Marijuana: Amendment 64 opponents' response to charges of lying? A box of Kleenex

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In this space yesterday, Mason Tvert, a proponent for Amendment 64, the Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol Act, accused the leading No on 64 group of lying and intimidation in fighting against the measure.

In response, the opponents' campaign director sent Tvert a note essentially accusing him of being a crybaby, accompanied by a photo featuring a box of Kleenex. See it and Tvert's reaction below.

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Mason Tvert.
As we've reported, the latest dispute between the camps flows from a Yes on 64 announcement earlier this month involving more than 300 doctors who voiced their support for the initiative. Among these physicians were a number who live and practice on Colorado's largely conservative Western Slope -- but a recent article in the Grand Junction Daily Sentinel reveals that at least three of them now claim they don't actually favor the act. Why not? Two of the docs failed to return calls to the Sentinel, but the third, plastic surgeon Dr. William Merkel, says he misread the letter he received from the campaign; he claims to have thought the amendment was actually an anti-marijuana proposal.

Smart Colorado, the No on 64 organization, pounced on this report, with spokeswoman Laura Chapin telling Westword it fits into a "pattern with the proponents -- making claims about the proposal and about their support that don't hold up under further scrutiny." She also took another opportunity to claim a pro-Amendment 64 commercial talking about revenues the act will generate for school construction is false.

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Roger Sherman.
Tvert's take? He charges Smart Colorado with "flat-out lying" on a number of fronts in a desperate effort to reverse the measure's momentum; a recent poll has Amendment 64 leading by a 53 percent-43 percent margin. He added that attacks against those who've spoken out for the initiative -- including decorated ex-Denver Police Lieutenant Tony Ryan, who opponents dubbed a "pro-pot rent a cop" -- may explain why people like the Western Slope doctors are reluctant to publicly voice their support.

After publication of the item, No on 64 campaign director Roger Sherman copied yours truly on a note to Tvert that made it clear he sees such assertions as little more than whining.

Continue to see the note and read Tvert's response.



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DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

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"Legalization is NOT what this is. 

....  it would be INACCURATE to call it Legalization."

-- Steve Fox, author of A64, during the legislative hearings

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kevin_hunt
kevin_hunt

A64 = six plants one ounce no more doctors visits. Current "decriminalization" = mandatory court appearance and $100 fine for possession of < 2 oz, 18 months in jail and $5000 fine for cultivation of one plant.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

A64 says that DUI marijuana shall remain ILLEGAL

 

A64 says that possession of > 1 pathetic ounce shall remain ILLEGAL.

 

A64 says that possession of ANY amount by ANY ADULT under 21 yrs old shall remain ILLEGAL

 

A64 says that public use or display by ANYONE shall remain ILLEGAL.

 

A64 says that cultivation of 4 or more flowering plants shall remain ILLEGAL

 

A64 says that cultivation of ANY plants by ANY ADULT under 21 yrs old shall remain ILLEGAL.

 

A64 says that ANY SALES by private consenting adults shall remain ILLEGAL -- a FELONY for a single gram.

 

A64 does not remove a single FELONY marijuana crime in Colorado, leaving 10s of Thousands of Adult Marijuana Users and Growers exposed to Arrest, Prosecution and Prison !!

 

A64 specifically and deliberately DISCRIMINATES and EXCLUDES ALL ADULTS < 21 from ANY PROTECTION !! -- the very demographic group that suffers nearly 50% of all arrests for marijuana.

 

A64 = a Continuation of Criminal Prohibition ... written for fools and imbeciles too stupid to read, much less comprehend what it proposes, and promoted by lies and fraud.

 

 

Damon Wood
Damon Wood

Tvert e-mailed the following: "With the election just one week away, I have to wonder if Mr. Sherman's donors, such as Focus on the Family, would be happy with his campaign spending its time on arts and crafts.".....nice one Mason, keep fightin' the good fight brotha

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

A64 declares that Marijuana is such a Public Health and Safety hazard that NO ADULTS < 21 yrs old should be allowed ANY LEGAL ACCESS to it -- not even a single gram or single plant -- maintaining all existing CRIMINAL PENALTIES against them.

 

A64 = a prohibitionist turd, wrapped in lies, sold as a cheeba chew to clueless stoners.

 

 

kevin_hunt
kevin_hunt

Smart Colorado = Mel Sembler, Mitt Romney, Ken Buck, Donkey

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

The lying frauds promoting A64 -- paid pimps Vicente, Tvert, Aldworth, etc -- should be held accountable and Criminally Prosecuted for the deliberate willful deceptions, lies and falsehoods they disseminated upon the electorate.

 

This A64 scampaign was more perverse and corrupt with the truth than anything Karl Rove could have created.

 

Lyin' Brian Vicente should be disbarred for his gross unethical conduct as a lawyer.

 

 

kevin_hunt
kevin_hunt

The donkey is still posting the flawed study that "marijuana causes ball cancer".  Why does the Donkey hate marijuana and want it to remain illegal?  

 

Why does the Donkey give a "like" to a prohibitionist (screen name getAlife) who doesn't believe that marijuana has medicinal properties and thinks that marijuana should not be legal?

 

Proof that the Donkey is a prohibitionist can be found at 

 

http://www.westword.com/2012-11-01/news/william-breathes-pot-critic/

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay Why do even continue to debate Donkey? You don't even support our troops and think of them as "murderers" and that all police officers are "pigs." Your opinion about this subject or any other is comparable to Phelps family. You've played yourself out days ago but then again, you are a donkey. What else could we expect from an ass? ;p

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @kevin_hunt 

 

Current Statute = 2 (two) ounces for EVERYBODY without arbitrary discrimination and exclusion.

 

A64 = NO REDUCTION in Arrests for Marijuana Crimes!

 

A64 = maintaining ALL FELONY Marijuana Crimes in Colorado!

 

A64 = a sham, written for idiots and fools like you, who are too stupid to read much less comprehend what it proposes.

 

Bück dich !!

sfsailor
sfsailor

 @DonkeyHotay Those are sure funny words coming from a fleeing felon like yourself, Corey Donahue.Couldn't face the piper on your sexual assault conviction and had to run....  loser...

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @kevin_hunt 

 

 "The donkey is still posting the flawed study"

 

Let us know when you publish your peer reviewed medical study in the Journal Cancer that refutes the peer reviewed scientific study cited, reviewed and published by them..

 

ROTFLMAO !!

 

[[[ cue crickets chirping ]]]

 

 

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @mattleising  Is this the proper forum to discuss the U$A's Illegal Attack, Invasion and Occupation of a far smaller, weaker and poorer sovereign nation -- slaughtering 100,000+ innocent civilians in the process -- that occurred during the Criminal Bu$h Regime?

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @kevin_hunt Pfffft. Whatever Donkey.

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay Oh Donkey lol :)

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay No I live in this world where we do our best, who knows where your from. Breaking news- were all right about you. When you hear it over and over again its not because we're all wrong or plotting on you... It's just you

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @mattleising  You live in a fantasy world populated entirely by your own delusions and ignorance, don't you Matt?

 

Breaking News -- there is no Easter Bunny.

 

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay That's the problem Donkey... No one is. You are alone and have this false sense of superiority hence comments like,"soldiers are murderers,police officers are pigs, people that work in MMJ and do research on it are black market criminals," and all the other nonsensical crap. Guess what though Donkey, no matter how much we disagree or how much of a disgusting individual that you are, you will ALWAYS be my fellow man. Let us know when your ready to rejoin us, we'd love to have you

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @mattleising  

HipTip: You're not my fellow man. Never were, never will be.

 

hth.

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay Man you just can't quit with all the hate. You prove me right with every post. You are completely intolerant of your fellow man. I pity you

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay That's the funny thing Donkey, it's all based off what you've said so basically... You said so. You need to take a seriously hard look a your life if this how you really are.

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay This has become the "call Donkey out on the b.s. that he constantly brays" page. Sucks when someone exposes how disgusting you truly are doesn't it?

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay I'm sorry but I don't consider family and friends of mine are anything of the sort. In fact, they are just the opposite. You are a disgusting human being.

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay You think all Vietnam vets are "murderers" too? How about Korean vets? WWII? Gulf War? Etc...?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @mattleising  They weren't all murderers, Matty ... many of them were rapists, others were torturers and war criminals.

 

hth.

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay So you call them all "murderers" and not stick the blame to the people that deserve it? The fact that you've never apologized and only try to defend the statement says everything. You're disgusting

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

That's what I thought :)

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay Ahahahahahahahaaaa! Really? Looks like I got you cold... Again. What's next? Oh you're a lying liar! Ahahahahahahahaaaa! It's amateur day all day with you isn't it Donkey? :)

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay Why even debate with anyone? You don't care about our troops let alone anyone's well being or this subject for that matter. You just spew hate and hope for someone to call you intelligent lol

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay Lmao and yet they exist and are regulated by the state! What're you gonna call them all "black market drug dealers" again right after you said I supposedly said it. You're finally at your ropes end aren't you lol

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @mattleising  

 

Amendment 20 did NOT authorize Retail Dispensaries.

 

It didn't even mention them.

 

hth.

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay I'm sorry but people that work in MMJ and the patients are most definitely NOT "black market criminals" those are your words Donkey lmao! Why would you want me turned over to the cops? I work under amendment 20 silly Donkey and am badged by the state. Lmao!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @mattleising  = self-confessed snitch and greedy dispensary shill, who says that marijuana patients/caregivers operating under A20 are "black market criminals" who should be turned over to the cops.

 

 

mattleising
mattleising topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay = known Prohibitionist and rageaholic that believes all cops are pigs, people in medical marijuana and do research on it are "black market drug dealers," and thinks soldiers are murderers. Donkey doesn't work for anyone, just a very angry confused pity-worthy person.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @kevin_hunt  So the American Cancer Society is lying, eh Kevin?

 

You really are becoming the Village Imbecile icepick.

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @kevin_hunt If you have a problem with the peer-reviewed medical study published in the Journal Cancer, contact the board of directors and the American Cancer Society and let them know.

 

Get back to us with their response.

 

LOL!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @kevin_hunt = does more harm to the cause of marijuana legalization and normalization than a dozen DEA agents.

kevin_hunt
kevin_hunt

 @DonkeyHotay At least I don't work against the cause of legalization by spreading prohib propaganda.

kevin_hunt
kevin_hunt

 @DonkeyHotay They told me that it was bullshit and Mel Sembler paid them to write the study.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @kevin_hunt "Why do you think marijuana is a dangerous drug that causes cancer?"

 

You need to ask the research scientists and clinical physicians that ran the study, and their peers that reviewed it, and the American Cancer society that accepted and published it.

 

Let us know that they think of your opinion on the study.

 

LOL!

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