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Medical marijuana to blame for 45 percent increase in school drug violations?

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Over the last four years, drug violations at Colorado K-12 schools have increased by roughly 45 percent.

And according to a report shared by Education News Colorado about the issue, the rise can be squarely attributed to medical marijuana dispensaries.

Though the data doesn't distinguish between marijuana and other drugs, including pharmaceuticals, the report cites "school and district officials, healthcare workers and students" as saying marijuana is the reason behind the spike.

They believe there is a shift in perception about cannabis use among students. The report alleges that because medical marijuana shops are so abundant in Colorado, the message being sent to kids is that marijuana is harmless.

"When I grew up, it was horrible if you got caught with pot," says East teacher Matt Murphy in the report. "Now there are little green medical signs everywhere. It seems healthy. We're at the front lines of this huge shift where kids think it's okay."

Oh, the horror. Maybe that's because to 32 percent of the nation, medical marijuana is okay and perfectly legal. Attitudes are also shifting toward recreational use, with nearly half the country in favor of legalization for adult use, according to some polls. Meanwhile, kids are exposed day in and day out to liquor ads and tobacco ads on television and in print telling them in more ways than one that these deadly products are acceptable.

Among some of the other points raised:

• Overall, suspensions were down 11 percent and expulsions were down 25 percent in infractions not involving drugs.

• Denver saw a 71 percent increase in drug violations referred to law enforcment. East High School violations have tripled since 2009.

• In 2010, Denver police started noting marijuana arrests separately from other drugs. That school year, the DPD made 179 arrests at 43 different elementary, middle and high schools.

• Schools with the largest increase in drug violations have "multiple medical marijuana dispensaries" within a mile.

• The report also includes a map of all schools and dispensaries around the state.

Of course, all of this misses a big point: Kids have been getting their hands on marijuana and smoking it for the last forty years or more with or without dispensaries around. I speak from experience growing up in a medical marijuana-less state.

Now, I'm not stupid enough to say that the increased availability of herb hasn't contributed somewhat to the rise. But the blame shouldn't be cast on dispensaries that have never sold to illegal minors. Rather, it belongs on dishonest people abusing the system. And that's not germane to just medical marijuana dispensaries; neither is it a recent phenomenon.

The report uses the term "shoulder tapping" to refer to underage kids standing outside a dispensary asking people to buy them weed, as if that's a new issue. It's not. Kids have been doing that for booze for much, much longer -- and are going to continue doing it.

And that's not including the thousands of purchases made by kids using fake IDs or with the assistance of careless liquor store owners or bartenders. In Boulder during 2010 alone, police used underage decoys showing their real IDs in 469 liquor-store stings, busting more than 59 stores that sold to the minors. You want to talk about a problem? Booze kills more teens each year in Colorado than cannabis has ever killed in the thousands of years humans have been using it. But do we blame the entire liquor industry for this? Hardly.

Meanwhile, as attorney Brian Vicente points out in the report, not a single illegal underage transaction has ever been reported from dispensaries -- which require a medical marijuana card to even get through the secured entrance most all shops have.

Vicente's conclusion? Students are getting marijuana the same way they have been for years: illegally.

Here's a video of East High students discussing marijuana from the Education News Colorado report.

More from our Marijuana archive: "Marijuana initiative can't force John Suthers to sue feds over enforcement, his office says."


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Denver MMJ Patient
Denver MMJ Patient

As well-noted in the article, the increase has to do with the fact of abundance, and abusers of the system. Believe it or not, the market that half of America used to get marijuana as kids(you know, the BLACK market) is still alive. Medical marijuana is not to blame.

And personally, I'd rather have my kid smoke medical marijuana here and there then be prescribed "medical" amphetamines. I think the effect of using marijuana HEAVILY at that age should be taught, in order to discourage highly habitual use. Time to change that eighties-produced marijuana film that casts a dark 'reefer madness' light on the most natural and harmless 'drug' out there.

Lawrence Herbert
Lawrence Herbert

Only a Pharmaceutical Company Floozy says ‘RECREATIONAL’ – we call it a ‘REASONABLE’ choice (80 Billion doses of Tylenol taken annually in America for “recreational uses”?Medicinal Cannabis dispensed to underage Card Holders and then redistributed amongst other inquisitive youth is a very real problem with our ‘Medical Cannabis’ Program.Alcohol regulation has been and still is a more effective framework to prevent underage consumption and over population of our Courts and Prisons.The CATF to the rescue!

Johnny Choronic59
Johnny Choronic59

If they would legalize,tax and control the sale's of cannabis like they do alcohol they wouldn't even be having this discussion!. I guess some want to stay ignorant! And let the polotican's keep using live's for game piece's.

Pete
Pete

Well, either you're closing your eyes to a situation you do now wish to acknowledge or you are not aware of the caliber of disasterindicated by the presenceof a medical dispensary in your community. Ya got trouble, my friend, right here, I say, trouble right here in Mile High City. Why sure I'm a ganja toker, certainly mighty proud I say I'm always mighty proud to say it. I consider that the hours I spend with a bong in my hand are golden. Help you cultivate horse sense and a cool head and a keen eye.

 

But just as I say, it takes judgement, brains, and maturity to score chronic in a late night bender, I say that any boob can take and shove a joint in his mouth. And they call that sloth. The first big step on the road to the depths of degradation—it starts withmedicinal wine from a teaspoon, then beer from abottle. An' the nextthing ya know, your son is tokin’back OG Kush in a pinch-back suit.

 

Friends, lemme tell you what I mean.  All weeklong your Mile High City youth'll be frittern away, I say your young men'll be frittern! Frittern away their noon time, supper time,chore time too!  Get the joint rolled, never mind gittin' dandelions pulled or the screen door patched or the beefsteakpounded.  Never mind pumpin' any water 'til your parents are caught with the cisternempty on a Saturday night and that's trouble, oh, yes we got lots and lots a' trouble. Trouble with a capital "T" and that rhymes with "P" and thatstands for pot

Guest
Guest

That school/dispensary map is a gross misrepresentation. The icons used for schools and dispensaries are the same size, but that's not the case in the real world. Schools are typically the size of a Super Walmart tens of thousands of square feet each, while dispensaries are only 500 square feet each on average. With most dispensaries you wouldn't even know they were there unless you were looking for them, and even then they're often hard to locate.

Deadseed1989
Deadseed1989

the ONLY reason i went to school, did my work, and passed was because i was so blazed! Stop tryin to blame medical cannabis and start lookin into the parenting of these children and see where the problem really is! I had kids sellin and smokin meth in my school, not THAT is a drug violation. Would you rather have yer kids smokin a plant or smokin all the deadly chemicals under yer sink before goin to school?

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

"[Is] Medical marijuana to blame for 45 percent increase in school drug violations?"

No, of course not; imputing malevolent intent to inanimate substances is irrational.

Without condoning the use of cannabis at school, policies that unreasonably keep kids out of class simply because they use cannabis must be eliminated.  Students' use of cannabis is generally inappropriate, but our present system is incapable of confronting it, and applies an extreme penalty for behavior which is all too common.  The onus in such situations must attach to parents and their children, not to schools.  The failure of public education certainly cannot be blamed on cannabis or the use of cannabis, and insinuations to the contrary on the part of the educational establishment only confirm its utter bankruptcy.

Instead of attempting to scapegoat teachers or trying to make of medical cannabis a scapegoat for students' lack of achievement, Education News needs to cover the issue of the massive ongoing conspiracy by high school administrators across Colorado to award fraudulent high school diplomas -- this elephant in the room is getting harder and harder to ignore, because the news that almost 32% of incoming freshman at Colorado colleges must enroll in remedial coursework renders absurd any confidence in our system of secondary education.

COmidnightrider45
COmidnightrider45

This reporter is immediately Suspect at the fact that we are ONLY seeing part of the picture through statistical increases. Did they provide ANY hard numbers to go with? I suspect NOT! The reason for this, is, once again, per capita statistics DO NOT bear out a problem. I suspect the clear majority, with the exception of an occasional "Cheeba Chews" story, pertains to illegal marijuana from Cartel sources and NOT medical marijuana dispensaries. Has anyone EVER seen any video yet of kids at the dispensary door begging patients to Buy for them? NOPE, just doesn't exist!

Mike
Mike

The fucking police are purposely going harder after the kids, as well as they are now charging a kid that 5 years ago woulda been a call to the parent, and no record woulda been generated! 

AnnOnaMice
AnnOnaMice

It's odd that Colorado has this increase when California has actually shown a decrease in youth use.

I also wonder how many of these cases referred to law enforcement were of kids who were LEGALLY allowed to possess according to state law, but had to be punished for only bringing weed to school in their pocket. In Colorado, people under 18 are allowed to use medical marijuana.

I'm sure if I changed the ways certain cases were reported, with no reference to a legal outcome, I could easily make my own study about cops and doughnuts, or teachers and caffeine and nicotine.

narizona
narizona

I'll be 63 in march have been smoking and growing since I was 13 . Never needed the states permision or anyone elses . What's the big deal, and God said,let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding  seed and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind whose seed is in itself upon the earth and it was so !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

What part of the Colorado Constitution Amendment 20 does NOT apply to High School Students?

Jerrad Baumann
Jerrad Baumann

The school thing aside, I think we need to stop fighting for "medical" marijuana. I'm all for legalization, I'm getting high right now for no other reason than I want to. If you don't like that, poop to you. But seriously, when I think of cannabis, of course its medicinal, but does it lose its medicinal qualities just because I call bud, no. The consumption of marijuana is a right given to me by god himself when it was created unless you think he made a mistake or something. No state can take that away, it was crap like this that made us leave England. It's a plant, one of nature's perfect foods, essential fatty oils, amino acids, good stuff. How can a country that claims to be free start declaring plants illegal, where does their authority to do that come from anyway. I never gave them permission to impose their moral code over me. All power is derived from the consent of the governed. And when I think of the word medical in relation to cannabis, it worries me. As many of you know, when beer was invented it was labeled as medicine and it eventually blew up in the industries face, it wasn't going anywhere though, this countries full of alcoholics, always has been. But cannabis is different, there is a cultural stigma still, people still believe its dangerous and if you smoke it. You will ruin your life. These people are basing their ideas off preconcieved ideas that were implanted for a lack of a better word in their head as a child. People like this, they cant really think for themselves and they dont really take an interest in politics, they just do as their told. And also when you throw medical at the beginning, we involved the FDA, who just gets a hard on when it comes to expanding their authority, a completely self-imposed authority but nonetheless. Those psychos want to control your vitamins, actually said they can be dangerous, so they need regulations. Still not as bad as the feds now wanting to control carbon dioxide but hey. Thats hilarious to me, we're gonna come to your home and see how much of a carbon footprint your leaving, and if we think its too much, you can be fined and possibly jailed and you cant live in your home until its up to our specs. Sure the big corporations can still buy carbon offsets and continue polluting, but that's not any of your business, do as your told, like those other guys. Jerrad Baumann for President by the way. I'm only 27, 28 in 4 days but as soon as I can, Lets do this.

Wes55
Wes55

Fewer than 2% of high school age pot users are caught each year, so the fact that the apprehension rate went up 45%, from 1.5% of pot smokers to 2% of pot smokers gives us no useful information about possible changes in use rate.

highmesa
highmesa

Political Propaganda at it's finest !

Jmpmk2
Jmpmk2

This article embarrassingly features every cliche justification for smoking pot there is.  Believe me, we get it.  "But alcohol this!  Cigarettes that!  Nothing has EVER gone wrong with pot!"  How about we move on to a big boy argument about why this study reveals nothing new about teenage drug use?

The one correct assertion in the article is that marijuana use among high schoolers isn't any different than it was pre-dispensary.  What's different is that there are now more ways to get CAUGHT.

Even ten years ago, when I was in high school and being exposed to drugs, prominent cell phone use was really in its nascent stages -- even in a fairly affluent neighborhood.  Yeah, many kids were getting cell phones by their junior and senior year, but they weren't used anything like they are in high schools today.  With the popularization of text messaging and photo messages, communicating (and subsequently intercepting) drug culture is easier and more prominent than it's ever been.  The technology, also having bred a society that demands immediate gratification, has surely forced more drugs being brought to schools for use or exchange.  Most security cameras, when I was in school, weren't even ON; nowadays, HD footage is cheap to buy, and cheaper to store and organize.

And the relaxed perception of adult marijuana use publicly has certainly affected what teenagers think they can get away with.  If adults are taking pot use less seriously, then why should kids perceive it the same way as before? 

I can't stand the stoner rhetoric that dominates these discussions.  If you truly want marijuana to be legal, then the community needs to learn to make cogent arguments to non-users who are indifferent to private consumption.  I'm much more concerned about domestic Cheetos sales affecting GDP than incarcerating a bunch of bros who are going to sit on a basement couch every waking hour anyway.

 

JMGill
JMGill

Seeing as your report covers the last 4 years and medical marajuana has only been legal for about 1 year it seems like someone must have been smoking some good sh*t when they decided to blame this on medical marajuana. As usual Coloradoan Republian dip sh*ts are at it again.

High Country Caregiver
High Country Caregiver

I really don't see much of a problem here.  These kids are our future and they are using cannabis to expand their minds.  I chose cannabis to have a deeper understanding of things in high school and to be able to concentrate better.  The dudes in the video seem educated and mature in their decision to incorporate cannabis into their learning plan.  Cannabis should be available to anyone old enough to work a lighter.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Have you ever been invited to a Tylenol party ??

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Utterly irrelevant.

The Federal 1000 foot rule applies from the nearest property boundaries, straight line as the crow flies, and not from the buildings themselves.

Jaded
Jaded

You're right Mike. Data sampling and statistics can be manipulated in many ways to show anything. The goverment is biased against marijuana and getting data to show what the stats they want is pretty easy. Pot was easy to get when I was a kid decades ago. Grade schoolers occasionally brought it in like you read in the papers now, teenagers would have joints in their pockets on the bus or in school. Nothing new here. We didn't have school security when I was a kid and no metal detectors. When kids are targeted more and under more scrutiny you're going to find and increase in incidences. This is common sense.

Donkey Hotay's Dog
Donkey Hotay's Dog

Just so, Mike and Matt. The increase reported was in "violations" not in actual use. The number of "violations" is controlled directly by law enforcement, so all this study shows is that enforcement of mj laws has increased. It does not show that actual use has increased.

Matt in Boulder
Matt in Boulder

Bing, Bing, Bing!  You win the "most likely to be the real answer" prize!  Let's face it, cops do not want pot to be legal.  It would take away a big part of their gravy train.  One look at NYC's marijuana arrest rate, in a city where it is against the law to arrest people for mere possession, shows how little regard for the law cops have. 

Duncan20903
Duncan20903

This is not a report of increased youth use, it's a report of more youth getting caught. Well, at least if we presume that unnamed people not privy to the actual numbers are correct that the increase in "drug" suspensions is attributable to cannabis.

Last year the Montana legislature passed a de facto repeal of that State's medicinal cannabis patient protection law. A significant part of the public propaganda from the prohibitionists promoting passage of that law was that youth use had "skyrocketed" because of the availability of medicinal cannabis. They even trotted out a teenage trollop who reported selling her body to get "medical" marijuana. Unfortunately it wasn't until about a month after the law was passed that surveys of use by Montana youth were published. These surveys proved the prohibitionists were engaged in bald faced lying in their claims that cannabis use had "skyrocketed." Youth use in Montana had fallen 2% in the 2009-2011 time period in which they claimed that it had "skyrocketed", and had fallen 4% from before the medicinal cannabis patient protection law was passed. You should never believe the hysterical rhetoric generated by prohibitionists. They've proven that they're perfectly willing to use bald faced lies and half truths as needed in their hysterical rhetoric.http://www.bozemandailychronic...

FYI Colorado is the only State in the Union which does not conduct a survey of teen use of substances on the naughty list making the State ripe for prohibitionists to use cherry picked statistics from other sources to promote their self serving propaganda. "Never let the facts get in the way of disseminating an effective piece of hysterical rhetoric" ~~ The motto of the Know Nothing prohibitionist.

High Country Caregiver
High Country Caregiver

Good to see another honest proud pot smoker who admits it's recreational and not medical bullshit.  The medical bullshit must end.  With every new piece of regulation and burden that passes I hope more and more patients, caregivers, and dispensaries realize that medical marijuana is a dead end in the fight to legalize cannabis. 

Joanie
Joanie

The low rate of people being caught is one of the main reasons why the laws will never be effective. There are not victims to pot possession crimes. rarely are pot smokers reported unless they are out being stupid.  It's easy to get away with and most pot smokers will never be caught. In the unlikely event they do get caught, most will get a slap ion the wrist.  The laws will never deter but a few from smoking pot.  Most who want to smoke it already do.

William Breathes
William Breathes

"How about we move on to a big boy argument about why this study reveals nothing new about teenage drug use?"

you must have missed the part where I said: " Kids have been getting their hands on marijuana and smoking it for the last forty years or more with or without dispensaries around. I speak from experience growing up in a medical marijuana-less state.

Now, I'm not stupid enough to say that the increased availability of herb hasn't contributed somewhat to the rise. But the blame shouldn't be cast on dispensaries that have never sold to illegal minors."

in short: nothing new to see here.

My point isn't to justify pot use with booze and tobacco use, it's to point out that this has little to do with protecting kids and seemingly a lot to do with targeting dispensaries that aren't even selling to children in the first place.

High Country Caregiver
High Country Caregiver

Medical marijuana was legalized in 2000 in Colorado. Don't be confused. House Bills 1284, 109, 1043 and a bunch of other rules that the dip shits refer to came into law 1 year ago.

Doreno
Doreno

Your logic is why America is sliding downhill quickly. Oh these junior potheads have every reason in the world to try to convince you that MMJ is the greatest aid to their intellect ... that stuff will make your ass null and void. You do pot for a couple of years, and you can't even focus on who the hell you are ... and you agree. Yeah, these high level students really know what helps them concentrate. And it looks like thy've found a good role model. Stupidest thing I've ever heard.

TKDietz
TKDietz

No way. I'm 150% for legalizing marijuana, but not for kids.  Pot does not expand your mind. A little on occasion isn't going to hurt you but most people I know who continued to be heavy pot smokers did not make anything out of their lives.  I was a pretty heavy user in high school. But school had always been easy for me. High school should be easy for most with half a brain.  I don't remember much of it at all. I smoked through college too, except when I had to study. Had to really cut down in grad school because the work was so much harder and the students I competed against were much brighter and harder working. I'm just naturally a good student and an excellent test taker, though, one of those Mensa types with a ridiculous IQ. Those I knew of more average intelligence usually didn't do well when they were heavy pot smokers.  None of us remembered much of what we learned when we were waking and baking and smoking weed all the time. 

Pot smoking is a vice and people should do it in moderation, if they do it at all.  If you think it expands your mind and it's good for you to be a heavy pot smoker, you are in serious need of having your mind expanded, and reality will do that for you as you grow older and realize that you have wasted years of your life and lack the skills and education you need to support yourself and your family. You'll see then that while plenty of successful people have smoked pot, most gave it up as they grew up or at least seriously moderated their use.

I'm an attorney. I know attorneys who smoke pot.  The only attorneys I know who are heavy pot smokers, God bless them, are losers who do crappy work and can't make a living.  I'm sure there those rare people who are functional potheads who do well despite their heavy marijuana use, but people like that are few and far between.  Most of the  "dudes in the video" who seem so smart to you will figure that out as they get older, one way or another. It's better to figure that out sooner rather than later as you will never get the years of your youth back and you will regret it if you squander them.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

So you support grade-school children and teenagers having access to marijuana, in school, and  law enforcement just needs to get off their backs ?

So noted.

ps: any luck seducing those virgins?

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

"This is not a report of increased youth use, it's a report of more youth getting caught."

Just like Blacks and Hispanics get caught more than White folk for the same crimes in the U$A.

It doesn't mean they commit more crime.

Jmpmk2
Jmpmk2

Actually, Willy, I clearly acknowledged your argument in the exerpt, "The one correct assertion in the article is that marijuana use among high schoolers isn't any different than it was pre-dispensary."

Perhaps, the ol' huff 'n puff has adversely affected your reading comprehension ability?

Realize that I accept your premise; I just reject your argument.  I think buying marijuana should be legal and as heavily taxed as alcohol, I think the farcical "medical" designation should be jettisoned, and I don't think teenage pot use is any greater today than it was when I was that age.  The rhetoric used by Team Green to argue these issues, though, is simply hilarious.

I'll say it again, if those of you who care to indulge truly want this stuff legal, you're going to have to influence not your own, but those who don't want another tax dollar spent policing, prosecuting, and incarcerating your burned out selves.

Now, I'll digress...and go home to my fully grown roommate who can't even pick up after himself.

Rosie54
Rosie54

The real danger in these scare tactics and lies being perpetuated by the prohibitionists is that, once kids see that they've been lied to about cannabis for their whole lives, they will think they are being lied to about everything. If you say cannabis is just as harmful and addictive as heroin, and the kids read "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" and finds out the truth about cannabis, the kids may very well assume that the government is lying about heroin and other harmful drugs. That's why the DARE program never worked. Kids see through the lies eventually. How about if we try a "big boy" education tactic and actually tell the kids the truth about cannabis and see if that reduces the incidence of use. Prohibition never worked for anything, espec. not with kids.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

So then, it was the Legislature's idiocy in HB1284, 109, 1043, et seq. that caused the increase in use among schoolchildren !

Time to revoke those unconstitutional laws and revert back to Amendment 20 !

Myth56
Myth56

Thanks for schooling the democrate.

Duncan20903
Duncan20903

You keep mentioning "heavy pot use" and it appears that you think that's the norm and not the exception. Moderate users can claim that its expanded their minds and I sure wouldn't presume to argue with them without having been inside their heads. Just about everything you've mentioned is also true for drinking alcohol. There is a not insubstantial number of college age men and women who use drinking alcohol to excess and moderate that use after "growing up" as you put it. I certainly don't think of my days of youthful overindulgence in cannabis as having been a waste of time. I had a lot of fun and would do it all over again given the opportunity.

I agree with you that kids shouldn't use pot or any other mind altering substance absent any true medicinal need. FWIW I also agree with the assertion that given the choice between drinking alcohol and cannabis that it's most certainly better for junior to use cannabis. But if you're against youth use of cannabis I think that the recent statistics from the "monitoring the future" surveys sponsored by the Federal government which show that drinking alcohol and smoking tobacco use among youth are at 30 year lows while their use of cannabis is at a 30 year high are very telling. These statistics demonstrate that education using facts and strict age limits can significantly reduce youth substance use, and that making stuff illegal for adults has no bearing. If you want to cut down youth use you should support re-legalization with strict regulation. The evidence supporting that assertion is overwhelming.

High Country Caregiver
High Country Caregiver

This is the Colorado marijuana party.  The purpose is getting high and having fun!  Sounds like you need an 'NA' meeting at your local church or something.

Jaded
Jaded

Keep fucking that donkey.

Jaded
Jaded

Why do you hate virgins? Bet your partner is a real slut. Poor donk. :( You deal shitty brown schwag and fuck a slut. Sucks to be the donkey.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Shouldn't you be out trying to seduce some virgins ?

Jaded
Jaded

Words of wisdom from your local drug dealers. Keep dealing brown schwag donk. HCC moves some nice mildew buds. Great work screwing the medical program guys.

joeyrockx
joeyrockx

Right so the thousands of scientific studies, millions of people, 5000 years of history, thousands of doctors, and multiple medical associations are all wrong, but you, you are correct? Sounds like you have more faith in yourself than the rest of us. Advil doesn't cure anything either, are you saying its not medical? And by the way, acceptance for medical marijuana is growing at an astronomical rate, its already above 77% nation wide. It would seem that people are tired of your song and dance, perhaps the stupidity of "reefer madness" has people fed up.

Jmpmk2
Jmpmk2

Funny, using Google, I was able to narrow down the definition of "medical" as something pertaining to treatment or healing, not coping with health problems through indifference and numbness.  Let's not pretend your pot use is the equivalent to penicillin or the polio vaccine, yeah?

Has it helped people through medical problems?  Probably, but it's not actually healing anything; therefore, it is not medical itself.  Most patrons of dispensaries are not terminally ill; they are using the drugs recreationally, and no reasonable person has a problem with that.

Once again, stoners have a hard time framing arguments.  Clear your heads and get to work improving your rhetoric, because the rest of the world is sick of listening to you babble.

joeyrockx
joeyrockx

If your trying to say marijuana has no medical value your not going to get very far. Its called "Google", use it.

Mike
Mike

Well said. Also the reasonong you use is the ONLY reason that MJ is even remotely a gateway. If MJ isn't even remotely as bad as big brother says, then Coke, or Meth must not be so bad.They really need to lay off marijuana, and utilize their resources toward something that matters!

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