John Hickenlooper championing Obama: "Lincoln wasn't a great debater"

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The Obama campaign is hauling surrogates all over the Denver metro area today as part of a bus tour to champion the president -- a week after he struggled at the University of Denver in the first debate against Mitt Romney. At one stop, Governor John Hickenlooper told supporters that they have a clear choice in this race.

Plus, "Lincoln wasn't a great debater," he said.

"We just have to make sure we get him re-elected," Hickenlooper told the crowd of volunteers inside the campaign's 9th Avenue field office. "I will do everything I can to help you. I'll be out there beside you.... I never even ran for student council, so most of you guys know more about this political stuff than I do."

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Governor John Hickenlooper getting off the "Colorado for Obama" bus.
Hickenlooper continued, "I can't tell you how important it is. In 29 days, we are making history, right?... It's just like Lincoln. When Lincoln ran for re-election, it was...dead close, I mean really a struggle, really close, and he wasn't a great public speaker. I mean, Obama's a great speaker. Lincoln wasn't a great debater."

The crowd of dozens of supporters and campaign volunteers laughed at the comment, prompting Hickenlooper to clarify: "I think he is a great debater, but the people, the grassroots rose up and re-elected Lincoln. And he has, without question, gone down as our greatest president in history -- one of our two or three greatest presidents. I think Obama is that good. It's been a long time since we had someone that we can actually...say this is gonna be one of the great presidents in history."

Asked to elaborate on the Lincoln analogy on his way out, Hickenlooper told us, "Evidently...in the Lincoln-Douglas debates, by most accounts, he had a hard time keeping up with Stephen Douglas, who was great. That's what I was referring to."

He added, "I go back and read that stuff. I thought...[Lincoln] was a great debater, but the word -- at least as I read the history books -- the word was, he wasn't the greatest debater."

The Lincoln-as-a-debater argument was very much a sidebar to the main points of the governor's speech -- that Obama is clearly the better choice than Mitt Romney and that he is a man Hickenlooper personally admires.

He started his speech, saying, "No president, with perhaps the exception of Abraham Lincoln, ever inherited a larger mess than President Obama when he came in.... Look at the recession we were in -- the potential for a Great Depression.

After listing off various initiatives of the president that have boosted the economy, he added, "Business is growing. Given the depth of that recession, it's a miracle."

But, he said, "I'm going to tell you the real reason that I hope all of you will put even more extra time over the next 29 days," and then talked about the Obama he knows personally.

Hickenlooper has spent an unusual amount of time with the president this summer, and not for good reasons. Obama visited earlier in the summer due to the state's devastating wildfires and then again after the Aurora theater shooting.

Continue for more of the governor's comments on Obama and his debate performance.


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defenseliberty
defenseliberty

@JWFoss good 2 find u on Twitter! Keeping the #liberty cause alive!

RightWired
RightWired

The great irony here is that Obama would have enslaved poor, disheveled Abe with social welfare.

Chuck
Chuck

What's going on with the Governor?  The more he speaks the more I regret voting for him and am pretty sure I won't again.  I don't think that statment is ground in any specific historical facts, more conjecture.

Steven M Palmer
Steven M Palmer

Barry is just a BS artist with a ton of charisma. Anyone with an IQ over 80 who looks at his actual record will see that he is THE worst president ever.

Scott Amelang
Scott Amelang

BO is NOTHING but a LIAR...Hope & Change was never ANYTHING but Lies & Shame..Rock on R & R..!!

rockiesfever
rockiesfever

Um....does "Hick" know that Lincoln was a Republican?

Gueston
Gueston

Hickenlooper has a serious drinking problem. Lets all get him some help. 

Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

Lincoln's popularity came many years after his assassination . From what I have recently read about the man , it sounds as if he was the least popular President while in office .

jwv651
jwv651

Hickenlooper and Obama couldn't match a pimple on Lincoln's ASS!

GorditoMojito
GorditoMojito

...said one empty suit to another.

 

Thumbs up says the Hick.  "You're in the awesome club... just like me and that Lincoln fellow".

 

I'd be laughing if I hadn't thrown-up in my mouth.

CarlCannon
CarlCannon

@aburnspolitico @SamTLevin The context makes it worse! (Gov. Hickenlooper also said Lincoln "wasn't a great public speaker.")

SkepticalJamie
SkepticalJamie

@DenverWestword That wasn't a debate so much as it was a freeform BSathon.

rockiesfever
rockiesfever

 @Juan_Leg he was an anti-racist president to a nation of racist. Like I always say, my favorite thing that obama did was end dont ask dont tell, and like what wee all know what lincoln was most famous for, when the USA gets its head out of its ass about gays, we will remember the same for obama....as well as the first black prez thing of course lol

 

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