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Today the Latest Word (and all of Westword's blogs) rolled out a new user profile platform dubbed My Voice Nation. Your voice -- and the opinions you voice in our comments section -- will now be amplified through a fancy new commenting program called Livefyre ("live fire"). Read all about it below.

Livefyre and My Voice Nation

SocialSync:

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When conversation is happening about an article on Facebook or Twitter, you can now see that conversation within the commenting thread. You can also tag and import your friends from Twitter and Facebook within the comment stream yourself.

True Real Time:

You can see who is listening to a conversation and read comments in real time, making it easier to jump right into the discussion.

Notifications:

You can choose to be alerted via email when someone replies to or likes your comment.

One Platform:

My Voice Nation is a global profile system for all our properties. Soon, you'll be able to follow your favorite authors and news topics, giving yourself a customized experience of our sites. Starting today, your My Voice Nation profile is linked with your Livefyre account as one log-in. You don't need a My Voice Nation account to write a review on Voice Places and a separate Disqus account (our previous commenting platform) to comment on our stories. Your My Voice Nation is your one account for everything.

Follow Your Friends, Enemies or Frenemies:

You'll be able to see what your friends are saying and doing on our publications and Voice Places now with this one account.

Easy Sign-Up:

To sign up, just click "Sign in" in the new comments section. You can sign up with Facebook, Twitter, Yahoo, Google or your e-mail. And yes, it's still possible to comment anonymously, if you'd like.

That's all there is to it! Questions? Comments? (And be gentle; we know we'll have some glitches in the first hours.) Drop them below.


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26 comments
DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Behold the many failures and defficiencies of the new Livefyre comment system vs. DISQUS --

 

1) Cannot EDIT posts, to correct errors or mistakes. Livefyre speciously claims that allowing editing would affect discussion continuity -- but they allow DELETING the entire post, which breaks any continuity.

 

2) Message THREADING is limited to only 2 replies. After that, reply branching stops and all additional comments are simply stacked in a single pile. Absurd dysfunction that makes robust discussions with multiple users impossible for follow. That's so Web 1.0.

 

3) MOBILE integration FAILS completely. Does not work with mobile platforms at all.

 

4) Claims to offer REAL TIME updates of Messages. Numerous user profiles are stuck and frozen days in the past, with only a fraction of their posts, or posts of friends being followed, showing in profiles / activity.

 

5) Follow that Story fails completely. No new posts to stories being followed appear in a user's profile.

 

6) Clicking in another User's icon to view their profile often times mistakenly links to your own profile / activity.

 

7) Way too much emphasis on Twitwit and Failbook. Are tweenagers their target market?

 

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There used to be an option to subscribe to an individual article's comments via RSS feed. I can't find that here. If it's here, please tell me where to find it. If it's not, please bring that feature back.

BrianMartinez
BrianMartinez

Old comments gone?

*grumble*

No user editing of comments?

*grumble*

(first world problems, etc.)

AndGetOffMyLawn
AndGetOffMyLawn

Disappointing,. VVM should have just bit the bullet and adopted Facebook Comments.

 

Get some real names in here, some accountability, and things would clean up in no time at all.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

" a fancy new commenting program called Lifefyre [sic] ("live fire") "

 

Editor FAIL!

 

Good thing you can correct it after the fact, WW, but the new LIVEfyre software does not allow user corrections or edits.

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Behold the puerile demographic that VV is mining for $$ ... the inane simpletons who use Failbook and Twitwit.

 

The inability of this new platform to edit -- correct -- one's posts is a gigantic fail.

 

Imagine, Michael and Patty, if you couldn't edit the inevitable errors and mistakes that appear in your stories on Westword.

 

The funniest part of all this is that Robert "Mr. Myopic" Chase whined and complained about Disqus demanding that you "get rid of it" ... and now that you have, he suddenly realizes that the new system is worse.

 

He'll be making the same weak confessions and deflecting apologies if A64 were to pass, bringing with it all the unintended consequences that fools continue to ignore.

 

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

Village Voice Media is free to try a succession of commenting systems, but if it values its posters, it would not simply eliminate hundreds or thousands of their comments -- certainly without giving any notice!

 

The "fancy new commenting program" does not allow editing, does not distinguish between new posts and replies to others (DISQUS had that problem too -- about 1% or less of the time), and does not register approval or disapproval of others' comments.

 

I take your failure to address any of these issues to be indicative of a monumental ineptitude on the part of Village Voice Media in managing its online resources  -- have you in fact wiped out all posters' previous comments?  This does not exactly comport with my understanding of amplification.  Your perky promotional BS about this colossal fuck-up is an utterly inadequate explanation, in any event, and failing a very much better one and some means of retrieving old comments being provided, Vilage Voice Media has just lost a slew of other thoughtful posters -- I am sure you will do fine with semiliterates who forget their tweet-like responses shortly after making them.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Robert Chase prefers any change from the "status quo" ... even if it's the WRONG change, and for the WORSE.

 

That's his ONLY reason for supporting the excrement known as Amendment 64.

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

 @BrianMartinez As long as no one has responded to a comment, you can copy its text to the clipboard, delete it, correct the text, and repost -- functionally equivalent to editing.

NickLucchesi
NickLucchesi moderator communitymanager

 @BrianMartinez Hi Brian, the old comments will be back, it's just taking a while. There were a lot of them. 

 

Nick Lucchesi

Web Editor

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Right, because no one uses an alias on Failbook.

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay

The new commenting system really is not about me, and you aren't so stupid as to imagine that it is, but why do you think that blaming me for it will have some kind of traction with other readers?  You needn't answer; most of your obnoxious ad hominem has no rational motivation other than your own attempts to appeal to "the puerile demographic ... [of] inane simpletons"

 

If, as it appears, one can delete one's posts and re-post, that is functionally equivalent to editing them -- except that the system may not allow deletion once responses have been made.  When you knee-jerk in response, I'll try to delete and re-post this.

 

One thing is certain:  you cannot "read all about it" in this article, because most relevant information posters would want to know is absent!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Boy, that's got your knickers in a twist, don't it Robert?

 

3000+ of your Bombastic Ostentatious Histrionic posts ... flushed down the toilet without warning or fanfare ... lost to the ether of change ...

 

You = got what you whined and complained for, they "got rid of Disqus", just as you demanded !!

 

LOL!

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

 @DonkeyHotay Your attempts to make this about me are bizarre -- just more evidence of your obsession!

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

 @NickLucchesi Good, but the way Village Voice Media sprung this on readers is contemptible:  to do this without notice was bad enough, but this article is offensively uninformative.  Please supply a real description of how Livefyre works (or is supposed to work) as opposed to the silly promotional blather above!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @RobertChase 

 

You'll also note another GIANT FAIL is that Comment Threading is now truncated at only 2 replies per original post, the rest of the replys being stacked instead of branched, making running multi-user discussions extremely difficult to follow.

 

Welcome to the Twitter-Failbook Universe!

 

Reap It, Baby !!

 

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

 @ignis Yes -- as far as I know, that is just a tally of the number of comments made on the various blogs using DISQUS, and the link is not to the comments, just to the head of the blog in question.

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

 @DonkeyHotay How you love to gloat!  I doubt that all the old posts are gone -- as I already posted (and as you pretend to ignore), DISQUS supposedly allows the migration of comments to other blogging systems.  We will find out soon.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @RobertChase You wanted change from the "status quo", you demanded they get rid of DISQUS ...

 

Reap the Whirlwind.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @RobertChase 

 

You have to click the "share" link, which appears after you hover over a specific comment, then in the pop-up window that appears, click on the icon that supposedly looks like two chain links, it will create an truncated html link to an individual post.

 

Have you ever read the book -- Who Moved My Cheese ?

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

 @ignis Quite right -- I failed to click on "Profile".

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @RobertChase I did notice that some poor souls at Westword had stayed overtime, hopelessly trying to MANUALLY cut, copy and paste a few old DISQUS comments into a few of the recent stories that were published in the last few days.

 

No threading, no coherence, no continuity, no point.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @RobertChase Gloating is my favorite pastime, second only to Competitive Schadenfreude.

 

HipTip: DISQUS and Livefyre are competitors. Not likely either one will share migrations.

 

Your myriad mewlings are down the proverbial toilet ... where A64 will soon join them.

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