racial slur.  I think you need some sensitivity training!

Urban dictionary says it's  "A racist slur and schoolyard name based on racist stereotypes.."

Oreo(O·re·o)Pronunciation:/ˈôrēˌō/ noun (plural Oreos)derogatory an African-American who is seen, especially by other blacks, as wishing to be part of the white establishment. racist(rac·ist)Pronunciation:/ˈrāsist/ noun a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another

You may be an ineducable moron, but I acknowledge the abilities of people of all races.

P.S.  If the Mayor were a white guy trying to act black in an attempt to ingratiate himself with black people, he could be called a reverse-Oreo.

P.P.S. I like calling Hancock an Oreo -- not only does it seem completely accurate, it also serves as a rapid test of English comprehension (which you just failed).

You are wrong -- I am not a bigot, and "Oreo" is not a racial epithet, much less a "vile racial epitaph" -- looks like you need to look up "bigot", "racial", and "epitaph" in addition to "Oreo" and "racist"!

Still sounds racist even after your explanation and looking up the definition. If he were white you wouldn't call him mayor oreo, racist!

Hancock is an Oreo Cookie (and before you call me a racist, please look up "Oreo Cookie" and "racist" in a dictionary).

The Mayor is blundering along doing what he thinks the Chamber of Commerce wants; he is all about pleasing the White Establishment (while the benefits of some patronage and endorsements trickle down to his sycophants) -- the real question is why you find so apt an application of the term offensive.

Are you surprised?  These leftists are the true bigots in our country.  Though not the case for this Dem. Mayor, they'll hurl the most vile racial epitaphs at any minority that dares to move off the Democratic plantation.