Reader: Medical marijuana centers oppose Amendment 64 due to price-drop fears

Our post about the endorsement of Amendment 64, the Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol Act, by more than 300 doctors inspired plenty of our commenters to weigh in on the measure's attributes and deficits, as well as those who support and oppose it. Here's one reader who believes dispensary owners would just as soon the whole thing fail.

freetheplant writes:

Of course people that profit from the sale of MMJ in Colorado don't like A64. The dispensaries and the MMJ growers that sell for profit want to keep those $200 to $250 oz prices from dropping even further and they know that A64 is going to bring in an extreme overflow of new growers on the scene further increasing the supply dropping the prices even lower. Do you think they want to see $50 oz's? No way. Look at Washington's I-502 bill, they don't even have a protection in place for recreational growing, in Washington even with I-502 passing the only way you can grow and be protected is to have a doctors approval.

A64 isn't perfect, and it could've been made better , but it's still 10x better than what Washington's I-502 is. The cold truth about the MMJ dispensary owners and those that grow for the profit of MMJ is they will never be for any legalization that's recreational. Making money from MMJ is what they are all about and any measure that decreases the price of MMJ will always be a threat to them.

I do not like the Feds just as much as anyone else and I think its wrong when the Feds raid MMJ dispensaries but I won't be sad when MMJ dispensaries start closing up when they refuse to lower their prices down to $50 an oz after A64 passes and that becomes the going rate because of so many new growers on the scene increasing competition.

I'm hoping A64 comes through and succeeds, because when it does, MMJ dispensaries might start disappearing but that doesn't mean the herb will. What will happen is an increase of mom n pop growers will start booming all over increasing supply like you've never seen.

Remember how happy MMJ dispensaries were in 2010 when the state banned mom n pop caregivers from making a profit as well as decreasing the number of 5 people that each MMJ caregiver could grow for? The MMJ dispensaries were glad of that because it cut out a lot their competition.

You'll be hard pressed finding many MMJ dispensaries that are pro-A64 because they know what that means for the current going prices on MMJ.

Legalization for recreational use is the first step towards seeing these insane prices for herb go down as well as cutting out a lot of these tyrannical arrests you see and hear about all the time.

Make Colorado be the first to set an example for the rest of the states to follow. When Colorado passes this, then other states jump on board and do the same, then you'll see prices drop even further. It's time to take the value out of this plant and the way to do that is through legalizing it for relaxation instead of just medical.

I hope A64 passes, it's way past time something like this happened. And all of you who buy from MMJ dispensaries, there is no need for worry when MMJ dispensaries start closing because with the amount of new growers that are about to start popping up all over when A64 passes, you will never be without a source, and even be paying cheaper prices than you are now, so don't worry about it when you see the greedy MMJ dispensaries start closing up shop because they don;t want to sell $50 oz's. ; )

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mich.cannabisunivers
mich.cannabisunivers

"Retail marijuana store" is to A-64 what "dispense" is to Article XVIII...the slippery slope.

mich.cannabisunivers
mich.cannabisunivers

A64 will take effect immediately, tho the legislature will be spending a lot of time setting up the regs for the "retail marijuana store." (sections (7) & (9), page 23 of the 2012 State Ballot Information Book) I wrote a law also, and many were concerned that I might have made the Colorado Relief for the Possession of Cannabis Act retroactive...which I did not...like A64, it would become law and go into effect when 51% of registered voters pass it, Nov 6 or when count complete, early on the 7th. The possession part is a real time issue and the retail store part will be unregulated before it is regulated. A64's lengthy "regulations" pertain to "medical marijuana centers etc," do they not? Michelle LaMay, Proponent #1303-886-7998http://www.relief4possession.webs.com/http://www.facebook.com/groups/relief4possession/relief4possession@gmail.com

besmart
besmart

$50 an oz?  Someone has been smoking the A64 snake oil too much. 

 

A64 is a lie. It does NOT legalize marijuana. It does NOT regulate it like alchohol. A64 will not protect anyone from the feds.  Indeed, it will most likely force a show down with CO the ground center for any FED crackdown. 

 

A64 does not protect you from losing your job if testing positive.

A64 does not protect you from losing your license if found driving impaired.

A64 does not protect you from losing your professional licenses.

A64 does not protect anyone under 21.

A64 does not stop the FEDS from shutting down your center.

A64 does not change federal law.

A64 does not change the controlled substance act.

A64 is a lie. Sold to smokers. To benefit lobbyist and lawyers.

acutoffthetop
acutoffthetop

ounces will never be at $50. it just costs way to much to grow we have a mmc in Denver and worry not about prices dropping cause they wont because the 15%% tax and the 35% we lose to the fed gov off the top no one in business can grow it for near that price so get real micheal roberts. and even the peo that grow at home arnt gonna sell to u less then it costs.. but more about why should we have to lower the amount we can have or sell to one ounce that's dumb how many peo really get only one ounce off 3 plants so whats gonna happen to everyone that has a bigger harvest at home??????????????? time for the pokie........ or the big corps coming in and buying up all the available spots or they manipulate the local gov to help block out any mom and pop shops by making the fees and multiple licenses only achievable from big corporations. i am for recreational use but this bill is too vague and isnt for colorado. i hope something that is abit more well written come along next election.  EVERYONE NO ON 64  in sorry.

Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

Face the facts ;

Marijuana , whether it be legal or not , has had a steady decline in price following the med marijuana initiative's approval . There is such an abundance of product , shwag can no longer be located or purchased . The steady decline in price lead me to give away my entire growing set up .

It wasn't worth the hassle . My card has expired & I haven't a worry or inspiration to pay for it's renewal . What's the point ??? Especially when a mere call results in a $150 ounce , DELIVERED !

Alan_Smithee
Alan_Smithee

It is just a plant .  why should it be expensive ? it shouldn't be any more expensive than the cost of growing it .  it's just greed, otherwise .

Anonymous
Anonymous

What was that about MMCs not supporting A64?

 

I missed it, i was bogged down with photos of A64 signs in front of MMCs... 

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/328889_438481316197504_452468867_o.jpghttp://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/542174_478804015493607_155491198_n.jpg--

To think that mom-and-pop growers will be first in line for retail licenses is silly. We've seen the direction that the regulators, the industry members, and the public is taking the MMJ community....it is not a cottage industry model and multiple regulations have surfaced since 2010 that curtail the scope of a small operation. As the manager of a mom-and-pop shop, I can say that the odds are stacked against small businesses and favor scaled economic models with high capital investment.

 

I can not imagine a paradigm shift with the passage of A64, but instead see the industry grow at the speed the government allows, filtering out many of the smaller operations, just as has happened over the last 2 years of regulatory buildup and sunrise. MMCs will most likely be first in line to apply for retail licenses as they have already been vetted and are already operating inline with local and state regulations.

 

 As an MMC manager, I support A64 because:

 

1) The slanted and incomplete "qualifying conditions" that doesn't include insomnia, eating disorders, PTSD, or a host of other issues that have been shown to be helped by Medical Cannabis, preventing people from acquiring their MMJ card.

 

2) The red tape required to access an MMC, sometimes forcing centers to turn away patients thry have been caring for for years because of paperwork issues, forcing the patients into the black market again to acquire their medicine. 

 

Both of these will be resolved by passing A64 and patients, both medical and therapeutic, can access this plant in a safe, public arena with (hopefully) quality control protocols to prevent the dangers that arise due to prohibition, both to from the government persecution and poor quality producers.

 

shadowintime31
shadowintime31

 @Alan_SmitheeFirst off you have no idea what the cost of growing it is. Cost of electricity at 10c+ per kilowatt hr? Cost of building a grow room, HID ballasts and bulbs, Nutes? Soil? Overhead costs, you can have only one out door crop per year so has to be done indoors during winter. Its not greed its common since!! Why would you grow and put man hrs into it too come out even. ...

 

orson
orson

 @Anonymous  From an MMC manager's mouth - "MMCs will most likely be first in line to apply for retail licenses" - I keep saying and A64 supporters keep denying it.  A64 creates incentives for MMCs to transition to recreational marijuana retail stores.  If A64 passes it will make the whole medical marijuana thing look like a sham as MMCs disappear and the patient registry dwindles to nothing.  A64 is a re-branding campaign. 

thcmc420
thcmc420

 @shadowintime31  @Alan_Smithee 

 

You must not know how to grow............

I can have 4 outdoor harvests a year

Have you heard of light deprivation?

 

YES ON I-502

shadowintime31
shadowintime31

 @Juan_Leg

 Oh yea you forgot to tell everyone on here you were big bubbas punk bitch in prison when u got caught jumping the border..

shadowintime31
shadowintime31

 @thcmc420  @Alan_Smithee

 THCMC420  is a little girl. You dont read what i said you moron. SAID OUTSIDE. GREENHOUSE IS INSIDE A GLASS BUILDING!! I am a career grower. Well known on rollitup forums.  Your a noob that gets on here thinking they know everything. GET A LIFE. Ya u love to see 50 a zip since u cant afford to pay 200 a Zip. Get lost TROLL

thcmc420
thcmc420

 @shadowintime31  @Alan_Smithee 

Dude

Your an idiot. Growing outside now. Works great.Dude I got a card! Dude law says 0 nanograms now it will be 5 nanograms after law, Since there is no proof your are impaired due to no accepted limit in court case will be dismissed already been done in Montana.Its "enjoined". I would LOVE TO SEE $50.00 an oz.

You can grow outside in Montana with a greenhouse !!

 

I can have 15 plants and 24 oz. now

HA HA HA

 

Mike

Read something educate yourself !!!

www.thehealingcentermedicalclinic.org

shadowintime31
shadowintime31

 @thcmc420  @Alan_Smithee

 Dude your a idiot. Pacific Northwest is to cold in winter to grow outside.. And plus your gnna be crying when price plummets to 50.00 a ounce. Plus you don't realize it not legalized with I 502. you cannot grow if u dont have a card.  Easy to get a DUI. U cant have more than a ounce. Thats not legalization.  Bill will get injuntioned by the government. Do your home work research the bill.

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