Marijuana: Englewood MMCs not serving minors, but many bars, restaurants did

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U.S. Attorney John Walsh says his seizure-threat letters to medical marijuana dispensaries near schools are intended to protect kids.

But in Englewood, it appears that minors are much more likely to get illegal intoxicants from bars, restaurants and liquor stores than MMCs.

The Englewood Police Department, working in conjunction with the Colorado Department of Revenue's liquor enforcement division, recently completed a project targeting establishments that serve or sell liquor. Investigators aged eighteen to twenty visited each of the 68 Englewood businesses that fit this description and tried to buy alcohol. If they were asked for an ID, they provided one that showed them to be under 21.

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The Englewood Police impact team.
The results? Nineteen of the 68 sold booze to the minors. "That comes to something like a 28 percent violation rate," says Sergeant Christian Contos, EPD spokesman and member of the department's impact team, "which to us is very, very high. We would prefer zero violations."

The complete list of businesses that failed this test is on view below. According to Contos, "the individual who sold the alcohol to an underage person received a citation and will have to appear in our municipal court. And the store or business will have to appear before our liquor and medical marijuana licensing authority to explain the violation. They could have repercussions that range from a suspended probation type of sentence all the way up to the most extreme, revocation of their license." Some of these hearings have already taken place, he adds, while others cases will likely be considered at the panel's next meeting.

Thus far, Englewood hasn't conducted a similar operation aimed at the community's three medical marijuana dispensaries, "but we do regular business checks," Contos says, "and all of them are extremely strict. They don't even let someone in the store if they don't have a license to display."

Page down to continue reading and to see the list of cited alcohol-selling businesses.



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Jay
Jay

Sergeant Contos's quotes about being trained to know if a person is under the influence of MMJ is ironic since Englewood just passed a new law to ban MMJ from being kept in the passenger area of a vehicle.  Englewood claimed they needed another tool to prosecute drivers who may be impaired, since the cops could not tell if they were impaired or not.

Englewood is overstepping their home rule powers to place restrictions on a state issue.  These restrictions are in direct violation of Amendment 20.  I will not be surprised when they lose another major court case against the ACLU.  They lost a multimillion dollar case when they tried to destroy the Alice in Wonderland mural at Heading West.

This new laws applies to everyone passing through Englewood and can be punished with 360 days in jail and a $1000 fine.  It only bans MMJ from the passenger area .... Apparently, as long as I am still coherent, my valium and morphine pills can be in the passenger seat beside me or dribbling down my chin without consequences.

ColoradoMMJDispensaryPatient
ColoradoMMJDispensaryPatient

Very nice point. The biggest threat to the sale of marijuana from Colorado dispensaries to minors is definitely bootlegging. I believe last I saw, the number of minors with their red card is around 30. And that is parentally regulated(or is supposed to be). Therefore, the kids who decide they want marijuana, and don't have a black market dealer, would either have to ask someone they know with a red card to buy it for them, or stand in front of the dispensary and 'bootleg' - ask strangers to purchase the product for them. Bootlegging works great for alcohol. Unsuspecting drunks, with an offer of a couple of virtually free beers, are much more likely to stop and help the kid than a patient going to a Colorado dispensary for medicine. As far as store owners selling to minors, the camera equipped(by law) front check-in lobby that virtually every Colorado dispensary has between the front door and the medicine room prevents any of that activity. Unlike a bar or liquor store, where the bartender/liquor store attendant is generally your unsupervised credential checking secretary who can decide not to ID you for whatever reason.Once again, great article, keep up the good work!! 

Really_WOW
Really_WOW

The awesome thing about Ms Roach moving to a community that banned dispensaries means that the grows and dispensing is now happening throughout that community. There is probably a caregiver within 150 ft of her house and across the street from the school her kids are going to go to.

This is the road to making all hydroponic set ups including tomato and oragano will be illegal. I know that the DEA has gone into illegal grows that do produce mold. Try and explain that to the MMED when they audit you. I suppose that the anti-cannabis zealots probably think we are also using miracle grow for our ferts!!!!

Simply AMAZING the ignorance involved here.

Everybody needs to contact their representatives both state and federal and tell them to back off. We all need to unite to stop the BS!!!!!

RichDream88
RichDream88

Ya know I've always wondered ever since I was a little kid.... If drinking and driving are illegal... Why are there parking lots in bars...?  

What's to stop the local constabularies from parking within sight of a bar parking lot, recording the time of patron entry and exit into and out of a bar, and then pulling over the driver of said vehicle on reasonable suspicion and/or probable cause...? 

Shan Moore
Shan Moore

I say save the children and serve them. if it wasn't for medical marijuana my son would be dead. what about the save the children. that is what I'm trying to do save my child and the hundreds of thousands of other children that can benefit from cannabis!

GetReal
GetReal

In addition these same bars and restaurants continue to enable impaired drivers on the road.  More than ever, people continue to drive up to these places, go in, get impaired, then drive off.  Yeah, I know about the DUI laws, but they don't seem to be working.  Check you local news for more information.

Joseph, 303 Organics
Joseph, 303 Organics

So wait now. Wawawawawa waaaaaaaaait. Cannabis and all of it's history of NOT killing people and by all means actually being healthy for you, you know with the CB1 and CB2 and and he whole endocannabinoid system and all. Our symbiotic relationship with cannabis can only be beneficial. Anyway, prohibitionists beat the 'oh what about the children? who's going to save the children?' drum every chance they get and man oh man if you're ever caught with drugs and minors anything, anywhere you are done. Straight to jail, do not pass go and do not collect $200. To the pokey with ya. Nighty night, keep your butthole tight. Right? But now if I were to sell alcohol, you know, alcohol? The drug that kills what...just under 100,000 American citizens every year and is directly linked to about 70% of all homicides and domestic violence in the US. Oh Alcohol, you've been bad. But sell something addictive and deadly to minors and you get what?, a fine? loss of license? really? that's really it? No jail time? Pardon my language here but WHAT THE MOTHERFUCK!!??(face palm). Oh mama are we as a society in some serious trouble. Bless and be well all.

Josephhttp://303organics.com/  

Jake Browne
Jake Browne

I've been making this point for months, but I'm glad you got around to covering it, MR.

Thanks, as always, for weighing in. ;)

Matt in Boulder
Matt in Boulder

"They could have repercussions that range from a suspended probation type of sentence all the way up to the most extreme, revocation of their license."

Does anybody know the penalty for an MMC selling cannabis to someone without a license?  I'm pretty sure the "most extreme" penalty for the alcohol crowd is the "least extreme" penalty for MMCs. 

RichDream88
RichDream88

Michael, you hit this one out of the park.  Excellent work, my friend.  Great work by Englewood on their due diligence and by publicizing the businesses that sold alcohol to underage consumers.   Keep up the great work!

Matt in Boulder
Matt in Boulder

To answer your question, the alcohol lobby is what's stopping them.  We all know that drug cops do exactly what you described (except they target people's houses) in their efforts to stamp out the "evil weed".

Colorado Mmj Patient
Colorado Mmj Patient

"Save the children !!!" ... "Save the children!!!"43 children have died under the supervision of Colorado's child welfare system the last 5 years: http://www.denverpost.com/news...100 people die a day from prescription drug use and abuse.  100 A DAY !!!10s of thousands, including children, die or are injured in alcohol related accidents.100s of children die each year from TVs falling on them. "Save the children !!!" ... "Save the children!!!"

I just love sound bite wisdom, don't you ?  Apparently, the 10th Amendment and the people and Constitution of Colorado mean nothing if you just want to save the children.Wouldn't it be refreshing to have those who suck on the taxpayers tit demonstrate something other than ignorance ?Love the "Roach" (DEA) saying that mj has NO medical use.  Her kids will get their drugs at school like everyone else's - and like I did years before there were dispensaries to blame.David

Michael Roberts
Michael Roberts

Strong take, GetReal. We're going to make it an upcoming Comment of the Day. Congrats, and thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Mezzrow
Mezzrow

 Joseph, there has always been a lot of speculation that cannabis prohibition is in part funded and fueled by the booze industry and for very good reasons: in spite of the lies and intimidation, many people have come to realize that cannabis can serve very effectively as an exit drug; the exact opposite of the ridiculous "gateway" theory presented by fear mongers. I absolutely believe that I might very well be dead right now if I had not used cannabis to modulate and control my excessive, compulsive drinking. It has been a real godsend to have medical marijuana readily available whenever I might feel the need. Alcohol nearly destroyed my life: cannabis has helped me get it back.

So yes, I think it is safe to say that there are very good reasons the booze lobby would want to keep cannabis illegal.

Sharpshooter
Sharpshooter

Don't forget that dumbass DEA agent Barbie Roach, who doesn't want to live in a community with dispensaries. In other words, she's saying "Fuck you, Colorado. Welcome me and my family while I trample on your constitutional amendment." And what does she site as her reasoning for this callous disregard? The children. Oh yeah, and the mold, don'tcha know. Bet she has herself a beer or chardonnay every night when she gets home from a long day of opressing the citizens of this country. Hey Barbie, two words for ya: Ciudad Juarez. Not a dispensary in sight.

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

Really?  That is the problem with trying to reason backwards from your desired conclusion -- the facts don't necessarily support it.  An MMC that sells cannabis to someone without a license is not just violating DOR rules, they are violating the State's drug laws.  Which do you consider more extreme, an administrative sanction, or a felony conviction? 

GetReal
GetReal

Thanks! If Mr. King is serious about making the roads safer, maybe he should look intothat problem.  I see in the news all the time all the problems drunkscause on the roads.  While some of them my have been drinking at home orat a friend’s place, etc., I have no doubt that most recently left one of theseplaces.

Matt in Boulder
Matt in Boulder

I think you and I are saying the same thing.  I probably didn't make my original point very clear.

I believe an MMC selling cannabis to someone without a license would be facing jail time.  It seems the worst the booze dealers can get is license revocation.  I'd take that over time in the slammer any day.

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