Medical marijuana "Doomsday Map" shows possible fed targets, MMC closures

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Big map below.
In January, U.S. Attorney John Walsh sent seizure-threat letters to 23 medical marijuana dispensaries within 1,000 feet of schools -- and his office promises that a second wave of missives will follow shortly.

No new targets have been named yet, but clues about possible future actions can be found on a City of Denver document one MMJ lawyer has termed the "Doomsday Map."

Denver's Geographic Information Systems office creates the maps, but they're only available as physical printouts, not PDFs. Here's a look at the latest map, dated February 29.

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To make this information more useful, Westword has created a Medical Marijuana Map Microsite that allows users to magnify specific areas on the map by placing the cursor over them. In addition, we've included closer views of various city sections.

The map symbolizes dispensaries as pot leaves and schools as traditional red schoolhouses, with circles around the dispensaries establishing the 1,000 feet perimeter. Any circle with a schoolhouse and a pot leaf inside it means the MMC in question could be vulnerable to federal scrutiny.

Also featured on the map are daycare centers, illustrated as white diamonds with child-like figures inside them, and parks -- patches colored green. And these inclusions concern members of the medical marijuana industry. Thus far, U.S. Attorney Walsh has only focused on dispensaries near schools, but in California, as reported in this October 2011 Rolling Stone piece, the feds have also gone after MMCS in near proximity to "parks, sports fields and other places where there are a lot of children." If Walsh expands his standards to include these spots, many more dispensaries could be in trouble.

Page down to continue reading about the medical marijuana "Doomsday Map."


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Gohighnoon

Does any one else see the problem with the guise of medical marijuana? Why do I have to be sick to enjoy a naturally growing plant? No doubt, marijuana has medicinal qualities that ease the symptoms of disease, but let's be honest... Majority of consumers are not sick. It's disgusting that a plant with such information for us to continue studying, is now being perverted by marketing and misrepresentation. Where are the women in their 50's talking about their gurd in the magazines? That's not sexy enough for sales, so instead, put a 21 year old girl bud tender of the month, who claims that "how high" is her favorite movie, and pot makes her wet... stupid. Also, let's check the ORGANIC growers for validity. Why hasn't the mmed, pulled receipts from the grow stores and lets call bullshit. Is it not important to protect the sick? Colorado is the only marijuana state that is for profit, and we all know how money corrupts. Colorado is full of opportunity over experience, and kids are now acting as practicing physicians. Regulation is missing the mark, and setting up a monopoly, that removes anyone with a prior felony. If you are a tried and true gardener of 20 years, chances are you may have caught a charge in the past. But, if you have no experience at all, you can fit right in. The docs are just as disgusting. My recommendation was given to me, based on a spine tickle, as the doc laughed, "yep, you sure are messed up". Also, why does mmj not apply to mental issues. Is post traumatic stress not a issue? It's proven there are receptors in our brains, that are only triggered by cannabinols. All of this mmj circus is going to come with a price. You call it medicine, but we all know that medicine is what the pharmacies sell. So, keep up the hi jinks, pharma is just waiting to take this shit over. Alcohol is widely available with out the medicine title, why can't herb be too? We are giving to much away for a little grey zone to operate in. Wake up brothers and sisters... A wise president once said " those who give up essential liberties, to gain temporary security, deserve neither security or liberty. B Franklin 1759

123
123

The traditional religious moral idiots just want to push weed back into the hands of drug dealers and forgo the tax money that we could use for schools and instead give that money to mexican cartels

123
123

The traditional religious moral idiots just want to push weed back into the hands of drug dealers and forgo the tax money that we could use for schools and instead give that money to mexican cartels

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123

The traditional religious moral idiots just want to push weed back into the hands of drug dealers and forgo the tax money that we could use for schools and instead give that money to mexican cartels

Monkey
Monkey

"He cites stats from California that suggest a center must attract 400-600 patients in order to sustain itself, and with only 82,000 patients right now, well".......There is only 12,000 in Denver County, that's a customer base for around 24 MMCs in Denver County and about 16 MMCs in Boulder County. If the feds don't close them, the flooded market will.  

Citizen80919
Citizen80919

 This is the correct method to balance supply and demand.  Natural selection of business survival.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Full Legalization -- without restriction -- will balance the market.

**** Legalize Marijuana Like Oregano !! ****

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Why do you act like a cheese-eating surrender-monkey ?

Robert Chase
Robert Chase

 Since 80% of the population does not use cannabis and more voters support criminal penalties for the use of cannabis than there are people who use cannabis, what you urge on us is the polar opposite of a practical political program -- why is that?

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

All the detailed personal and business information collected by MMED under HB1284 will make it trivially easy for the DEA to take them out one by one -- like shooting fish in a barrel. 

Laura_Khiro's Sock Puppet
Laura_Khiro's Sock Puppet

Seeing as dispensaries advertise every where and have to register a business with a state, they wouldn't be that hard to find anyway....

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Good thing that the 8000+ Private Caregivers in Colorado don't advertise everywhere nor have to register a business with the state, eh?

Haru Larsen
Haru Larsen

you are the idiot. if you would at all know what you are talking about you would know that only patients get it. there is no excess because there is so many patients. do your homework before you bitch about something you dont even understand

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Most caregivers don't meet the prosecutorial threshold for Federal enforcement -- i.e. over 100 plants and/or 100 pounds.

Carnac
Carnac

just wait. once dispensaries are gone caregivers will be the next target. do you really think most citizens will want a grow op next door? i can see it now.....caregivers will get their address and name published in the name of public saftey.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Well then, you've just passed the qualification test for dispensary owners in Colorado ... congratulations.

And good luck.

BurningKrome
BurningKrome

 "The rest of your fabricated economic fantasy fails."Exactly how does it fail? Sounds logical to me.Maybe you'd care to elaborate with something other than a convenient blanket accusation?It seems I remember ounces going for $300-350 and eighths were $50-60 two years ago, depending on shop and/or quality. So $200 a zee wholesale sounds like a reasonable assumption. Although math be wrong, as $200 and ounce is 3200 not 3600.Not everyone has, or had, great connections to local growers. And I'm sure back in the wild days if some random, licensed caregiver showed up at a dispensary with a great grow, and the owners knew they would be able to easily sell it at a 30%-40% profit, paying $3200 a pound was not as farfetched as it may seem today.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Only a fool with no professional grower connections would have paid such wildly inflated prices for wholesale bud.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

"I own a center and paid up to $4400/lb at the outset."

Business = FAIL

Too bad you didn't have sufficient supply-side connections to be competitive in the market.

No wonder your business is struggling. Did you even have a business plan? ... other than "sell dope, hope to make $$" ??

"Look at CA. No vertical integration = $4000lbs"

Your ignorance is showing again. The CA and OR markets are completely flooded with product, have been for years. Current wholesale pricing for top-shelf indoor is ~$2000 / lb. High grade outdoor is available at ~$1600 / lb. For 50lbs or more you can knock another ~$200 off those numbers.

"I put my butt on the line with the feds."

So who's forcing you?

HipTip: Don't do the Crime if you can't do the Time.

Monkey
Monkey

I remember MMCs begging me for $1200 1/4lb even after the laws changed. I was so glad when they stopped calling, I finally was able to catch up and take on more patients. Caregivers are in super high demand right now, with all the cities banning them and their quality being commercial grade, a caregiver with skills is making more than MMCs and providing a better quality service. Those who think caregivers can only serve 5 patients have been fooled, I have never seen a waiver denied.

Jake Browne
Jake Browne

Those numbers are actually accurate. While the caregiver market did come down towards the end as they dumped whatever they could to dispensaries before the law changed, some were charging $4,000+ per pound.

Reality
Reality

I own a center and paid up to $4400/lb at the outset. We have always provided only the best meds. The fact is,  CG's gouged and continue to do so elsewhere.  Look at CA.  No vertical integration = $4000lbs.  Who gets screwed?  The patients.

Once fully able to supply all of our own meds, our center cut prices nearly 40%.  Variety and quality are up.  Prices are down.  I fight for this state's patients' right to access medicinal cannabis on a daily basis.  I put my butt on the line with the feds.  And for it, I make less money than if I was still an independent cg and draw the ire of misinformed, greedy, "wish it still was the good 'ol days," know-it-all, schmucks like you, sir.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

You clearly have NO IDEA what you're yammering about if you think Dispensaries ever paid $3600 / lb wholesale.

The rest of your fabricated economic fantasy fails.

And your continued disparagement of Patients and Primary Caregivers operating under Amendment 20 as "black market" continues to expose you as the Big $$ Dispensary shill that you are.

Citizen80919
Citizen80919

 Funny that you would call ME a shill.  I must be getting close to the truth.

No, caregivers are not making more money.  Selling off bulk meds to a dispensary was EASY money.  Rustle up 10 patient, grow 60 plants, cash out the vast volumes of excess as wholesale into dispensaries for $3600 a lb under the guise of compassionate patient care.

 When the plug was pulled on that money tree via legislative action, caregivers suddenly hated the dispensaries that they once loved.  The evil money grubbing dispensaries you call them.  Seriously, you think people are buying that crap?  The patients under most caregivers can only buy a 1/2 or maybe an OZ each month. Maybe 16 ounces to their legit 10 patients in this example.

Those 60 plants yeild 240 ounces every few months if you get a mere 4oz per plant. Unless you are bad at math, that would leave 210 ounces that a caregiver is unable to sell to a dispensary several times a year. The prices then were $200/oz so.  That's $42,000 several times a year that they are losing out on. No wonder they hate dispensaries.

They are now stuck selling only to their patients in need for that $3,600 every few months.  Or sell excess into the black market.  Which do you think is happening, and who are really about all that under the table, non taxed money ? 

Coherent and Logical enough for you?  I tried to make it as simple as possible.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

LOL! ... you can't even form a logical or coherent argument in your blind shilling for the Big $$ Dispensary Cartel.

If the Caregivers are no longer selling to Dispensaries, then they are making MORE $$ by cutting out the middle man and selling direct to the Patients ... according to your assertion. 

So which is it ?

Citizen80919
Citizen80919

 Yeah, all those caregiver meds only go to the assigned patients.  You are funny or naive or an idiot.  lol  Ever look at craigslist ?  Caregivers aren't profit driven ? Yeah, love and compassion is all that drives them.  Caregivers just have their panties in a wad because they can no longer sell their excess off to the now regulated dispensaries.  Dispensaries were on the awesome list when caregivers were able to sling their tons of excess...  Remember???   Caregivers lose their profit means and all of a sudden Dispensaries become evil.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Typical Big $$ Dispensary shill, claiming that Patients and their Private Caregivers as created and authorized by Colorado Constitutional Amendment 20 are "black market".

It was the explosion of carpetbagging Retail Dispensaries circa 2008 that caused the Political and Legal blowback from their Puerile Pot Clown antics and obnoxious indiscreet behavior.

Reap what ye sow, Puerile Pot Clowns.

Citizen80919
Citizen80919

It's too bad that the 8000+ private caregivers selling into the black market caused legislators begin regulating marijuana. And actually any business that makes sales has to register with the state.  Silly little thing called sales taxes.  I would imagine that there is significant unreported personal income there as well.  Even if you are selling Tupperware, you have to report income and pay taxes. Caregivers are no exception.

Joe
Joe

 That is exactly what Laura Khiro says......

hmmmmm

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

That is exactly what the Laura Khiro Fanboys say ...

hmmmmm.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Surely the highly paid Pot Lawyers advised their MMC clients of the Federal Mandatory Minimum Sentencing Enhancement -- 1000 ft rule --- *before* they signed a lease and opened their Continuing Criminal Enterprises.

To those who ignored that advice -- reap what ye sow.

Citizen80919
Citizen80919

 Those who rely wholly upon the advice of others are doomed to fail.  Any dispensary owner should have taken that into account on their own accord. 

Why do you have to be such a douche?

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

LOL!

Are you suggesting that prospective MMC owners should not consult a competent lawyer for advice ?

How many MMC owners do you figure are aware of ALL the Federal Codes of which they are in violation of on a daily basis ?

-- Cultivation of 100 - 999 plants of any size = 5 years minimum mandatory prison sentence.

-- Cultivation of 1000 or more plants of any size = 10 years minimum mandatory prison sentence.

Note: those plant counts are cumulative, so if the grow cultivates 100 plants, for 10 harvests, the 1000 plant count would apply. Good thing that MMED keeps complete "seed to sale" records for the Feds to use.

-- Doing any of the above within 1000 feet of a school property = DOUBLE the above minimum mandatory sentences.

-- Possession of a Firearm while doing any of the above = 5 year minimum prison sentence to be served consecutive to the above.

And then there is the reality that the IRS considers Dispensaries to be Criminal Enterprises, and does not allow any standard business deductions, essentially taxing the gross business income.

Monkey
Monkey

I read the letter too, "actually the letter states to stop dispensing marijuana at that location" or we will seize your property. It also says they are violating federal law and face criminal charges. It most certainly did not mention "relocating". Your friend who "relocated" their federally illegal business has now provided evidence to retain a search warrant for any location they choose. Additional aggravated charges for continuing to break the law after being officially  told to stop will also be on their plate. Maybe you should grow your own, sounds like your friendly MMC isn't very good at comprehending legal matters.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Marijuana + Reading Comprehension = FAIL!

Really_WOW
Really_WOW

 Actually the letter states to stop dispensing marijuana at that location. Those who received the letter had 45 days to stop operations or relocate. I know because my friends center received the letter and they moved and are back open. I personally read the letter he received. Monkey go blow Donkey...

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

One wonders how many MMC owners who are outside the 1000ft limit are busy notifying the Feds of the competing dispensaries that are in violation ...

... nah, that would never happen.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

Not only did he foolishly go on TV bragging about the $100s of thousands he was going to make whilst "Living the Dream" in his basement ... he INVITED the DEA into his house when they arrived at his door, and signed a written Consent to Search and written Waiver of his Constitutional Rights ... and then gave them a TOUR of his grow op. When asked about patient paperwork he did not have enough patients for even 50% of what he was growing ... and he had way more than 100 plants ... and was only 200 feet from an ELEMENTARY school.

Not the sharpest tack in the box.

While the DEA may not be focusing on private patients/caregivers, if you run naked in front of their offices with your hair on fire holding criminal evidence and a signed confession, they just might take an interest.

If you knock on the Devil's door often enough, someone will eventually answer.

HTH.

Monkey
Monkey

Chris narced himself off on TV, didn't he? Kinda like what MMCs are doing. Why though people in jail, just makes them look bad and costs money. Threatening letters about saving the children makes them look good and is a very productive use of their limited resources.

Monkey
Monkey

I don't recall any MMC getting a letter allowing them to move, only to stop distributing marijuana. I guess you hear what you want huh? You think the feds are ignoring the CSA and getting into code enforcement? They are not interested in putting you in prison, that costs money, they want to destroy you with a letter, much better use of limited resources. The only time the feds bust caregivers is when they narc themselves off on TV, with all the large scale easy convictions like yourself, they don't need to spend time looking for caregivers.

Jake Browne
Jake Browne

Seems like most of the people getting arrested are private caregivers over 100 plants. At least the dispensary owners just got letters telling them to move. 

Guest
Guest

oh, so now you believe the feds?

whatever you say, waffling donkey.

Citizen80919
Citizen80919

 Chris was a caregiver, wasn't he?  Sucks to be in denial, doesn't it.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

"U.S. Justice Department spokeswoman Laura Sweeney said officials have made it clear “that we’re not focused on individual patients with serious illnesses like cancer or their immediate caregivers.”

http://420medicated.com/2011/s... 

Sucks to be ignorant, doesn't it?

Citizen80919
Citizen80919

Your quote:" However the Feds have stated that they won't focus their enforcement upon Private Patients and Primary Caregivers operating in compliance with Amendment 20."

This is incorrect.  They have stated that they are not after patients.  Caregivers are at risk as much as any MMC.  Remember that "Caregiver" that did the news interview?  http://www.thedenverchannel.co...

How many years are left on his sentence?

And do you think that prefacing each of  your posts with "LOL" strengthens your statement?  It only makes you look more of a fool to be honest.

Donkey Hotay
Donkey Hotay

"pretty sure" ?

LOL! 

Caregivers are violating the same Federal laws, if they are foolish enough to exceed the plant counts and/or school proximity.

However the Feds have stated that they won't focus their enforcement upon Private Patients and Primary Caregivers operating in compliance with Amendment 20. 

The Feds have clearly stated they WILL focus their enforcement actions on Commercial Retail Dispensaries and their large scale grow operations.

Given that the Dispensaries have supplied MMED with ALL the evidence and facts needed to establish a Racketeering / Continuing Criminal Enterprise / Money Laundering case against themselves, it will be quite a while before the Feds turn their focus toward private individuals.

Citizen80919
Citizen80919

 pretty sure any businessperson worth their salt would already know all of that without the advice of a "highly paid pot lawyer"  Caregivers are violating the same rules in case you didn't realize it. Being a caregiver does not grant you any federal immunity.

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