James Holmes in court: Mentally ill or faking it?

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After suspected Aurora theater shooter James Holmes made his first court appearance yesterday, a national guessing game began. The question: Is Holmes, who appeared stunned and befuddled during his moments before the camera, exhibiting legitimate signs of mental illness, or is he acting? The debate has already transformed itself into a full employment plan for body-language experts, as the videos on view below indicate.

Our Melanie Asmar, who was in the courtroom with Holmes yesterday, noted in one of the posts linked above that the enormous press contingent on hand for the proceedings included a representative from Entertainment Tonight -- and indeed, last night's edition of the program was dominated by news about Holmes rather than the usual showcases for glittering premieres and celebrity gazing. Among the features was one featuring psychologist Dr. Lillian Glass, who said, "James Holmes's body language was very odd. One of the things that was disconcerting was that he kept nodding out. It looked like he was going to sleep. He looked like he was trying to stay awake."

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James Holmes's mug shot.
Her supposition: Holmes was either suffering from the affects of sleep deprivation or was on heavy medication. District attorney Carol Chambers claimed to have no knowledge of the latter at a post-hearing press conference.

Glass also attempted to dissect Holmes's frown, saying, "He looked like he was going to cry in several instances. There was a crinkling of the forehead, the lower lips were down, and it looked like he was going to tear up."

HollywoodLife.com quoted Glass's analysis of Holmes, too, in addition to quizzing psychologist Dr. Carole Lieberman, who's apparently on a first-name basis with the accused assassin. "James looked as if he was trying to wake up from a nightmare," she's quoted as saying. "But every time he opened his eyes, he realized the nightmare was real. This confusion is typical of people who have immersed themselves in fantasy media violence and are having trouble getting back in touch with reality."

The U.K. Daily Mail cut to the chase with its coverage, headlining a sidebar to its main hearing coverage "Was James Holmes Faking It?" In the opinion of Dr. Joan Neff, a University of Virginia criminologist, probably not. She suggested that his actions suggested that he was mentally ill and possibly schizophrenic -- and she saw his decision to drop out of his doctoral program at the University of Colorado early as possible evidence. In her words, "We know that certain types of psychoses tend to have an onset in the early twenties; if that's the case he may be in the midst of coping with that. He may not know what's going on." Then again, she said he may simply have been showing symptoms of difficulty adapting to jail conditions.

Even local stations are taking part in these video diagnoses. Example: WFMY in North Carolina, which asked body-language trial consultant Blanca Cobb to weigh in. She saw Holmes's closed-in posture as indicative that he now lacks the sort of confidence that might be expected of someone who committed such a brazen act.

What's this prove? Absolutely nothing. But with nearly a week to go before Holmes is formally charged, and many months before he might be tried for the heinous slayings, news organizations, and those on the fringes, are already looking for ways to extend the story -- and doing the equivalent of reading the tea leaves when it comes to his demeanor is one way of doing that.

Look below to see the Entertainment Tonight and WFMY segments on body language.

More from our Aurora Theater Shooting archive: "Aurora theater shooting: President Obama shares Allie Young's amazing survivor's story."

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quackhead
quackhead

He knew what he was doing, knew it was wrong, knew he would go to jail.  He's getting special treatment with an outlandish OJ simpson-like trial because of all the media attention he is getting as intended from his melt down.   Death is the only thing he fears.  If he didn't fear death he would have offed himself like his victims.  He wanted to be in prison and planned to be in prison.  If he is not sentenced to death then he is getting what he wants.  Sane or not, give him death already.

nomadsport86
nomadsport86

give him some medication for that?? Are these people republicans? Medication for THAT!?!?!???

nomadsport86
nomadsport86

mentally ill? I dont believe in mental illness. We adapt to circumstance, or maladapt. What does that have to do with anything at all? What is he going to get out of it, a jail sentence? Forget that dross. Lynch him. I wouldn't mind to see some feathers flying.

 

grcool29
grcool29

To bad this guy wasn't taking some MMJ, then this would have never have happened. He would have never made it to the theater, may be 7-11 for some chips but that's about it.  And instead of bombs in his apartment he would have a grow room. Case solved. Legalize MMJ or face worse murders in the future. Well good thing everyone will have Obama care to go to the Hospital in the future. Thanks Obama.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

His blown, dilated pupils suggest a severe serotonin imbalance.

 

The boy is textbook Non Compos Mentis.

 

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redmnms
redmnms

This headline is terrible. A man fires into a crowded theater, and you wonder whether he's REALLY mentally ill? Seriously?

 

Anyone who would do this has a problem. It's that simple. Let's not perpetrate mental-illness stigma by speculating whether someone (who's clearly very, very sick) is "faking it."

rain
rain

Nobody is qualified to make a diagnosis by virtue of seeing one appearance in a courtroom. We could guess, but that's all it would be. Even an expert would not be able to make a diagnosis of mental illness by video. I agree that something seems "off" about him, but as to what that is? You'd need a physician, a psychiatrist, and a psychologist. Maybe whole squads of them.

r0b0tgrl
r0b0tgrl

Obviously there's a lot more to this story than the people involved are letting on... but that aside, after watching that video it was hard not to think that he was either drugged beyond belief (or perhaps had some weird government experiment done on his brain, haha), or having withdrawals from psychiatric medicine. If you think about it, it happened Thursday at midnight, and as he's been in custody he hasn't had access to any medications he might've been on. I know from experience that when someone stops psychiatric medication "cold turkey", the reactions can be severe, if not deadly. I haven't read anything about him ever being on those types of meds, but it's a possibility.

Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

Come on, Roberts.

You are so far beyond this.

Follow the 'ballistic work', being done by APD.

Find out how many were hit by bullets from an officer's gun.

Re-listen to ALL recordings. Even the ones that were 1st used by local networks.

You can hear via scanners or recorded phone calls, many DIFFERENT firing noises.

Some experts, I am not, are claiming nine different guns discharging in a 2 &1/2 second period.

How is this possible from one person ?

We ALL know police dispatch was SCREAMING FOR ALL GAS MASKS IN THE AREA !!!, yet we still hear steady gun fire, that I believe is MOSTLY by APD, firing blindly into the theater.

Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

Did any police fire blindly into the theater,

or

were they 'FAKING', too ???

redmnms
redmnms

Let me add that mental illness does not automatically mean someone is "legally insane." Two very different things. This guy might not be legally insane, but mentally ill? Most definitely.

WhoCares
WhoCares

 @juan_leg The police were not faking it at all. This was coordinated at high levels. Reports say one gunman came in and fired into the ceiling and left. That was the dupe. That was the signal to get this police operation going. There were multiple shooters which all the initial witnesses said on the live news feed. Don't you find it odd that in a primarily African American movie theater that almost all the victims are white?

 

The police refused to clear the apartment at night. They only worked day hours showing this police operation is just part of their day job. I have never heard so much self-congratulating by police. That is another sign it was staged.

 

Bozo the clown was the dupe and patsy. He mostly likely will be killed by prisoners who think he was a lone nut. This clown was an easy target by police psyops which is what this is.

 

The news media (except Westword moderators who allow different opinions in the comment sections) are just towing the corporate line. If they disagree they won't have a job. That is how it works. I do not expect any writer for Westword to post anything different then what they are supposed to write to keep their jobs. You think any Westword writer that does a real investigation will have a job? No way. Any writer that questions the programmed police event will be fired I can guarantee you that. Westword is the premier weekly newspaper in the country. Westword has the best online newspaper anywhere in the country. Westword is profitable. Their writers will tow the line and keep the profits going. Nobody wants to lose their job especially if they have a house, kids and are married.

 

Notice any article about Kyle Miller who was murdered by Broomfiled police by Westword? http://tinyurl.com/c5s7do8

 

Bozo the clown is not faking anything. He was targeted as a dupe by police psyops units. He carried out his mission not realizing the joke is on him and will probably be killed in prison. This guy had enough psychological problems to get duped. His crime is he was not an official police officer that gets paid to massacre unarmed white people.

 

This entire operation was carried out exactly how police goons carry out their murderous operations routinely.

 

There will never be a proper investigation. I feel for the USA and all the white people killed in this police pysop.

 

I would say between rense.com and infowars.com readers there are about one million people that know this was a police pysop targeting whites and to enact the UN gun treaty. White people are in a daze.

 

Do I feel sorry for bozo the clown? No, not at all.

 

I feel sorry for the people that do not research this police staged event and come to their own conclusions.

 

No Westword writer dare deviate from the script or they will lose their jobs.

 

I read Westword for the articles on culture, music, dance, food and art. Plus, the Westword photographers are cool. I do not read Westword for any real news stories.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @redmnms 

 

Shhhh ... the chattering chipmunks are too hysterical to discern the difference between obvious mental illness and legal "insanity".

 

To the average idiot, they are one and the same.

 

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yakisaki
yakisaki

 @WhoCares this isn't a predominately african american theater you idiot. what gives you that idea at ALL? It's mostly white people as are most of Aurora. But i guess that's the least of the things i should be calling you out for. I think YOU are mentally unstable. WTF. Conspiracy theorists are WHACK.

Alex
Alex

Please get back on your meds

Guest
Guest

@WhoCares @Guest Oh yes we all know that by simply stating something is valid makes it so. "it's true! I read it on the Internet! I am now totally qualified in what I'm talking about because I watched someone's YouTube video!" if you can't see how stupid that sounds then you can't be helped. And 'bozo the clown' was a graduate neuroscience major. Pyscho and deranged? Yes, but not an idiot. By the way, my race does not matter you racist prick.

WhoCares
WhoCares

 @Guest You are a programmed robot and truth suppression artist. You really think bozo the clown carried this police operation out. I have some some swampland in Florida to sell you. Actually I do not because you would stink it up and that would be cruel to the swamp critters that live there.

WhoCares
WhoCares

 @Guest Wooo scary Aurora white holocaust denier. My links are valid. This was a staged police event and an attack on whites in a very black part of Aurora, Colorado. By the way what color are you? If you are black you are in like slim shady in Aurora, Colorado which is the armpit of Colorado. Go back to your crystal meth. You need it to get through the day. 

 

http://tinyurl.com/yzb53mx

WhoCares
WhoCares

The Aurora mall has a long history of gang fights between blacks. This time the target was whites. That area is indeed the black part of Aurora . Facts are facts. This was a police staged event using bozo the clown as a dupe. There were multiple shooters and whites were obviously targeted.

 

Here is a former police chief for that county getting caught trading meth for sex with boys: http://tinyurl.com/ccawegy

Guest
Guest

 @WhoCares Your links are bullshit.  They are not reputable sources and it's sad that you would play them off as being so.  Apparently you think a YouTube video and a conspiracy website constitutes a reliable source.  Aurora is where I am from.  That cinema used to be in my neighborhood only a few years ago.  I had friends that were there being shot at (thankfully still alive).  I still have family that lives over there and I well aware of the Somalis, Ethiopians, Latinos and whoever else lives there because everybody fucking lives over there.

 

Go take your meds.  You've made it very clear you need it.

WhoCares
WhoCares

 @Guest I offer proof to back up my posts while you offer nothing.The links prove my points.

 

This was a police pysop attacking whites. I suggest you hang out in North Aurora or perhaps east Aurora where the feds shipped in Somalis for good measure.

 

Gee, this police pysop happened on the Somali famine anniversary.

 

http://tinyurl.com/dy7q4jr

 

 

 

Guest
Guest

 @WhoCares Unreal, you're going to look on a map of ethnicity which tells me that you know nothing of the area.  Aurora (especially north Aurora) is a very mixed community.  All races live there.  Your conspiracy of the 'war against the whites' is absolutely ridiculous.  I don't even know what to say in response to that it's so asinine.   You've made it pretty obvious that you are racist.  And furthermore, I don't see your issue with the police waiting to enter the apartment until daytime.  The apartment was booby-trapped, so not only did they have to evacuate the area first, but they also had to take their time trying to get into the apartment (2 days).  

 

For someone who portrays themselves as being so smart you sure do say some stupid shit.

WhoCares
WhoCares

 @DonkeyHotay  @yakisaki The KKK is not active in the area but the black gangs are. http://tinyurl.com/yf96qmj

 

All that weed and meth has fried Donkey's brain cell to the point not even police gangs will hire him.

 

At least come up with some better one liners instead of the lame rehashed ones you use. Try actually doing some research. Oh wait you are too busy enjoying your meth to do any real reseach.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @yakisaki 

 

And KKKonspiracy KooKs are predominately WHITE ...

 

... and not so bright.

 

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DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @WhoCares 

 

Paranoid people call those who point out their paranoia "Criminals or Abusive" 100% of the time.

 

hth.

WhoCares
WhoCares

 @Truth23 How you explain the alleged shooters Tennessee plates? http://tinyurl.com/ck9zm6a

 

The was 100% a staged police operation in the most corrupt county in the USA.

 

The police immediately said lone shooter and then profusely complimented themselves. The police story contradicted all the witnesses on the live news feed.

WhoCares
WhoCares

 @yakisaki  What to shout using all caps which shows your violent, childish obsessive/compulsive personality. prime recruitment material for police pysops by the way.

WhoCares
WhoCares

 @Truth23 Agree with your rant except the paranoid part.

 

Criminals and abusive people call their victims paranoid 100% of the time.

 

This was in fact a police psyop with bozo the clown the dupe.

 

 The creator of prozac killed himself. Here are some more stories about the drugs the mega corporations push:

 

http://tinyurl.com/c52o4xz

 

The fact is whites are being attacked in Denver and across the country.

 

This was another police psyop that targeted whites.

 

http://tinyurl.com/6348vz

 

The script is being flipped to target whites who are the last hold out to Zionist and sadistic oppression.

 

60 years ago it was blacks that were targeted and now it is heterosexual whites. The powers that be do this because they can. They already have enough money but to destroy an entire race that is something that money can't buy. The powers that be have already destroyed white culture and now the silent genocide of the white is occurring. http://tinyurl.com/2akf3qg

 

We don't know if this guy was using psychotropic drugs but if he was that makes him an ideal dupe for this police staged event.

 

This patsy was in his mind enough not even scratch one single police officer which means it was staged. If he was really that violent no one including the police would have made it out. Only police are violent enough to carry out this type of operation.

 

Was he smart? No, not really. He seems to hate white people and he allowed himself to be part of a police operation. That is not smart at all.

 

Personal attacks don't work on me. I have heard all the lame one liners before.  Personal attacks against me only show who is shill for the the criminals including the police.

 

 

 

yakisaki
yakisaki

 @Truth23 And yet Doctor's will still prescribe these, often in the company of other drugs. Over-prescription. I have a been a victim of this. A lot of people have. It doesn't have to be anti-depressants, doctor's over-prescribe starting with antibiotics! "Oh you have a virus, son. we'll just see if these antibiotics do anything. they probably wont but just in case" etc etc etc. Same with ADD medicine, even my asthma inhaler makes me feel strange and shaky and it doesn't go away for a while. I am in no way correlating my asthma medicine to anti-depressants and the like, I am however calling out Doctors, pharma reps, pharma companies, and above all OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. And yes, many psychiatric conditions only reveal themselves in the early-mid 20's. Schizophrenia is one of those. T hey think obesity is America's problem? Let's get real! The problem is PILLS! "Medicine!" DRUGS. So I guess we better be prepared for more psychos in the future if they decide to not take their meds one day.

Truth23
Truth23

 @Alex James Holmes did not do the shooting, his SSRI drugs(MEDS) did it . They are selective serotine re-uptake inhibitors (antidepressants).If the above paranoid young white male takes them he could be the next shooter. I would much rather hear his un -drugged rant. SSRI drugs come with a black box warning that they may cause violence anger and homicidal ideation or suicide. All of the past school shooters have been on them and since and exactly coinciding with their introduction to China  there has been a spree of kindergarten slayings committed on them. They have stricter gun laws so the murders have been committed with mallets and other weapons like swords. They have been found to be a direct cause of so many murders that the FDA , big pharmas own lap dog has forced the drug dealers (companies) that produce them to issue black box warnings of their ability to cause mania and psychosis induced violence against ones self or others. It is a well known fact.News stations will never show to what extent this is known or report the truth about these atrocious crimes because these companies pay for their existance being some of their biggest ad sponsers. They will not bite the hand that feeds them.In one paxil case where the man who had been on it only 2 days killed himself and 3 family members all the surrviving family members were awarded 8 million dollars each by a judge from the makers of paxil.We need more judges like this. If real jutise is to occur then James Holmes and the other victims of the theatre slaying should seek the death penalty (by firing squad) for the makers of the SSRI drug that he was on when this occurred. Also for any person who profited in any way from that drug. If change is to occur he must be found not guilty. Not by reasons of insanity but because the real criminals are the DRUG CARTELS(pharmaceutical companies)  and the FDA!!!!! Big pharma shoving their murderous drugs down the throats of AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA> STOP SWALLOWING  IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! James Holmes and Andrea Yates and her five dead babies are Victims. Religious wakos and SSRI drugs ESPECIALLY do not mix!

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