Legalize 2012 on marijuana initiative, Regulate act's signature shortfall

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Laura Kriho.
On Friday, the Secretary of State's Office noted that the Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol Act had fallen 2,409 signatures shy of ballot approval. Given the resources available to the Regulate folks, whose measure will be known as Initiative 30 if the shortfall can be cured in the next week plus, this turn suggests big challenges for the grassroots Legalize 2012 effort to win approval for a marijuana re-legalization proposal. What's proponent Laura Kriho's take?

"Whether or not we have the resources never stopped us from doing what is right," she says.

What are the latest developments for Legalize 2012's offering?

"We submitted it to the legislative council on Thursday," she notes, "and we have a hearing on February 16. They'll give us input on the language and whether or not what we've written expresses our intent, and give feedback on ways to change it to make it clearer. If we make changes that are just based on their comments, we don't have to restart the process. But if we make substantial changes, we have to resubmit it to the legislative council."

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Regulate proponent Mason Tvert.
Once these steps have been taken, the initiative will be sent to the title board, whose approval triggers petitioning. But in advance of this process, Legalize 2012 has launched what it's calling a virtual petition; to access it, click here. Supporters who fill out the form will be contacted once signature collection begins in earnest, thereby giving Legalize 2012 a jump-start.

Kriho points out that the act, whose language was vetted by a committee that mingles prominent marijuana-scene figures such as Dr. Robert Melamede and Danyel S. Joffe with the likes of Colorado Green Party's Victor Forsythe and Libertarian Party of Boulder County's Ralph Shnelvar, now features a number of sections intended to address the conflict between state and federal law. For example, "we say the attorney general is required to file lawsuits against the feds for intervention until the feds cease and desist their activities to enforce federal law."

By the way, the office of Colorado Attorney General John Suthers is extremely dubious about such a mandate. We'll address these concerns in a separate post.

Regarding the Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol Act, Kriho speculates that the amount of money spent to collect signatures may be higher than for any previous Colorado initiative. While this claim is extremely difficult to confirm, there's no question the act's backers have had considerable funds at their disposal. And yet around 80,000 signatures collected by volunteers and paid petitioners were deemed invalid -- nearly 50 percent of the total.

Those are daunting figures, but Kriho is philosophical about them. In relation to petitioning, "we're just going to take it as it goes," she maintains. "The initiative we've written is our ideal initiative -- where we want to end up at. And now that we have it written, we just have to put the pieces together to get us where we want to go. And we've had a lot of support so far." According to her, people who've compared both proposals overwhelming favor the one by Legalize 2012 -- and she hopes that if the Regulate initiative falters, its supporters will line up behind the Re-legalization act

Look below to read the latest language.

Cannabis Re-legalization Act of 2012: Submitted Language

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Legalize2012.com
Legalize2012.com

The interesting thing about the argument between Jaded and Donkey_Hotay is how I30 supporters like Jaded seem to only favor "legalization" for a handful of people. When I30 supporters call marijuana providers "illegal drug dealers", how can they really be for full legalization? I30 takes the whole medical marijuana/HB1284 regulatory nightmare and makes it apply to all cannabis users in the state. This will perpetuate the "good pot smokers" vs "bad pot smokers" mentality that we see very clearly in Jaded's posts. Having "good pot smokers" create a funding source for the Dept. of Revenue pot cops to put the "bad pot smokers" in jail, as I30 does, is not really a "baby-step" towards full legalization, is it? At what point do I30 supporters stop funding law enforcement and start standing up for everyone's civil rights?

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Marijuana Legalization Pioneer Is Against Proposed Ballot Initiative to Regulate and Tax Pot Shops in California

That's right, Dennis Peron, the activist who co-authored the 1996 ballot initiative that gave you sick people the right to legally buy-and-toke, isn't feeling this latest legislation. 

http://blogs.laweekly.com/info... 

Phillip Barton
Phillip Barton

Great job CTI : ) I hope you get the Press & money behind this.

Jaded
Jaded

Yes to all pro marijuana initiatives!  I would like to see the legalize 2012 initiative make the ballot but november is not far away and 175,000 signatures will need to be gathered then validated.  Guessing you need to average about 5,000 signature per week to make the ballot.  Seeing that I30 only averaged 3,000 signers per week it doesn't look like this initiative has a chance.  Good luck but please don't trash other pro marijuana initiatives in the process.

Gues
Gues

Assuming both measures make the ballot, will we be voting for either the Regulate bill OR the Legalize bill -- or will each measure have a separate YES / NO vote? 

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

OK, I signed the pre-petition.  The problem with the airy assertion that people who know choose Legalize 2012's language is the usual one of trying to wish the 80% of the electorate who do not use cannabis out of existence.  The fact is that the issue of cannabis-policy is not of overarching importance to virtually any of those voters.  Many people who do use cannabis do not vote, and few of even those who do are focused on ending Prohibition.  Certainly there is nothing in the results of the campaign for Initiative 30 to encourage other reformers.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

I30 will FAIL !!

... because it deserves to fail. It's a crappy piece of legislation.

Vote NO on I30 !!

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

Voters will vote for or against (or abstain from voting on) each initiative to make the ballot.  In the event that initiatives with contradictory provisions pass, the one which gets the most votes prevails on conflicting particulars (C.R.S. Title 1, Article 40, Section 123).

Legalize2012.com
Legalize2012.com

They are separate ballot issues. Should they both pass, the Cannabis Re-legalization Act has a supremacy clause (Section 22), which hopefully will negate the bad language in Init. 30Cannabis Re-legalization Act is NOT Init. 30Sign the Virtual Petition Online:http://www.Legalize2012.com/

Guest
Guest

Intiative 30 is dead !

Jaded
Jaded

guessing you hate I30 because you have a financially vested interest in dealing marijuana and I30 would not allow you to sell drugs out of your home like you have been for years.  you can still sell out of your home to medical marijuana patients.  not good enough for you?  continuing prohibition because it doesn't benefit your drug dealing business is selfish and wrong.  support all pro marijuana initiatives and give people legal access to recreational marijuana.

Jaded
Jaded

good work robert.  time to end marijuana prohibition in colorado and give recreational users of marijuana some relief every way we can.  support all pro marijuana initiatives.  yes on I30 and yes on the legalize 2012 init.  if both initiatives fail the state and us attorney generals will just use that as an excuse to squeeze the medical marijuana program even harder than recent times...failure is not an option.  end marijuana prohibition in november. 

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Now it's time to repeal HB1284 and return to the original intent and coverage of Amendment 20.

Jaded
Jaded

Yes it is.  I look forward to a pro marijuana initiative passing in november.  :D

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Sweet Jesus, somebody call a doctor! ... we've got a man down with a serious head injury.

Boy, you really have fried more than a few brain cells, haven't you?

Get some professional help, asap. Stoned, stupid and fantasizing about freaky sex with virgins ain't no way to go through life, son.

Jaded
Jaded

fail again donkey.  when you want to fuck a virgin you don't tell her what a freak you are and all the kinky stuff you want to do to her.  you wine and dine her, treat her like the virgin she is, then make sweet love to her.  when she's ready, she'll be begging you to treat her nasty.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

How you like those 'few compromises" contained in HB1284 et. seq. ?

You sound like some progeny of Vichy France.

Jaded
Jaded

i don't...caregivers can continue to operate legally under both initiatives.  i support democracy and hope both initiatives make the ballot and hope both pass.  if I30 were to pass and the legalize 2012 init to fail then it would still be a step in the right direction as far as ending marijuana prohibition is concerned.  open the door as far as the people will allow.  prohibition won't end without a few compromises...sorry...it's just the way it is.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Why do you hate "home marijuana dealers"? -- i.e. Caregivers as defined by Amendment 20

Jaded
Jaded

You're a moron.  I30 is good for recreational users, bad for home marijuana dealers...don't bring "negroes" into the argument...another pointless topic change...you really are getting desperate.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Sure ... like Jim Crow laws "expanded liberties" for Negroes.

Are you really that daft?

Jaded
Jaded

I30 expands on liberties for recreational users and does not hinder liberties of medical users.  What don't you understand?

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Catch a clue, propaganda-boy -- I30 *is* HB1284 for recreational users.

Why do you shill for the Government enFORCEment goons at the Dept. of Revenue ?

Jaded
Jaded

lol...keep changing the topic every time i kick your ass.  i did not support hb1284 and never said hb1284 expanded liberties and freedoms to marijuana users.  only a blithering idiot or a desperate drug dealer would make such outrageous accusations.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Only a blithering idiot or paid propaganda shill would claim that HB1284 et. seq. expanded liberties and freedoms to marijuana users. Do you work for Law EnFORCEment ?

Are you a beard for Matt "badges & guns" Cook ?

Jaded
Jaded

I've made up my mind and have make it abundantly clear that I support both initiatives.  I don't discriminate against any pro marijuana initiatives.  Both initiatives would expand on liberties for marijuana users so I support them both.  Why do you only support initiatives that benefit you financially?

Jaded
Jaded

What don't you get donk?  I've made up my mind and have made it abundantly clear.  I don't discriminate against any initiative that would expand on marijuana freedoms.   Both inits expand on liberties and provide relief to marijuana users so I support them both.  Why are you so narrow minded that you can only support initiatives that will benefit you financially?

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

So make up your mind stoner ... regulate marijuana LIKE alcohol?? ... or not ?

Pick a horse ... any horse ... and stay on it.

Jaded
Jaded

You sound like a moonshiner donkey.

P.S.Moonshining is illegal and moonshiners are practically extinct even though alcohol is "legal" in the usa.

Time cures all problems.  Later donk.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

What laws, taxes, regulations and limitations do Lettuce and Oregano have?

Those are EXACTLY the same that should apply to Marijuana !!

*** Legalize Marijuana Like Oregano !! ***

Vote NO on the deceptive I30 that will create a HB1284 clusterfuck, giving unlimited TAXATION and REGULATION to the same jack-booted goons at DOR who've wrecked the MMJ industry with their absurd "seed to sale" idiocy ... and who gleefully pass and share information with the Federal DEA thugs!

Jaded
Jaded

Produce, lettuce and oregano, farms have laws and regulations too.  Remember the cantaloupe at the jensen's farm?  You fight it because I30 would take money and marijuana customers from you.  It's a business decision.  You'd rather have money in your pocket from weed sales than compromise and give coloradans legal access to recreational marijuana.  selfish donkey.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

I30 isn't a "pro-marijuana" initiative.

It's a LIE and SHAM promoted by the Big $$ Dispensary criminals.

HTH.

PS -- Vote NO on deceptive I30 !!

Legalize Marijuana Like Oregano !!

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Keep kowtowing to the Government thugs with "badges and guns" at the Dept. of Revenue, you spineless sycophant.

Jaded
Jaded

keep rolling in shit donkey

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Correction = Vote NO on the bogus I30 !!

Vote YES on Legalize 2012 !!

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Nah, I roll with the vegetarian Hippie cartels ... their women are cuter.

The U$A's insatiable appetite for illegal drugs is what fuels the violence and mayhem in Mexico.

The U$A is the #1 consumer of illegal drugs in the world!

Mission accomplished !

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

Are you complicit with the murderous Mexican cartels?  For the sake of the People of Mexico, do not buy or sell cannabis imported from Mexico -- stop fueling the war which has killed tens of thousands!

Jaded
Jaded

nobody says sinsi moron.  sensi is slang for sensimilla.  man...you are a shitty drug dealer.  no wonder you lost all your customers.

http://www.urbandictionary.com...

A Sinse belongs to one of the lesser groups in school and usually has no friends.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

The word is SINsemilla -- as in "sin semilla" -- you stammering semi-literate stoner.

Jaded
Jaded

schwag     http://www.urbandictionary.com...    adj. Term used to describe low grade marijuana. This type of marijuana is usually brown, seedy, dry. The term is also used by many pot heads to describe anything that is low grade.noun. low grade marijuana

sensihttp://www.urbandictionary.com...    Sensi is short for sensimellia which means no seeds. Like in your herb.

Jaded
Jaded

schwag...priceliess!  haven't seen that shit since i fuckin fired my weed dealer.  rofl. Donkey_Hotay deals shwag!  omg...laughing it up

Jaded
Jaded

Sorry, I don't have access to shitty brown "schwag" like a drug dealer of your caliber.  Only high quality indoor sensi buds here.  Sucks to be a donkey.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Election prediction -- I30 will FAIL like a lead balloon.

Won't even get 35% of the vote.

I'll bet you a big bag of brown schwag.

Jaded
Jaded

Headline prediction in two weeks:  Initiative 30 is resurrected.  Wink

Jaded
Jaded

i don't, why are you so repetitive?

Jaded
Jaded

You sure you don't want to repeal Amendment 20 too drug dealin donk?  If I remember correctly you said you were happiest before medical marijuana laws existed and were using and selling weed illegally.  Why do you love prohibition?

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Finally, we agree ... greedy profiteering dispensary dealers are -- as you say -- "pitiful".

Thanks for playing, better luck next time.

Jaded
Jaded

that's what you're hoping for isn't it donkey?  you're a marijuana dealer profiting from prohibition.  pitiful.

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