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Reader: George Soros isn't a reason to oppose marijuana legalization

George Soros.
Our post about the opponents of Amendment 64, the Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol Act, attempting to tie George Soros to the pro-pot campaign drew comments about the billionaire philanthropist and his possible impact on the initiative's chances for success in the November election. Here's a post from a reader who thinks using Soros as a bogeyman has passed its sell-by date.

Jose3 writes:

Half of Republicans now support legalization of marijuana. Soros was used as reason not to support legalization in the last major election and will likely be used this time as well. The theory is anything Soros supports must be bad -- but it won't work this time around. The big change this time around is that people are dying or getting critically sick from synthetic marijuana and die hard prohibitionists are to blame for thinking they can change thousands of years of behavior with the threat of prison. With a stinking economy it is almost a dare to put users in prison where they can learn new skills of how to be a real criminal.

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nope
nope

K.I.M. - KEEP IT MEDICAL and expand rights to medical marijuana to include all legal adults, no doctor's recommendation needed.

 

Regulate marijuana like herbal medicines.

IcePick
IcePick

Who is Donkey Hotay and why does he seem to be such a contrarian?  

 

I believe, based upon comments in this forum that he has at least one other moniker "AmKon_net".  A week or so ago AmKon_net clicked "like" on all the Donkey posts after one article, each and every one of them.  Then a few minutes later other "users" clicked "like" erasing the evidence of who the "likes" were from and covering them up with a non-named poster.  That way you just see ___ likes, not an actual posters name.  Unfortunately I can no longer prove my assertion because Westword dumped Disqus.  Though, if you'll oblige me, I did read several posts made by the AmKon_net and found they too used repeating constants in their posts.  Donkey Hotay has a specific style of writing and it includes consonance ie LYING LIARS, PUERILE POT and lefty-liberal.  

 

He also likes to use "big" words to seem as if he is more intelligent than he actually is "Deliberate Mendacious Prevaricating FRAUD".  Each and every one of these markers can be found in the posts made by AmKon_net.  The big red flag is they both write "AmeriKa" and "AmeriKan"  Have you ever written America that way?  Me neither.

 

Ask yourself "what is his objective?"

Ask yourself "who has the time to make this many posts?"

Ask yourself "why does he fight this law so vehemently?"

Ask yourself "could he be a federal agent using propaganda against us?"

Ask yourself "when faced with logic, why does he always attack the person who posted instead of defending his position as a normal person would?"

 

From a forum about "Political Manipulation / Cover-Ups / False Flags"

read the following and tell me if you think Donkey is an agent for AmKon:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-191757.html

 

 

Duncan20903
Duncan20903

Only an idiot would argue that less prohibition is worse than more prohibition. A-64 may not be re-legalization but it most certainly is less prohibition than the current law.

MartineJ
MartineJ

Top 5 reasons for Marijuana to be legalized are as follows: 1. It has beneficial healing properties for many mental and physical illness.2. Save lots of money reducing prison, police and court costs.3. Take a large amount of money out of the black markets and put it into the economy.4. Tax and license it so people can grow, buy, sell etc.5. It will create new industries and jobs.http://bigbudsmag.com/lifestyle/legal/article/gun-loving-christian-and-republican-megan-mccain-why-medical-marijuana-ok-ju

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

Of course George Soros isn't a reason not to support Amendment 64!  Stop being distracted by all the irrelevant ad hominem and focus on the provisions of the Amendment.  Besides those provisions establishing State regulation of retail sales and the cultivation of hemp (which are unlikely to take effect unless there are drastic changes in Federal law and policy regarding cannabis), the Amendment declares that it shall no longer be unlawful for adults to cultivate and use some cannabis -- this is an obvious challenge to Prohibition which every person who uses cannabis and every taxpayer in Colorado should support.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @nope 

 

**** Regulate Marijuana Like Echinacea !! **** 

 

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amkon
amkon

@IcePick

Though, if you'll oblige me, I did read several posts made by the AmKon_net and found they too used repeating constants in their posts.  Donkey Hotay has a specific style of writing and it includes consonance ie LYING LIARS, PUERILE POT and lefty-liberal.  

 

He also likes to use "big" words to seem as if he is more intelligent than he actually is "Deliberate Mendacious Prevaricating FRAUD".  Each and every one of these markers can be found in the posts made by AmKon_net.  The big red flag is they both write "AmeriKa" and "AmeriKan"  Have you ever written America that way?  Me neither.

 

 

LMFAO your proof is that we both use the word "amerika." Dude, I post on a site called "ameriKan konspiracy." AmeriKa with a K.

 

Also if you read my writing style you'll see its nothing like D.H.

 

Do I look like a prohibitionist to you?

 

https://twitter.com/#!/AmKonDotNet

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/AmKonDotNet?action=comments

amkon
amkon

 @IcePick I've also been pretty clear in my support for any legalization initiative that puts less people in jail and is generally a step in the right direction. But yeah, I'm donkey hotay.

amkon
amkon

 @IcePick 

 

"I believe, based upon comments in this forum that he has at least one other moniker "AmKon_net""

 

You've lost it dude. Because I liked some comments I'm donkey hotay? Read my posts and read his, I'm not a prohibitionist. I'm rather insulted you've confused the two of us.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 

 @IcePick  wrote "I believe..."

 

Your beliefs = the deluded nonsense of an ignorant imbecile.

 

hth.

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @Duncan20903 

 

A64 = meaningless symbolism

 

-- How many people over 21 are arrested for possession of only 1 (one) ounce of marjuana in Colorado ?

 

Answer = ZERO !! ... possession of up to 2 (two) ounces is already decriminalized by statute, and for ALL adults age 18 and up!

 

-- How many people over 21 are arrested for cultivation of only 3 (three) flowering plants in Colorado ?

 

Answer = ? ... the lying liars behind A64 have not been able to provide a SINGLE CASE.

 

A64 = worthless, dysfunctional, ineffective crap.

 

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @MartineJ 

 

A64 does NOT legalize marijuana

 

Only fools would beg the Government to TAX, REGULATE and LICENSE anything they actually cared about.

 

A64 will NOT reduce or eliminate a single person in prison in Colorado for marijuana.

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @RobertChase 

 

It's NO CHALLENGE at all to prohibition, as it leaves ALL of the Criminal Statutes against marijuana firmly in place, and offers NO FUNCTIONAL protection for any real-world marijuana users or growers due to it's pathetically puny, unworkable, unsustainable limits of only 1 (one) ounce and 3 (three) flowering plants ...

 

... and only for those over 21.

 

A64 = EPIC FAIL!

 

A64 = Continues FAR FAR MORE Criminal Prohibition than it mitigates.

 

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @amkon @IcePick 

 

And if the dipshit NosePick had a fucking clue, he'd realize that I use U$A more often than AmeriKKKa when referring to greedy capitalist racist RepuglyKKKans and their bigoted pig-ignorant Teabagging twitwits.

 

IcePick = Brian = another zit-poppin' bong-sucking stoner.

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @amkon  

 

Fact -- A64 does NOT put less people in jail.

 

A64 offers no FUNCTIONAL protection for any real-world users or growers due to its pathetically puny limits -- 1 (one) ounce and 3 (three) flowering plants -- and only for those 21 and older.

 

A64 = a CONTINUATION of CRIMINAL PROHIBITION!

 

But go ahead a vote for it, because it's got a deceptive simple-minded title.

 

 

IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay  @Duncan20903 "A64 = worthless, dysfunctional, ineffective crap."  Except that it DOES ALLOW LEGAL RECREATIONAL USE BY ADULTS.  

 

Yes on A64!

IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay I love cars.  I want to the government to regulate the way cars are made and what safety equipment they come with as standard features.  PRESTO, my wish was granted.

 

Now let's do the same thing with recreational marijuana, VOTE YES on A64!

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

 @DonkeyHotay I can distinguish very clearly between what Amendment 64 fails to do, and what all the prohibitionist laws do do, and I believe that you are of sufficient intelligence to do so as well -- it is completely false to assert that "A64 = Continues FAR FAR MORE Criminal Prohibition than it mitigates", because there is nothing in Amendment 64 which furthers or continues any of those prohibitionist laws, down to and including language in its stated purpose which makes reference to existing laws against driving under the influence of cannabis.

novak6600
novak6600

 @DonkeyHotay it should only be for people over 21 and 1 ounce is plenty enough for now (if anything that just means a few more trips to the store). i thought this was happening on the state level not the federal. what exactly are you getting at or are you just an 18 year old that can't wait.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick 

 

A64 does NOT Legalize Marijuana -- not even close.

 

 

IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay " so you agree with your own post, eh?"

 

Yes I agree with my own post.  Duh.  I also agree that we need to all vote YES ON A64 it legalizes pot for adults.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick  so you agree with your own post, eh?

 

 

Down with Prohibition!

 

*** Legalize Marijuana Like Oregano !! ***

 

A64 = a Continuation of Criminal Prohibition wrapped in LIES!

 

*** Vote NO on A64! ***

 

IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay I whole heartedly agree that 18 year olds should be able to drink.  Though I would not stop there, everyone should be able to drink.  See, look at that, I'm supporting you twit.

 

In America we have a problem with high school and college students binge drinking.  In Europe they have no such problem because they start drinking at home with their parents at 16.  They are no restricted and so they do not over-indulge.

 

Same lesson for weed, we should drop the age to 0.  

Down with prohibition.  

 

Step 1:  Vote YES on A64!

 

 

IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay LOL.  I started posting here with the name "Not a Lawyer", I'm pretty sure Vincente passed the bar.  I never sat though I spent many years in a city where it seems every other person was an esquire.

 

I am not Brian Vincente nor any other known personality outside my little world.  I am not an activist, except for my posts here.  I could tell you my name but you don't know me so there is no point.  I do not have the balls that Robert does as I'm a paranoid weed smoker.  

 

 

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick 

 

Sure thing Brian ... whatever you say.

 

PS: you missed a few zits on your face this morning.

 

 

IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay I NEVER claimed you were anybody other than Greg Middlesworth.  Stop with the lies.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick 

 

You're the same clueless imbecile who spent weeks claiming I was Laura Kriho ... then claiming I was Corry Donahue ... then back again. 

 

Grow a brain you stump-stupid stammering stoner.

 

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IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay Boy?  So you are white and talk like a cowboy.  1 point for Wyoming.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick 

 

Idiocy and Delusion ain't much of a message, boy.

 

Try again.

IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay 

 

>Nope -- the Watkins and Beinor court rulings render "use" unprotected.

 

True under Amendment 20, but the courts have not yet ruled on A64.  Stop with the lies.  

 

In fact all your post did is discredit your continued statement that use is already legal.  Now perhaps you can see why we, who live in Colorado, need A64.

 

Yes on A64! 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick 

 

Nope -- the Watkins and Beinor court rulings render "use" unprotected.

kevin_hunt
kevin_hunt

 @IcePick  Hey Ice Pick, do you remember the story where the Hell's Angels tried to get Donkey Hotay to engage them in a boxing match?  Do you have a link for that?

IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay Yawn

 

"According to the research group CIRCLE—The Center for Information & Research on Civic Learning and Engagement—which tracks civic engagement among young voters, 51 percent of 18- to-19-year-olds voted that year (2008).

 

In 2010, polls showed that young people were still supportive of Obama and the Democrats. But only 20.9 percent of them bothered to vote."

 

Yes, I'm sure we're all concerned about that huge 21% of 18 year olds overturning the vote.  Pah-leeez.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick declared "Like I said nobody cares about 18 year olds because they do not vote."

 

Boy, you've got to be THE DUMBEST Doper in the entire state.

 

Did your mother raise you to be an imbecile, or is that a skill you developed on your own?

 

That amount of ignorance surely must be painful at times.

 

Stay Stupid --- it's what you do best.

IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay Like I said nobody cares about 18 year olds because they do not vote.  Personally I'd love to see it change to no age limit but I am willing to vote for it anyway.  The Watkins and Beinor rulings were about Amendment 20, not about the as yet not law Amendment 64.  Stop the lies.

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick 

 

No, A64 does NOT legalize use for ADULTS -- it specifically EXCLUDES 10s of THOUSANDS of ADULTS < 21 -- and furthermore the Watkins and Beinor rulings state that the language is insufficient to grant any right to use to anyone.

 

A64 = Epic Failure!

 

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IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay But it does legalize use for adults in Colorado which is why we will vote YES ON 64!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick 

 

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"Amendment 64 would not stop unjust imprisonment for cannabis, legalize cannabis, or regulate it like alcohol."

-- Robert Chase

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IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay Oh so by your logic we should never write any new laws because all case law already exists, right?

 

The truth remains A64 legalizes marijuana for adult recreational use, contrary to the contrarians continued crap.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick = a proven imbecile regarding legal facts

 

A64 would NOT legalize marijuana use for ANY person -- the Watkins and Beinor rulings have made that clear.

 

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IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay 

Fact: A64 legalizes marijuana possession and use by adults.  

 

Fact: Donkey Hotay cannot read and interpret the language of the amendment.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick 

 

FACT -- 

********************************************************************

"Amendment 64 would not stop unjust imprisonment for cannabis,

legalize cannabis, or regulate it like alcohol."-- Robert Chase

*********************************************************************

 

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IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay I don't need to try.  You're the one who attacks the messenger when your point is proven false, not me.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick said " I really am beginning to think ..."

 

Quite obviously not.

 

Try again.

 

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IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay Yes, quite a few times.  You certainly do like attacking the messenger when your logic is shown to be broken.  I really am beginning to think you are 18.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick 

 

You've never been accused of being coherent or rational, have you?

 

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IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay But you should vote for it anyway because it is a decent start.  You have yet to give a valid reason to vote against it.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick 

 

***********************************************************

 

"Amendment 64 would not stop unjust imprisonment for cannabis, legalize cannabis, or regulate it like alcohol."

-- Robert Chase

 

************************************************************

 

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IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay  @RobertChase Just because you repeat it, Donkey, doesnot mean it's true.

 

A64 = LEGALIZATION OF RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA FOR ADULTS

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @RobertChase 

 

A64 does NOT remove a SINGLE CRIMINAL STATUTE regarding Marijuana in Colorado.

 

A64's pathetically puny limits of 1 ounce and 3 flowering plants -- and further excluding 10s of Thousands of ADULTS age 18>21 --  provide no FUNCTIONAL benefit to any real-world marijuana users or growers.

 

A64 does not allow private sales between consenting adults.

 

A64 = a continuation of criminal prohibition.

 

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick 

 

A64 provides NO FUNCTIONAL BENEFIT to any real-world Marijuana Users or Growers.

 

A64 = a CONTINUATION of CRIMINAL PROHIBITION!

 

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IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay For the stupid (Donkey) let me slow this down...   It's illegal at the federal level and yet we continue to craft and approve measures that directly ignore federal law.

 

Yes on A64!  It's benefits outweigh it's shortcomings.

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick 

 

You voted for the "Opium Treaty" ?

 

Try writing for coherence.

IcePick
IcePick

 @DonkeyHotay So does the Opium treaty the Fed operates under but that is not a reason to vote against it as the benefits clearly outweigh the negatives.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @IcePick  = lives in a world of ignorance and delusion.

 

A64 = continues CRIMINAL PROHIBITION of marijuana.

IcePick
IcePick

 @novak6600  @DonkeyHotay He's nothing more than a contrarian who supports marijuana prohibition in it's current form, that is why he has done nothing to develop or promote I70 and instead just comes here to tell us how stupid WE are.  I'm not sure why though as HE LIVES IN WYOMING!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @novak6600 

 

Why is marijuana so harmful and dangerous that 10s of thousands of ADULTS age 18>21 should be denied ANY legal access to ANY amounts whatsoever, as A64 does ?

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