Medical marijuana: 14 percent of MMJ patient applications being held up by CDPHE

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Last month, the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment released statistics for the medical marijuana registry showing a roughly 20 percent decrease in patients from August to September.

At the time, it was anybody's guess as to what caused the drop off. But an announcement from the CDPHE may shed some light on the matter.

This week, the following was posted on the CDPHE website:

"The Registry is committed to maintaining a medical marijuana program that is of high integrity and in compliance with state laws. Over the past few months, we have been conducting an internal audit of our processes, policies, communication tools and forms.

In the normal course of administering the Medical Marijuana Registry, the Registry staff pays close attention to details of applications to ensure patients and physicians are within guidelines. If the Registry has reason to question whether a Physician Certification is in compliance, these applications may undergo additional steps in the review process. In some cases, the physician may be contacted to validate the Physician Certification and its process of completion. Currently 14 percent of applications are being delayed in review for verification of Physician Certifications."

The delay is nothing new, but the percentage of patients is -- and the numbers give us more insight into the number of overall applications. At the November 16 Board of Health meeting last year, CDPHE officials announced that roughly 3,200 patient applications were in limbo due in part because of issues with physicians' signatures. Today, CDPHE spokesman Mark Salley said that figure is up to about 4,000.

According to our (admittedly junior-high level) math skills, this means there are somewhere in the neighborhood of 28,500 total patient applications going through the system right now in one way or another. That would account for all of the roughly 26,000 patients who seemingly dropped out of the program in one month, and then some.

Presumably, about 24,500 applications aren't on hold. This volume of paperwork may explain why wait times for some people have been as long as two months.

No word on when the doctor issues will be cleared up. But Salley says the CDPHE is still waiting for physician verification on "a portion" of the above applications. Last month, officials said they hoped to have answers by the start of December. No such luck.

More from our marijuana archive: "Medical marijuana: 3,200 patient applications in limbo, may be tossed due to technicalities" ; "Medical marijuana registry drops by 26,000 patients in 3 months, says health department"

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Rene
Rene

Hurry up and get all your documents in order all looks good bla bla bla.... now you just need to wait and wait. I was in the same never ending spiral of bureaucratic BS thank god for cana-med.ca I went from the grey zone to the green :) Hopefully they will expedite the process for those of us in need.....

MMJ Timmy Top
MMJ Timmy Top

Remember, folks. Patients should not be going without their medicine, just as long as they know or find an MMJ caregiver, and truly have a doctor's recommendation. The red card is for dispensaries, and solid proof (so faith that the doctor would support you, and have your back should a case be brought to your door).

BingoBob
BingoBob

With the amount of application fees and the taxes the state receives from the marijuana dispensary's and other associated business's you would think they would want to hire enough people to make it a fast process.  

Buddhartha
Buddhartha

The only rights we have as Americans is the right to give ourselves alcohol poisoning.

Nocard
Nocard

Sent in October 5th, still nothing.  Was told to contact back on Dec 1st if I haven't heard anything by then.  Now they say to contact Dec 15th if I haven't heard anything.  This is ridiculous, what a bunch of morons at CDPHE.

Joseph, 303 Organics
Joseph, 303 Organics

for any legal patient who is stuck between the CDPHE and a hard place, feel free to contact us at http://www.303organics.com/ to see if there is anything we might be able to do for you.

Monkey
Monkey

Really, you say "donation" and then have a pricing list. Is your attorney from Cali? Good luck with all that.

Joseph, 303 Organics
Joseph, 303 Organics

not donations, suggested contributions. contributions and reimbursements to cover my costs to produce the medicinal cannabis per 1284.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

... and don't get high on your own supply ...

Joseph, 303 Organics
Joseph, 303 Organics

oi! although it never did say donations. only contributions. i did make some clarifications though. fly low, fly right and always watch your 6.

Monkey
Monkey

Made some changes did you. Still sounds funny, be careful.

High Country Caregiver
High Country Caregiver

And today on the CDPHE website, the regulations for 'Care-Givers' can be found:

http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/h...

Thanks CDPHE, why not smoke on some of this http://marijuanaphotos.co

Monkey
Monkey

Here is the new MMED tip line. Now all the dispensaries can narc each other off, should be pretty busy.http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite?...

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Heck, there are dozens of MMED violations immortalized in print in the Westword display ads alone.

Makes one wonder how many of these continuing criminal enterprises have ever consulted with a real lawyer.

High Country Caregiver
High Country Caregiver

1-855-420-HIGH to report marijuana, yes MMED we're in Colorado, um, there's lot's of weed, just wanted to call and tell you that all of you clowns can go blow each other on the way to the Volcano and report chicks with dicks be banging on my back door trying to figure out why smell so stinky

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

... best to stock up on BandAids when those who reside in Glass Castles start throwing stones at each other ...

Monkey
Monkey

Yea, caregivers can't transport weed? I think they can't read their own website, HB1284 clearly says caregivers cannot transport from a center without a waiver but if you don't get it from a center you can transport your patients weed anywhere. They should read the laws they are suppose to be following.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Perhaps it's time for conscientious Patients and Private Caregivers to BOYCOTT the optional CDPHE registry, and the MILLIONS of $$ they extort from patients for a worthless piece of paper.

A Physician's Referral is the only thing required by Amendment 20 to be afforded the legal protections of that Constitutional right.

Registration of the Physician Referral with the State thugs -- who are clearly working in concert with DOR and the Big $$ For-Profit Retail Dispensary Lobby -- is entirely OPTIONAL and does not afford any additional legal protections under Amendment 20.

All $$ paid to the State is used against the best interests of Individual Patients and Private Primary Caregivers.

.... whack !! ... thank ya' sir, may I 'ave ahnutha ?

Kathleen Chippi
Kathleen Chippi

Thanks for the link High Country.  Just read through the BS. 

I need to take the time to thank the CDPHE for again making patients and caregivers nauseous, qualifying us all for the use of mmj under the Colorado Constitution. 

As far as the decrease in registry applications---we already know that in June of 2010 there were 10,000+/month applying and in June of 2011 there were under 5,000/month. 

The Constitution does not REQUIRE most of the CDPHE new rules and regs nor does it require registration of any kind with the state. 

And to Jake:  I think it's pretty OUTRAGEOUS that MMC's owners don't tell the patients the details of how the "industry" pushed for over-regulation/demise of patients and caregivers rights.  I think it's pretty outrageouse that the MMC's have breached the patients privacy rights, granted not only in A20 but in their constitutional rights to medical care shared by ALL residents both in state and federal law. 

Jake Browne
Jake Browne

Okay, Kathleen. Let's assume you're correct and that MMC's and their lobbyists ran the show, out to screw the patients they depend on for revenue.

Why aren't the laws more favorable to MMC's in general and larger MMC's more specifically? Why hasn't the 70/30 rule gone away so they can wholesale to their hearts desire? Why aren't fees higher to drive out small MMC's?

Just doesn't make much sense.

Jake Browne
Jake Browne

Some lobbied for, some lobbied against. The argument that MMC's sat down, wrote 1284, and the legislature passed it just isn't true.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

When you fail to comprehend the politics of the industry you're involved with,you're doomed to fail.

So sad.

Donkey Hotay's Dog
Donkey Hotay's Dog

MMCs did lobby for HB1284. This fact is uncontested. They lobbied for it and got screwed by it in the end. That 's what you get for trusting  Chief Pot Clown Chris Romer.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

What's more outrageous is that you and your patient/caregiver groups were all so clueless and politically naive to have initially supported all the "tax and regulate" BS that formed the basis of the Big $$, For-Profit, Retail Dispensary explosion circa 2008.

You and Laura and other twirling hippies were duped and played as useful tools by the Big $$ Dispensary Lobby and their high $$ Lawyer-Lobbyists to unwittingly sacrifice individual Patient/Caregiver rights in favor or the ever-more exclusive Retail only model. You even spewed their self-serving for-profit rhetoric and propaganda, all against your own collective and individual self-interests.

You did all this IN SPITE of direct warnings and cautions from those with far more experience in the ugly world of real-politics.

Political Acumen = Epic FAIL!

One more time, take note: The best interests -- political, financial, legal, personal and medical -- of individual mmj patients and private individual primary caregivers as authorized by Amendment 20 are IN DIRECT CONFLICT with the political and financial interests of the Big $$ For-Profit Dispensary Lobby and their co-dependent pimps with badges and guns at the CO Dept. of REVENUE, MM EnFORCEment Division. The more they restrict and destroy the Private Caregiver - Patient model established by Amendment 20, the more $$ they both make.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

"Your [sic] the one making a fool out of yourself, Laura."

Typical illiterate bong-sucking stoner.

Legalization in Colorado WILL fail ... due to the public backlash caused by the Puerile Pot Clown Posse -- hereinafter called the  PPCP.

If you're so infatuated with "Laura", then why don't you just man-up and ask her out on a date, eh Goober?

MMIG is PIGS
MMIG is PIGS

Your the one making a fool out of yourself, Laura.

One can only guess at your motivations for suddendly posting a lot under a fake name. Personally, I assume it is because you realize your legalization attempt is going to be a failure, and knowing how you work, you are going to try to use this persona to trash the legaliziation initatitve that is going to be on the ballot.

btw: It was Robert who spilled the beans on your "activity".

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Apparently as small as your grasp on reality.

Catch a clue numbnuts, before you make a bigger fool of yourself.

MMIG is PIGS
MMIG is PIGS

Next time you try to pull such a charade I suggest you don't tell anyone about it. We are a small community after all.

The question is why are you doing this...

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

... better adjust your tinfoil hat, stoner.

MMIG is PIGS
MMIG is PIGS

@Laura - I could care less what you call me. HTH AW

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Do you prefer to be called delusional or simply insane?

Eyes
Eyes

Love it... Here Donkey, aka Laura Kriho, is referencing herself in the third party.

High Country Caregiver
High Country Caregiver

The CDPHE wants to make the caregiver-patient relationship this kind of 'package deal' where you have to be home bound, in need of all kinds of care, or I can't be your caregiver and bring you your meds...  What a crock!  Complete with a Volunteer application at the end!  And it took them a year and a half to come up with this since adding the 'care-giver' section on the CDPHE website.

To be specific, item 6:"A primary caregiver shall have a copy of his/her patient’s registration card available on his/her person at all times when in possession of marijuana. The caregiver must produce a copy of the card or a list of patients’ registry identification numbers to law enforcement officers upon request."

Are they talking about the same card that says "Do Not Copy" on it? If law enforcement even mentions the word marijuana or anything about cards, just politely ask if "you are under arrest"? If they don't immediately answer YES, walk away and show them nothing. Marijuana is between you and your caregiver and no one else, definately not the pot police! You are under no obligation to show the authorities any paperwork, or anything that is in your car or on your person unless you are under arrest! If they insist on asking if you have a mmj card, just refuse to answer and go back to "Am I under arrest?"

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

... and abandoned by the MMJ Pot Clowns and Industry mouthpieces faster than a red-headed love-child at a Republican convention.

How many industry players have even sent him some commissary $$ for canned tuna ?

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Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Wonder if that's what Chris Bartkowicz was thinking when he used that quote in his first and last TV interview.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

.... We're "Living the Dream Now", Baby ! ...

High Country Caregiver
High Country Caregiver

Hotay, look at how easy it is to get your card, just go to the doc, complain of earache or headache, and bam! This 7 News clip shows the investigation:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...  Welcome to Colorado doper paradise!  We're in the money!

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Excellent advice, HCC

It can also be a direct violation of HIPAA for a primary caregiver to disclose the medical status/history of any patient to a 3rd party -- the cops -- without prior written authorization from the patient themselves.

And no sane patient should ever authorize the 3rd party disclosure of their federally felonious use of marijuana.

Failure to comply with HIPAA can result in civil and criminal penalties (42 USC § 1320d-5)

Jason Lauve
Jason Lauve

This is part of Amendment 20 that many people forget about; please make sure to read all the way to the end.  If you haven't read Amendment 20 in its entirety, please make sure you take the time and do so.

0-4-287 - ARTICLE XVIII Section 14.(2)(d) Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions, no person, including a patient or primary care-giver, shall be entitled to the protection of this section for his or her acquisition, possession, manufacture, production, use, sale, distribution, dispensing, or transportation of marijuana for any use other than medical use.

Bob Smith
Bob Smith

Oh yeah, they're "conducting an internal audit of our processes, policies, communication tools and forms" all right. The form for returning applications was revised on Nov 17th 2011; all they did was remove a person's name. Maybe the bosses should have the peons working on processing applications instead of busy work.

Get some Drug Warriors to design a bureaucracy to license people to USE drugs and what you get is paperwork that has to meet the most literal letter of any law that might ever be applicable. In other words, " the Registry staff pays close attention to details of applications to ensure patients and physicians are within guidelines."

If patients are suffering because of deliberate bureaucratic delays aren't doctors in the MMR's CDPHE hierarchy guilty of malpractice?

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

... not surprising given how many of the clueless stoners actually BEGGED the Government to "Tax and Regulate" their favorite recreational "medicine".

You wanted Government "REGULATION" ... you got it !!

You wanted Government "TAXES" ... upon agriculture and/or medicine which is normally exempt from sales tax in Colorado! .... you got it !!

Mission Accomplished!

Stay the Course! ... onward through the Fog !

gary420
gary420

i followed all the rule and got my card i three weeks,thanks CDPHE

Madfoxeee
Madfoxeee

I followed all the rules as well and it's going on 4 mos now. You were just lucky your card wasn't pulled for an audit

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