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Medical Marijuana Enforcement Division e-mail snafu causes backup in MMJ warehouses

For about a week starting last week, the e-mail system by which MMJ businesses send in their travel manifests and receive confirmation from the state has been down.

The problem is causing quite the backup in dispensary warehouses.

Colorado law requires that all deliveries to and from dispensaries and grow houses be registered with the Colorado Medical Marijuana Enforcement Division. The logic behind this rule? If a grower headed for a dispensary is pulled over while transporting several pounds of marijuana, he has a travel manifest that can be easily verified by law enforcement.

I learned this firsthand last week when I stopped by Back to the Garden and found the shop's supply down to stems and shake -- hardly enough to review. The budtender on duty told me the center had product waiting at the warehouse but didn't want to break the laws by transporting it without approval.

The budtender also shared a rumor that the Medical Marijuana Enforcement Division site had been maliciously hacked. But the real answer turns out to be much more mundane.

According to Department of Revenue spokesman Mark Couch, the shutdown was caused by a larger, statewide transfer of e-mail accounts over to Google Mail. Previously, the travel-manifest system had automatically replied to e-mails to confirm they were received. When the state moved over to Gmail, though, the mailbox for the travel manifests was accidentally shut down.

Until that's fixed, MMJ business can fax their travel manifests to the MMED for confirmation, Couch says.

But Jessica LeRoux, owner of Twirling Hippie Confections, says the backup system isn't working, either. Under state law, the MMED has 24 hours to respond to faxed travel manifests -- but she says she's sent seven sets of faxes over the past five days and has yet to receive any response from the MMED other than a standard fax receipt notice.

MMED officials had told LeRoux that a notice would be placed on the MMED website explaining the e-mail outage on Monday, she says. As of 12:30 today, though, no notice had been posted. However, several dispensary owners say they received a note today from the MMED listing a new e-mail address, as well as other ways to submit travel manifests. From a dispensary manager:

We just received word from the MMED that we currently have three options on what to do with the manifests:

1) Fax it in. (You should receive a response, although the wait time is unknown.)

2) Email it to dor_mmedmanifest@state.co.us

3) Print the manifest and keep it in your records in case the MMED wants to look at it later down the road.

We just wanted to update you all to reduce any stress or anxiety that's been caused by this situation.

More from our Marijuana archive: "Marijuana: Amendment 64 supported, attacked by religious leaders in ongoing endorsement war" and "Marijuana: Why ex-drug warriors hate Amendment 64, other drug initiatives."

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Stupid_Stoner
Stupid_Stoner

Regulation Works!

 

Let's give the government total control of all marijuana.

 

Vote YES on A64.

 

nemopunk15
nemopunk15 topcommenter

MMED can't staff them selves, can't process patient apps in a timely fashion, can't process Id badges until next year, can't staff them selves and now they can't get email figured out. 

 

Keep beating them over the head William, they need it, and nobody else seams to care about this massive waste of time, effort and money that MMED has become!

palmspringsbum1
palmspringsbum1

In March google stopped serving ads to my website because they claim I promote illegal activity.  So I doubt they will be hosting Colordo's marijuana shipping.  I had been an Adsense 'publisher' since 2004 and I think I was probably the first marijuana site authorized as a google adsense publisher.  My site is a 'medical marijuana' site and there is nothing bought or sold on it.

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

Since the subject is outside my immediate field of interest, I delayed reading this until now, but what's this:  "... the shutdown was caused by a larger, statewide transfer of e-mail accounts over to Google Mail"?  You indicate that the MMED expects MMCs to send their travel manifests to them by means of Gmail, i.e the MMED wants to use Gmail to facilitate the commission of Federal felonies -- might want to check Google's TOS first!  "When the state moved over to Gmail, though, the mailbox for the travel manifests was accidentally shut down" -- that may be, but with the appearance of your blogpost, a permanent shutdown may ensue.  I hope that MMCs are able to continue to do business, and do so without worry about running afoul of State law.

COlady
COlady

Tried that new email Address 3x today, nothing... no response, no bounce back message... I faxed the forms in, no response there either... so we are still relying on the flimsy foundation of the fax receipt confirmation, at least we are certain the MMED received our fax...  

COmidnightrider
COmidnightrider

This is Obviously Only the TIP of the Iceberg. You wouldn't Believe how many Denver, Boulder, and Beyond, have ONLY LOWERS & SHAKE. WHERE are the Mids and BIG BUDS from the Plants? Is it being diverted from Dispensary Businesses elsewhere, such as Illegally out of State, where Dank Colorado Tops can easily Fetch $800. Per Ounce. A SERIOUS INVESTIGATION NEEDS TO BE CONDUCTED. "Alleged Illegal Diversion from Dispensaries" (google Dimitry for one Dispensary Owner Prosecution for one recent example) is Just another Reason for NO on 64! The Regulators are COPS, all paid off, too! Demand MMED release ownership records and PROVE OUT allegations of Oligopoly activities, widespread Nepotism by officials and police, ownership interests by police officers, their families, Bank Owners, and other huge money lobbying interests.

Gueston
Gueston

Remember 2009-2010???? Those were the days. 

Stupid_Stoner
Stupid_Stoner

 @COlady Regulation Works!

 

Vote YES on A64 so the government can regulate all marijuana.

 

 

Stupid_Stoner
Stupid_Stoner

 @COmidnightrider One dispensary in Boulder is owned by a DEA informant and former cocaine trafficker. They've been denied a city license, and are refusing to shut down or surrender their 400 plant marijuana grow. And the MMED and DEA have done nothing.

 

Regulation Works!

 

BerimBully
BerimBully

 @COmidnightrider You sir are retarded!! $800 an Oz? get back on your spaceship and fly back to your planet cause we don't need ya. The good thing is most intelligent people will read your post and vote yes on 64 to guarantee the are not on the side of the nut jobs!

copatient
copatient

 @COmidnightrider

 Sorry man, but you're a little off base here. There are still some spots with good herb on the shelves. You may not know of them, or may be un-willing to pay the price it costs to provide patients with consistent, clean, connoisseur-grade cannabis.

It's funny that people bitch about prices over $30/eigth (you included Mr. Breathes), yet those spots that sell cheap herb (often shitty and/or tainted with something you wouldn't want your enemies to smoke) are out because they don't have sustainable models. A few of the "high end" shops are still doing just fine. Because their main goal isn't to sell cheap zips and hustle wet herb out of the front for pennies while shipping it out the back for nickels.

 

Also, There is nowhere in this country people are paying $800 a zip for herb. Period.

 

jose257
jose257 topcommenter

 @COmidnightrider Bad legalization is better than no legalization.   Get off your high horse (pun intended) and come back to earth.

 

Stupid_Stoner
Stupid_Stoner

 @Gueston Regulation Works!

 

Yes on HB-1284.

Yes on A64.

 

Thank you Brian Vicente and government regulators, it would be impossible to exist without you.

WillBreathes
WillBreathes

 @copatient  I don't bitch about all prices higher than $30 an eighth at all. I would just like to see most dispensaries offering herb at prices comparable to a caregiver -- and if you're paying over $35 for an eighth of herb from a caregiver, you're being ripped off. I"m perfectly fine with buds at dispensaries getting up into the $40-$45 an eighth range so long as the quality is there.

Jeff-Random
Jeff-Random

Any "legalization" scenario that results in more rules, more cops to enforce those rules and a crime called "illegal diversion" is not real legalization at all, now is it? Boy, have  you been fooled!

copatient
copatient

 @WillBreathes 

Yet it was you who pointed out that many of those shops have little to nothing on the shelves right now. I promise you it's not due to their inability to get a manifest approved. I speculate that it may be b/c to make ends meet (after selling much of their herb at too low of profit margin) they are pumping it out the back door at a better rate than you are willing to pay. I think $40 is a good number on a TOP QUALITY slice. But when you start getting much lower than that, profit goes out the window and keeping the lights on (no pun intended) becomes difficult. Meanwhile, a caregiver who grows in his basement, paying rent on housing and grow-space in one fell swoop, can make it work for MUCH less. I agree, a caregiver taxing more than $30-$35/8th is robbing people. Some people also prefer a secure storefront, reliable medicine, consistent variety, and a variety of products other than dried cannabis. They are willing to pay a little extra for those luxuries. I'm just saying that it's tough to compare the two sometimes. Apples to oranges.

WillBreathes
WillBreathes

 @copatient CoPatient, I'm hardly ignorant to the realities of running a business. As I said, I just would like to see more dispensaries keeping prices lower to compete with caregiver pricing. And it can be done.

 

Your argument might be true if I never saw good herb selling for $40 an eighth or lower, but I do see it and there are shops that are  successful selling quality herb for good prices and not gouging into the $50 range for 3.5 grams of bud.

 

Thanks for commenting and reading my "work".

WillBreathes
WillBreathes

 @Monkey Monkey, I have no doubt that growers can put out amazing herb in their small grows. But some dispensaries I visit do that in their commercial grows as well. Not all "caregiver" herb is great, just as not all dispensary herb is awful.

 

That said, I'm happy to take you up on a session sometime. I always love seeing private garden stashes!

copatient
copatient

@WillBreathes

Will,

With your extensive experience I would think that you'd have figured out that the overhead difference between a personal or caregiver grow is MUCH less than what it costs to run a legit and licensed warehouse grow and retail store. Think employees, licensing, rent, renovations to get up to ever-evolving codes, etc. You sound like one of these kids who swears he could come up out of his 4k watt basement into a 50k warehouse and keep growing the same quality cannabis w/ ease. Whole different animal my friend. You are either short sighted or ignorant. Which is sad since you are supposed to be a trail blazer for this industry. If you had a better grasp on what really goes on behind the scenes, you may change your tune just a bit. Keep up the "work."

Peace

 

Monkey
Monkey

 @WillBreathes  I would love to offer my assistance and help you grow a personal batch better than all dispensary weed, guaranteed or your money back.  I truly believe everyone with proper training and love for the plant can grow better Herb in most any space. I also believe most growers don't have enough training or love to produce buds worth smoking. I have a vast amount of experience, genetics and dirty fingernails to prove it. If interested, hack the comment section and email me directly.  I'm sure you have many who would assist you if you wanted, but I thought I'd offer.

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

 @Jeff-Random You seem like a likely opponent to poll at random -- have you read Amendment 64 through, yes or no?

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