F*ck the Police march: No evidence of urine-filled balloons, DPD says

WScott84

Remove the teachings of Christ from a generation and this is what you get. A generation with respect, and generation without forgiveness, a generation without kindness, compassion, and self control.

Still Christ is bigger than all this, he will forgive and teach anyone who would dedicate their life to him.

Glockshot410

You place a balloon on the hole for your bong and blow air into it and then you have bongwater filled balloons!! Actually really easy and you dont even have to blow hard!!

the denver pup

hey west ward if you guys are interested i i know one of the kids at the ftp rally that is a cops son that was there protesting agents police brutality that got beat bye the DPD and all he was doing was holding a sign i would know cause i was walking the dog. if you are interested message me on twitter at Denver dog

Not a fan

I am so sick of these Occupy Denver children. I started out supporting them. They should go should down another homeless memorial. That's kind of people you're dealing talking about.

Bob Smith

Chief White says he wants to eliminate one level of command (City Council Committee hearing on this at 130 today). I suggest Lieutenant; he can start by getting rid of this incompetent, deliberately deceptive, passive-aggressive jerk. Do something positive with him, like give him a baton, pepper spray and cigar and send him out to beat up women.

I wonder if he's the one who gave the lying figures on redlight radar to Bolton?

Guesto

In the late 50s , early 60s Hells Angels and other Biker Gangs would shut shit down, because they really did OUTNUMBER the police, all of whom were not taking any meth either.

Meth, Motorcycles, and Military training. That's why Black gangs in the Bronx wore swastikas on their coats, to pay homage to the Angels.

I doubt the Government psy-op OWS or OD could really do anything like that.

The Crips probably could, or any other well organized street gang in the USA.

Robert Chase

Michael, these updates really should be separate posts -- this smacks of the anti-journalistic practices of the DP. It would suffice to draw a line between comments on the original post and those on the update, and to explicitly label the two sections as appertaining to their respective posts.

Thank-you for your follow-up, but it is already firmly established in who-knows-how-many Good Germans of Denver's heads that crazed radicals throw urine and feces at our fine police. The DPD has been disseminating this disinformation for four years (or did the practice begin even before the lead-up to the DNC in 2008?) -- so much for the professionalism of the DPD!

Readers, please join me in demanding of Chief White that he find and punish those officers who have been abusing official channels of communication for the purposes of political propaganda with impunity.

With regard to the firecrackers, why weren't protesters charged with attempted second-degree murder of the police for setting them off? This is what the criminal conspiracy between District Attorney Mitch Morrissey and the DPD did last summer to Amelia Nicol (see: http://www.westword.com/2011-0....

Michael Roberts

Thanks, as always, for sharing your thoughts, Robert.

Scott Greene

So Michael the girl being arressted in the pictures near the end may look dangerous but she is only a minor and shouldnt be shown. Just sayin

Light Rail Tattler

If the police did in fact tell these obstructionists to get out of the street, the police are making progress, way to go Denver Police.

Denver is a very corrupt city. Please Google: RTD Light Rail Train Derailment

Robert Chase

I wish that you would lay out a (much) more coherent case against RTD than you have, preferably in the context of discussing an article about RTD.

Light Rail Tattler

What it is I was hit by a Light Rail Train that ran a red light while riding my bicycle.The police claim through City Attorney advice they have no jurisdiction over Light Rail because it rides on tracks and wires. But the Department of Public Works gave the right of way to RTD Light Rail on existing streets where there use to be additional traffic lanes and parking meters. The Light Rail Train speeds and runs red lights, injures and kills and never pays any medical bills. When an accident occurs, the City Attorney, RTD lawyers and Media Relations Bureau of the Denver Police go to the scene of the accident and determine the traffic lights to be operating properly and that the Light Rail Train is ART (Automated Rapid Transit) and fault whoever is killed or injured to protect the City and RTD from liability and an investigation by the Federal Transit Administration.At the time of my accident John Lamb was commander of District 6.John Lamb has a history of violating my Civil Rights and I'm holding evidence against him that the FBI should look at.The City Attorney at the time was Dan Muse who was advised I was in Denver General Hospital with multi-trauma injuries and no insurance.The City is responsible for my injuries by corrupt and negligent right-of-way of a train through a densely populated downtown with no R.R. crossing signals or gates and the train operates in the street without insurance. The City is liable and RTD has no insurance on the Light Rail Train so none of my medical bills were paid and I need orthopedic surgery for a fractured clavicle price $70,000.00 I am a photographer from the old school of film. I am a master of the medium. I photographed the Light Rail Train running red lights at every signalized intersection in Denver and showed up at RTD Board hearings and D.R.C.O.G. hearings with my photographs to try and get my medical bills paid. The General Manager of RTD Light Rail and the head of Transit Police would not let me show my photographs or let me talk to anyone. They called the police on me and put the word out to left wing activists I am against Light Rail because I own General Motors and I am BIG OIL. Not true.I use to think Sonny Jackson was a good voice for the police explaining issues until I shared some photographs of the funeral of Officer Donnie assassinated by John Hickelooper's illegal immigant gang banger dishwasher to cheap to hire legal labor.On that occasion Sonny Jackson had the gaul to sit me down in front ofn a desk and renact an internal complaint I made against a police dispatcher, then went on TV at a really bad accident scene at Speer Blvd and Stout St involving a Light Rail Train and car and said: "let this be a lesson to you, don't try to beat the train" he also tried to stop me from taking photographs of the derailment. Sony Jackson is a corrupt public servant.Lt Matt Murray is new and just as big a liar as Sonny Jackson. The media has never done accurate reporting on Light Rail Train accidents her in Denver.In the Paramedics/Light Rail Train collision, it was never mentioned the paramedic suffered multi-trauma injuries by the media; they don't matter. It does not matter who you are: myself, police, paramedics if you get hit by the Light Rail Train, the city, RTD and their contractors will screw you. You become an enemy of the City and the State because you become a threat to federal funding/grants and therfore and enemy of the state.In your writings I know what you would call this: fascist, but it is not, it is public corruption and the way to deal with this is not by over throwing the government, but appointing a special prosecutor like what was done in Illinois in appointing Patrick Fitzgerald.

Please Google: RTD Light Rail Train Crash

Please Google: RTD Light Rail Train Derailment

Brian Frederick

Well, yes Robert - I am. Like Tattler said before, they're not governed by the same rules. As anyone in the industry would say - because a long long time ago - they made their own rules for rails. Now, switching your story to now saying they're running "green lights" doesn't make a whole lot of sense. He wasn't hit in his car. If you feel so strongly against being harmed by other people wouldn't your main instinct be to take care of yourself - first - and - foremost? If you fear a system this much, shouldn't you look over your shoulder first? What I'm saying is that "running a red light" isn't in any way justifiable to a system that has their own light functionality. I'm calling bullshit to your story and to your "research" because it's flawed, terribly.

And yes, I'm German - well, 4 generations ago anyways. Now I'm just from Colorado. Does that make my justification any different Robert? You always feel the need to post about Nazi this and Nazi that and all I can tell you is that it does no good. You do no good. In fact, nothing you've done - from what I've heard - does no good.

In conclusion - saying fuck the police - does no good. I commend the DPD for taking the higher road in a city where whining and complaining is the norm. We have more complaints against the police department because more people here complain than does, you know, Chicago and Los Angeles. This isn't a police state. Ever been to Egypt? Somalia? Shit even South Africa is having a hard time right now. You're allowed to have "fuck the police" marches and not get shot - I'd say it's a pretty free country.

And watch where the fuck you're going - it's a god damned train! Get out of its way!

Robert Chase

Are you seriously trying to suggest that because RTD has its own system of traffic control signals, they are not liable for trains entering intersections when vehicles in cross-traffic have a green light? You must be another Good German -- Denver is full of them!

Light Rail Tattler

I have studied and precisely filmed Light Rail Trains; hundreds of Light Rail Trains running red lights at every signalized intersection in Downtown Denver.

If the light signal is green for traffic and a Light Rail Train is speeding through the intersection at any speed and it is usually speeding 15 m.p.h. over the speed limit and the TV stations and the Westword is covering Dog Stories and you like the rest of the masses don't know what is going on then all is good according to Nine Wants To Know.

Brian Frederick

Tattler - in order to deflect confusion away from light rail operators they have their own system of 'safe' and 'stop' lights. Red lights are only for motorized traffic on the streets. They do still use colored lights for cautionary measures in a few areas, but for the most part the lights are a vertical line and a horizontal line that light up. So, they really can't be running any red lights. Just watch where you're going it's a 60 ft train coming towards you - you should be responsible for yourself.

Light Rail Tattler

The Westword should do a story on the Anthropology Student now paralyzed in Craig Hospital. I also have photographs taken with a high speed 35mm camera of the Light Rail Train running red lights at the intersection where the Anthropology Student was hit.I'm willing to do it as a special to the Westword.

Michael Roberts

Thanks for sharing your story, Tattler.

Pfherbst

These protesters have the emotional and intellectual capacity of teenagers. Whiny, complaining, bratty little teenagers. Police brutality is a horrible thing, but to say that all cops are simply extensions of the big scary government is childish and absurd. There are teachers all over the country being convicted of sexual assault of their students, but we all still recognize that this doesn't mean that ALL teachers are child molesters. For the most part, the only people who hate cops are the degenerates who know that they are guilty and have something to hide. Society needs rules and police because time and time again the people have proven that they cannot handle the responsibility of policing themselves. People who attended the "Fuck the Police" GROW UP.

commonsense

How does one fill up a water balloon with piss? Either the protesters hard really ingenious, have stored piss and used some pressurized device to balloons with it; or the Denver Post is full of shit. My bet is on the latter.

Glockshot410

You place a balloon on the hole for your bong and blow air into it and then you have bongwater filled balloons!! Actually really easy and you dont even have to blow hard!!

Michael Roberts

Thanks for the instructions, Glockshot. We're going to share them in an upcoming Comment of the Day. Thanks for posting.

Michael Roberts

Look for a followup on this issue, Common Sense. Thanks for posting.

sinic

these "rioters" need to google Greece and see how real movements speak to police brutality.moltolv's and rocks!

Dunnski

Riot gear and fully auto machine guns for a bunch of outspoken people? I support the rally and all of its groups and followers. but i will say that a bunch of stoned people running around wearing masks is more in tune to a normal day at a college in Cali than something that needs intense riot control and machine guns, are we criminals due to our want and need for our oppressed freedoms?

Irony_Tag

Same song, second (third, fourth, fifth) dance.Once again the members of the O.D. group participate in something unpopular and they claim it doesn't count because there wasn't a formal vote on the 'action'. This was pulled when they helped block 1st Avenue last shopping season, when they disrupted the memorial for the homeless, and now when they are throwing urine bombs at police.

One thing O.D. doesn't do is officially condemn any of these actions, they just participate and claim it doesn't count because there wasn't an 'official' vote.

prado

I don't really understand why Occupy Denver needs to condemn this action when they've clearly stated that it was neither approved or organized by OD? I think it's pretty safe to say that some who involve themselves with OD are also involved with other social action groups around town.

If any of the protesters are officially registered as a Democrat or Republican, should the state parties have to issue a condemnation because one of their "members" individually made a decision to participate in something that the organization didn't endorse?

Robert Chase

You and yours are determined to assign responsibility to Occupy even though the facts contradict you. From http://occupydenver.org/a-corr... (for the benefit of the tense-challenged, this was posted 2/24): "The “F*ck the Police March” being planned for Saturday, February 25th, is not an Occupy Denver event. There is a very clear distinction between what is an Occupy Denver event and what is not. Only events that are ratified by our General Assembly are considered Occupy Denver events, and Occupy Denver’s General Assembly never decided on or even discussed supporting this action.". Few if any of those who attend the GA participated in the march. None of this makes a particle of difference to you -- I am sure that you will keep on lying!