Marijuana: Mexico sees Amendment 64 as way to moderate its pot policy, analyst says

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Felipe Calderon.
The response to Amendment 64's passage has gone international, with Felipe Calderon, Mexico's president suggesting that his country's pot policies may have to change as a result of the measure, as well as a similar one approved in Washington. A marijuana analyst sees the comments as evidence Mexico and other the Latin American nations would like to move toward cannabis legalization and view A64 as a way to raise the subject.

"Prohibition has been a failed public policy in the United States," says Dan Riffle, a legislative analyst with the Washington, D.C.-based Marijuana Policy Project -- one of the principal funders of Amendment 64's campaign. "But in Mexico, it's been lethal. It's been catastrophic."

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Porfirio Lobo.
Riffle is using these terms literally. "There have been 50,000 deaths" related to drug trade in Mexico, he says. "That's about how many servicemen we lost in the Vietnam war. And I think it's been pretty clear for a while that Mexico has been sending signals as best they can that we need to look at legalization as an alternative to a failed policy."

Calderon was not nearly so explicit in remarks made in Mexico City yesterday. As reported by CBS, he met there with Honduran President Porfirio Lobo, Costa Rican President Laura Chinchilla and Prime Minister Dean Barrow of Belize. Afterward, Calderon was quoted as saying, "It has become necessary to analyze in depth the implications for public policy and health in our nations emerging from the state and local moves to allow the legal production, consumption and distribution of marijuana in some countries of our continent."

He added that marijuana legalization measures by these states -- meaning Colorado and Washington, whose pot measure is known as Initiative 502 -- represents "a paradigm change on the part of those entities in respect to the current international system."

Granted, Calderon won't be on the job for much longer; he was elected in 2006 to a single six-year term. But while President-elect Enrique Pena Nieto is publicly opposed to drug legalization, CBS points out that he's promised to focus more on preventing violence against the citizenry as a whole as opposed to pouring all of the nation's resources into a duel to the death with drug cartels. Moreover, Calderon's predecessor, Vicente Fox, is now an advocate for broad drug legalization.

"After he left office, Fox made the conversion immediately," Riffle says. "And President Calderon has been talking about market solutions. I think that once he's out of office, he'll become a full-throated advocate for legalization."

Such sentiments have been tough for leaders in Mexico to voice while they're still in office, Riffle acknowledges. However, he sees change on the horizon.

Continue to read more of our interview with Dan Riffle about Latin America's response to Amendment 64.


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hippie19623
hippie19623

There's NO trucks at the border waiting to come loaded with pot.get real is set up to stop just that .when theres no money to be made in pot. The cartels will quit smuggling into the US.then the federal government con work on stopping the real problem. like meth coke and the stuff that's killing our kids. People need to pull there head out of there A-- and take a look around.

tutonehcc
tutonehcc topcommenter

The semi trucks are lined up at the border right now waiting for Hick to sign so the smugglers can tell customs 'I'm going to Colorado where it's legal!'

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

2001 -- Portugal

 

In 2001, Portugal became the FIRST European country to abolish ALL criminal penalties for personal drug possession. 

 

Personal Possession Limits:

 

40g Hashish

3g Heroin

5g Cocaine

50 doses of LSD - only punished if it is used in public

 

U$A = Pathetic Fail !!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

2009 -- Czech Republic decriminalizes Marijuana and Heroin

 

On December 14, 2009, the Czech Republic adopted a new law that took effect on January 1, 2010, and allows a person to possess up to 15 grams of marijuana or 1.5 grams of heroin without facing criminal charges.

 

U$A = Pathetic Fail

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

U$ Inspired United Nations convention MANDATES CRIMINAL Penalties for Drugs WORLDWIDE!

 

The 1988 United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances made it MANDATORY for the signatory countries to “adopt such measures as may be necessary to establish as CRIMINAL offences under its domestic law”  all the activities related to the production, sale, transport, distribution, etc. of the substances included in the most restricted lists of the 1961 Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs and 1971 Convention on Psychotropic Substances.

 

Criminalization also applies to the “cultivation of opium poppy, coca bush or cannabis plants for the purpose of the production of narcotic drugs”.

chatchat
chatchat

the only weed i will ever buy if i do is US or Colorado grown.  i hope that we keep all the money that can be made from this in US. out sorcing it would be a bad idea.

CoreyDonahue
CoreyDonahue

Yeah all the Mexican down here are jumping for joy.  Except that Calderon  ramped up the drug war down here and is willing let DEA and ATF agents work in Mexico.  The grand delusion, good job Colorado!

betweenthelines
betweenthelines

The changes we made here in Colorado are already impacting other nations. :)

Monkey
Monkey

Next time I see a bag of mexican weed, I'm calling immigration. Good thing I haven't seen one for 20 years. Who are these "cartels" selling this brick weed to anyway, Texans? No wonder they hate weed, they have to smoke mexican, I'd hate weed too if I had to smoke that shit.

DonkeyKicker
DonkeyKicker

 @DonkeyHotay Stay the hell in Mexico, DonkeyHotay aka Corey Donahue, and keep your lame and uneducated stupid comments with.

Monkey
Monkey

 @DonkeyHotay Lucky for us, poppy and coca plants can be grown easily, because cops don't know what they look like. Put both with a cannabis plant next to them and I bet the cops only take the weed.

attbenjamin
attbenjamin

@CoreyDonahue The best thing to come out from Calderon's war besides mess deaths was of course the death of the top most methodical cartel leaders leaving a bunch of trainees. (Unless the US trains more 'defectors') Lazcano is dead, one of the last members trained directly by the US leader of Los Zetas. Aside from that its a failure. Drugs are still being smuggled and new cartels pop up to replace the ones take down. Its like killing a beast and from its corpse two monsters come out of its belly in its place.

attbenjamin
attbenjamin

@Monkey its takes a dedicated channel and if u do business with the cartel ur buying more than just weed and if u fuck up ur head is gonna roll? Who would want such a biz partner? Only shady gangsters duh!

attbenjamin
attbenjamin

@monkey so he can get another bus ride to overtown and buy $15 worth of crack which will last him X amount of time. Medical MJ dealers don't go to Compton and slang up the block with fire weed

attbenjamin
attbenjamin

@Monkey "So,fat cat, he don't he don't front to that nigga no more..." Right, so he has to go to overtown to get a bag of dirt weed for $5 a gram, after begging all day and drinking a bottle of skol there and back - so he can sell this dirt bag of weed to some noob kid (proly 13) for $20

attbenjamin
attbenjamin

@Monkey Who do u buy ur weed from? A dealer that is NOT a criminal right? The CRIMINALS all sell dirt weed. The gangstas the lowlifes especially. The ppl who need it on the front cuz they're crack heads - and they always screw their dealer, right?

attbenjamin
attbenjamin

@Monkey Gangs sell it... u never buy from a black dude in South Beach on the street ur likely to get mexican pot. Another reason why a legal source would undercut the shadiest of gangs.

michael.roberts
michael.roberts moderator editortopcommenter

 @Monkey Love the post, Monkey. It's definitely Comment of the Day material. Thanks.

tutonehcc
tutonehcc topcommenter

 @DonkeyHotay I was at the Attorney Panel Discussion at Castleman's the week before the vote, and Mexican Nationals were present and watching this go down all the while flaunting their Mexican-ness

tutonehcc
tutonehcc topcommenter

 @DonkeyHotay They aren't reading the details, bliss is ignorance.  The headline reads 'Colorado Legalized!' and that's all the world sees.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @Monkey "... coca plants can be grown easily"

 

Try it.

 

 

betweenthelines
betweenthelines

 @DonkeyHotay Oh, you know....The leaders of South American nations discussing a major shift in their marijuana policies due to Colorado's new laws.....Nothing big.... Loser......

tutonehcc
tutonehcc topcommenter

 @coloradommjpatient  @Monkey Things have changed since 20 years ago, the imported brick has definately taken an up-swing in quality.  Plenty of high school lunches are bought with schwag dollars all over Colorado everyday.

tutonehcc
tutonehcc topcommenter

 @coloradommjpatient  @Monkey realistically, there is probably more, much more, mexi bud smoked in Colorado than Colorado grown kind.  It's just us affixionado's don't realize it....

DonkeyKicker
DonkeyKicker

 @DonkeyHotay  Stay the hell in Mexico, DonkeyHotay aka Corey Donahue, and keep your lame and uneducated stupid comments with.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 A: any cabin in Nederland

tutonehcc
tutonehcc topcommenter

 @DonkeyHotay

 

Q:  What do you call a 'Recreational Marijuana Dispensary' in Colorado?

 

A:  A taco cart

 

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @DonkeyKicker So tell us numbnuts, who forces you to read my posts if you despise them so much?

 

Typical slacker-loser, no discipline, no self control.

 

 

DonkeyKicker
DonkeyKicker

 @DonkeyHotay  Why WW continues to let you post on these boards in beyond me. You are a loser who does nothing but pull things out of your ass and insult people.Stay the hell in Mexico, DonkeyHotay aka Corey Donahue, and keep your lame and uneducated stupid comments with. 

sgreene420
sgreene420

 @DonkeyHotay  and soon you will be able to tell everyone how you lost to Robert Chase not once but twice! hahaha  

sgreene420
sgreene420

 @DonkeyHotay  yeah Colorado decriminalized it sure alot of stats did but Colorado residents went a step further and legalized it :-) 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @tutonehcc -- that's all the Idiots who voted for A64 saw too.

 

Dipshits didn't even know Colorado had decriminalized personal marijuana possession back in 1975 -- for EVERYONE without arbitrary age discrimination.

 

 

tutonehcc
tutonehcc topcommenter

 @DonkeyHotay  @Monkey Bienvenidos Mota de Mexico.  Nosotros de Colorado todo son Cabrones en el jardin y necessita to ayuda a por favor terminar la guerra en la frontera..... Way

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @tutonehcc  @Monkey 

 

Wrong!

 

En respuesta al Informe Anual 2007 de la JIFE, el gobierno boliviano anunció que emitiría formalmente una petición a las Naciones Unidas para desprogramar la hoja de coca de la Lista 1 de la Convención Única de la ONU 1961.

 

Bolivia encabezó un esfuerzo diplomático para hacerlo a partir de marzo de 2009, pero dieciocho países de un total de 184 de los 18 que se enumeran a continuación - Estados Unidos, Suecia, Reino Unido, Letonia, Japón, Canadá, Francia, Alemania, Bulgaria , Eslovaquia, Dinamarca, Estonia, Italia, México, Rusia, Malasia, Singapur y Ucrania - objetó el cambio antes de enero de 2011 fecha límite.

 

Una sola objeción habría sido suficiente para bloquear la modificación.

 

El paso legalmente innecesario de apoyar el cambio fue tomada formalmente por España, Ecuador, Venezuela y Costa Rica.

DonkeyKicker
DonkeyKicker

 @DonkeyHotay  Stay the hell in Mexico, DonkeyHotay aka Corey Donahue, and keep your lame and uneducated stupid comments with.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @Monkey  ... TRY it!

 

I'd buy some clones from you if you're successful.

Monkey
Monkey

 @DonkeyHotay It's not so hard, Colorado is a good climate for the plant, especially in the mountains. Cops will walk by it every time. This can help you get started, chewing a leaf is way better than Starbucks, and better for you.

http://www.cocagrowers.org/

DonkeyKicker
DonkeyKicker

 @DonkeyHotay  Again, STFU Corey - you fled the country - take you dumb COWARDLY opinions with you, boy.

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @betweenthelines "No one has ever claimed this was gonna end the drug war"

 

The Lying Liars promoting the pathetic Turd that is A64 DID CLAIM that it would PREVENT 10,000+ Marijuana Arrests Every Year!

 

The BIG LIE! 

 

Fact = A64 will NOT prevent a SINGLE ARREST for Marijuana Crimes in Colorado due to its absurdly tiny ineffective dysfunctional limits and arbitrary age restrictions.

 

 @betweenthelines "A flood of Mexican marijuana here would force other states to at least consider following Colorado's lead"

 

Could you be any more clueless if you removed your brain entirely from your skull?

 

Estimates of Imported Marijuana smuggled into the U$A are approximated to be 10 - 24 MILLION POUNDS of marijuana annually.

 

10 MILLION POUNDS! already flooding the U$A, every year, has been for DECADES !!  ... and no State or the Feds have been "forced" to do a damn thing.

 

http://www.drugscience.org/Archive/bcr4/5Supply.html

 

betweenthelines
betweenthelines

 @DonkeyHotay No one has ever claimed this was gonna end the drug war. It has made an impact. If South American nations relax their marijuana policies on enforcement to the U.S. because in they are now trying to quell exportation of a product that has been decriminalized in small parts of that nation....This is what they are saying...A flood of Mexican marijuana here would force other states to atleast consider following Colorado's lead.....You are thinking in a vacuum.....Actions have reactions, which count.....We are influencing people all over the world right now, believe that......

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @betweenthelines  -- Ask the "10,000+" suckers who will still get arrested for Marijuana crimes in Colorado next year, as the legal impotence of A64 is exposed.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @betweenthelines ... the rest of the World has been doing that for DECADES, numbnuts.

 

It's the U$A / DEA / CIA that forces them to toe the line with U$ interests and policy.

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @tutonehcc  @coloradommjpatient  @Monkey 

 

Smart Mexicans moved their grow ops North of the Border... years ago ... no need to hassle with Customs and Homeland Security ... no need to crush it into bales. 

 

U$ grown Mexican and Asian cartel bud far exceeds the overall production of the Tie-dyed Hippie Cartels and individual Slacker-Stoners growing 3 plants in the closet.

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