James Holmes is Innocent Facebook group no threat to survivors, administrator says

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James Holmes.
At the most recent hearing in the case of Aurora theater shooter, a prosecutor maintained that attack survivors need anonymity because of potentially frightening interest in them by online supporters of accused killer James Holmes. An administrator of the most prominent James Holmes is Innocent Facebook page rejects the suggestion that anyone in her group should be feared, but doesn't dismiss the possibility among other ones.

Here's an excerpt from Melanie Asmar's coverage of the aforementioned hearing, which took place last Thursday, October 11:

Prosecutors say victims of the Aurora theater shooting are "severely concerned" about their own safety and for that reason, the names of all victims and witnesses in the case should be kept secret. The argument came in response to a request from several media outlets to release the names of victims whose identities have been redacted from court documents.

Victims are afraid to go into their backyards because there are "helicopters trying to take pictures of their minor children," said prosecutor Lisa Teesch-Maguire at a court hearing this morning. Other victims have had their pictures posted on a Facebook page maintained by supporters of accused shooter James Holmes, she said.

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A screen capture showing the interior of the Aurora Century 16, where the shooting took place.
We shared these passages with the administrator of the James Holmes is Innocent page, which stands out from several other Holmes tribute pages (and fan groups that call themselves Holmies) due to its nine rules of conduct. As we've reported, these regs feature a special emphasis on trolls, who are told at the outset that cruel comments or attacks (especially those inspired by bigotry or racism) won't be tolerated and will lead to removal.

The administrator, corresponding via e-mail, hadn't about these claims, but she offers up an elaborate theory regarding them, surmising that "any helicopters taking pics of their kids are due to the case being a potential set-up. The people who may be responsible for the set-up probably want to keep an eye on the victims in case they might have seen or heard something that doesn't go along with the official story. Pics of their kids, etc., may be leverage to keep them quiet."

Continue to read more responses from the James Holmes is Innocent Facebook page administrator.


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DuncanHines
DuncanHines

Where is the evidence to substantiate their claim that more murderers are involved?

StarKissed
StarKissed

Now I'm seeing all over the internet that the Creators of "James Holmes is Innocent" think the victims may be actors.  It's interesting how the site owner's words have been twisted.  The owner of the site, said there may be some in the group who think that actors were involved, but opinions are quite varied.  

 

The one main thing that the entire group believes, is there is more to this story, and it's not as cut and dried as "James Holmes is guilty."  There's too many other facts in the case that point elsewhere, and the group is dedicated to unraveling the secrecy and lies that have been attached to this case.  The victims deserve justice, but only when the actual perpetrators of this crime are caught will they receive that.  

 

As it stands, most members are positive there are murderers still on the loose, and justice will not be served by focusing on someone who could very well be an innocent man, who's involvement so far is only circumstantial. There is no hard evidence that James Holmes ever entered the theater, and through evidence that's not been publicly posted as of yet, it would be almost impossible for him to have done so. 

Jerred Moore
Jerred Moore

This article made me sick.The families of the victims are not scared of a facebook group they are scared because they know the REAL SHOOTERS are still out there.

Mary Wawrzonkowski
Mary Wawrzonkowski

It saddens me that so many people are so quick with the negative comments. My advice to you is to not take everything you hear at face value. There are way too many indescrepancies about what happened in Aurora on July 20th to ignore. And you may be surprised at what you find if you actually take a little time to research it. It actually affects all of us more than you know and not just James Holmes and all the victims of that horrible night. I can only hope that some of you actually will look into this more and then think twice about calling those of us who's eyes have already been opened to what's wrong with the case crazy!!

Sarah Buchannon
Sarah Buchannon

I love how Sarah said "Feel free to fact check" - this is what a majority of the sheeple fail to do. They see what the media says and what other people are saying and follow along like a bunch of zombies. WAKE UP PEOPLE! Look into these crimes with an open mind and do your research/check the facts before you open your mouth. Something is terribly wrong with this case and you all need to realize this.

fallingstar76
fallingstar76

Folks, there are always 3 sides to every story - what he said, what she said, and the truth. We will probably never know the truth in this case. In your personal life, do you accept everything that people tell you? Probably not. Do you believe everything you see on an infomercial? Probably not. Although this situation is larger in scale, the same concept applies. Skepticism should be applied to anything the media puts out. It makes one well-informed, not crazy.

dawnetello
dawnetello

Free James Holmes!!! He's just a pawn in a much larger game! Don't put away an innocent man in jail/death cause your hurt by what happened! Do the research the real shooters are still at large!

aniteira2002
aniteira2002

Why don't you all listen and CONSIDER what others have to say before judging them, calling them names, or cursing at them. There aré discrepancies in the case and its investigation, and they need to be straightened out. There is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning the media or any other entity if you are unsatisfied with what they give you. That is why you all were given the gift of a mind of your own- so use it

Jessica Brasil
Jessica Brasil

It must be tough to sit around and wish death on someone you've never even researched! We may be crazy but at least we are trying to do something to change the course of history!! Have you watched accounts of that night? I know every victims name age and backstory. I know every single person wounded and what their injuries were. If it was soooooo terribly bloody then why doesn't one so leg witness have blood on them? All those people poured out the front, where's all the blood?? Tear gas bomb...... Why no coughing or sputtering? If its so slam dunk then answer me those questions....... SHEEPLE IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKJNG ABOUT THEN GET THE FLOCK ON!!!

rachel_tingler
rachel_tingler

I feel sorry for those of you who don't question this, those of you who just believe everything coming out of your TV.  That is a sad, sad state to be in.  There is so much about this case that the majority of society doesn't know and it sure would help if they took the time to check into it.  Otherwise, this sort of thing is just going to keep happening until we have no rights left at all. Anyone who thinks that he is 100% guilty want to explain to me why there were 2 gas masks?  i don't think he has 2 heads.  Therefore, at the very least, there is another shooter out there.  Do you think you might want to find that person before some other place gets shot up?  I sure do.  Is everyone aware that the guy who took the cell phone call and let the shooter in had dark hair and a goatee?  That isn't James.  Where is this guy?  Does no one care?  That seems pretty damn stupid.  What about the 2 people with backpacks seen fleeing the scene?  Where in the hell are these people?  Get your heads out of your asses and do some research.

Rachel Tingler
Rachel Tingler

Conspiracy theorists are fucking morons? No, people that just take MSM's word for everything are fucking morons. Use your OWN brain, people. Do your research. Stop relying on your TV for the truth, it isn't in your TV. Everyone that is so quick to judge without knowing the facts should probably hope that this doesn't ever happen to you, or someone that you care about.

fvckingprincess
fvckingprincess

Truth isn't known by reading a Newspaper.

 

The news stopped asking real questions years ago, & Has been spinning stories since its inception. Peddling believable comfort to those crazy enough to buy it for decades. Owned by the same corporations who depend on the cooperation of the people. The News is the voice of the most powerful entities in our troubled nation, and the crazy people who trust it use that very word, "Crazy" to damn people trying to seek actual truth.

 

If you seek truth with your mind open, beyond the pale screen or news print, you are awake and aware. If you trust what you have been reading in these papers, I challenge you to wager your comfort by researching & proving some independent research wrong.

Summer Nicholson-Arnold
Summer Nicholson-Arnold

I think conspiracy theories are what brings scandals to light. Or some anyway. The government has proven over and over again they can't be trusted with everything not do they let gp know everything.

jennywren9791
jennywren9791

I love how seeking the truth and demanding answers makes us "crazy" ! Well, since all you "sane" people know without a doubt  he's guilty and was a "lone gunman", please show me the evidence you have that proves this? Explain to me how you have information better than the victims themselves that were there in the theater? Where did you get your concrete proof? I'd love to have a look. Because from what I've seen and heard, there are way too many inconsistencies and weird statements by police. That my friends is "reasonable doubt" and therefore I will remain unconvinced until SOLID, UN-DENIABLE evidence is released. It's sad how no matter what the crime is in this country, if it makes the news, the so called "innocent until proven guilty" "suspect" is immediately condemned to death by the people.....doesn't matter if it was a minor offense, the people come out in droves screaming kill 'em, kill 'em. Nice country we live in..................................:/

 

 

 

 

 

3SetsofTen
3SetsofTen

@YoureSoShain Ignore them, they're the price of "free" speech, but ignoring them provides them with nothing. Not worth the time

wncglobal
wncglobal

How do you screen crazies when you are crazy? 

dutchs1
dutchs1

I strongly suspect people who side with criminals, terrorists, etc. are vicarious criminals themselves. They don't have the audacity to do anything themselves, but get a kick out of pretending to be bad@$$es. This may include many members of a group whose initials are in "buy a clue."

His_Shadow
His_Shadow

"She adds, "We do a pretty good job of weeding out the crazies...""

 

If that was true, there would be no members at all.

Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

Try this  . It freaked the hell out of me last night !

Wait til it's dark , go to YouTube , & find Deep Purple's 'Child in Time' .

Next , blow up the image of Holmes on your screen .

Either put on the headphones or crank up the volume and listen to the song while , looking at his face !

Your mind will go WILD !!!...

FivePoints
FivePoints

Scissorgirl: A great team? Legit members?

 

Sorry ... you are a bunch of tinfoil hat wearing loons with too much time and not enough brain power.

Jeff Lignon
Jeff Lignon

I wish Holmes could be tried in any state that borders Colorado. ANY one. Got a bad feeling about this trial.

Luciano Pacheco
Luciano Pacheco

There's way to much evidence pointing to an accomplice/set-up!! And our govt is quite capable of brainwashing people.. So I'd say its possible!! But James Holmes is definitely guilty by association!!!

Johnzo Mcferron
Johnzo Mcferron

Someone should make a page against them... Where has this country's maturity gone?

scissorgirljess
scissorgirljess

Hell yeah Michael thanks for the good words about our group! We are a great team with legit members

Kenny Hanson
Kenny Hanson

Set it up to push for stricter gun control this next election cycle?

Winston Varn
Winston Varn

id say with the FBI and the way our GOV is..Its possible, but what good is it and why.

afabian
afabian

@rachel_tingler ...also, you mention researching inconsistencies. I was wondering if you could tell me where to find the info that helped you form your opinion just so I may have the benefit of reading it as well. Especially testimony from the victims that contradict the medias version of events, but also info on the men seen fleeing, the person you say let the gunman in and I think you also mentioned someone taking a phone call ..as the inconsistencies that lead you to conclude there had to be an accomplice. I do not believe an informed opinion can be made until both sides are investigated.

afabian
afabian

@rachel_tingler ... I'm searching for the truth just as you are. This is merely my opinion, so please do not take it as argumentative. You asked about the second gas mask hat was discovered: I'm in the military and we carry a main gas mask in addition to a backup mask. Think about this...if you're being gassed and your first mask fails..what are you gonna do? Hold your breath? Skydivers follow the same protocol. They have a main parachute and a backup chute. In both cases if your main item and your reserve both malfunction, you're just SOL at that point, unfortunately. Forensic testing of those masks will definitively tell us if Holmes or anyone other than Holmes wore those masks because it's impossible to wear a gas mask and not leave your DNA on it. The mask suctions right onto your face once it's sealed. The person exhaling along with the suction makes the inside of a sealed mask very hot which causes the person wearing it to sweat. Even if the masks were removed and wiped down, the inside of the metal canister (or, breathing apparatus) can not be wiped down. If someone managed to leave no trace of their DNA on the mask it self, just by virtue of them breathing through the medal canister when they have the mask on, would leave saliva inside the canister. Unless police discovered the canisters to be cut open upon their discovery, which they didn't, then at some point the police will know with no shadow of a doubt who wore those masks. DNA does not have the ability to lie. Finding Holmes DNA in the mask is not a smoking gun, but it does make it a little harder to explain away if his DNA is the only profile found on the mask. I'm interested in what your response is...and how you view this perspective. The science I've talked about can be researched on the net for clarification.

rachel_tingler
rachel_tingler

 @dutchs1 Funny, because I have never sided with any other criminal in my life nor do I have the desire to commit any crime.  I live my life to raise my kids and make the world a better place for them.  A better place being one where they are free, one where they are innocent until proven guilty. Facts are facts, evidence is evidence.  If you would check into it, you may be surprised.

techn9nekatie
techn9nekatie

 @His_Shadow crazies as in the people who believe everything they hear. those crazies! i.e. YOU. lol! us crazies are more intellegent as in we have our eyes open and dont believe the media or the official story. research it before you condemn a man.

rachel_tingler
rachel_tingler

 @chancegearheart  @scissorgirljess The idiots are, and have always been, those who just accept what they are told without questioning it, especially when there is such an overwhelming amount of evidence proving that the official story isn't the whole truth.

rachel_tingler
rachel_tingler

 @FivePoints Too much time...lol...sorry, not us.  Not enough brain power?  I'm not sure that you even use your brain.  Don't worry, we'll keep trying to make the world a better place for all of you while you all sit back bashing everyone seeking the truth.

 

midnmax
midnmax

You are a moron who is trying to gain personal significance by living vicariously through a psychopathic mass-murderer.  I am sure that your parents are incredably proud of how you turned out.

jasonseeker1
jasonseeker1

 @rachel_tingler  @dutchs1  I must be a badass, i think james is innocent too. i also must think hes super sexy too, because i follow the case. sorry, but i dont.

rachel_tingler
rachel_tingler

 @chancegearheart  @scissorgirljess See above post. Gas masks. Eye witness account of a man other than James. James' missing roommates. Guys fleeing the scene.  There is plenty more, do your research.

 

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