Reader: Isn't marijuana less addictive than the caffeine kids are drinking?

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Christian Thurstone.
On December 10, the same day he signed Amendment 64 into law, Governor John Hickenlooper assembled a 24-member task force charged with developing policy recommendations. One of its members? "Addiction" expert Dr. Christian Thurstone. "I was personally sad for kids about the passing of 64," Thurstone told Sam Levin. "But I think that if my service on that task force helps one kid's life, then it'll be worth it to me...."

"I'm not a big fan of full legalization of marijuana, I didn't support it," he continues. "At the same [time]...if I can contribute to one kid not destroying his or life getting addicted to marijuana, then I will have accomplished my goal."

And that's not all: "I've been trying to get the word out there that...marijuana use during adolescence can have very profound impacts that are biological as well as social," Thurstone says. "It's not a joke. It's not harmless."

But is it more harmful than other things that kids encounter?

Says Charlie Whiskey:

Isn't marijuana less addictive than the caffeine that kids are drinking (along with the heaps of high fructose corn syrup) in sodas that they can buy in their schools?

What do you think of Thurstone's inclusion on the task force?


From our archives: "Amendment 64: Marijuana task force meets for the first time, plots "aggressive timeline."


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Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident

You want to know what kind of a reefer madness doctor Thurstone is? The following is from a lecture program at Iowa State University:

"In 2010, he completed five years of mentored research training through the National Institute on Drug Abuse/American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry K12 Research Program in Substance Abuse. He is the medical director of an adolescent substance treatment program and an associate professor of psychiatry at the University of Colorado. His federally funded research focuses on developing better treatments for adolescents with substance abuse and on the impact that medical marijuana legalization has on youth.

"Dr. Thurstone is a team physician for the Denver Broncos and in June 2012, the United States Congress awarded him another title: U.S. Army Major. He is honored to provide mental health care as part of the 807th Medical Command. In October 2012, Dr. Thurstone was one of 9 people nationwide named an Advocate in Action by the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. This award recognizes his research and advocacy of evidence-based prevention that further the president’s National Drug Control Strategy."

So, in other words, he's a White House Reefer Madness plant (think Drunkle Joe Biden) with links to Pat Bowlen and the military (the one that insists the people it breaks were broken before they were in the military, and the one which will punish vets who want VA benefits and use cannabis as medicine.)

donkeyhotay
donkeyhotay

Dear Westword please kick donkey off of your site.  He is just a troll.  I will stop visiting if his ignorance is allowed to insult and degrade anyone that is trying to have a logical discussion.

legalize-it
legalize-it

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2. a stupid or stubborn person
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talk the hind leg(s) off a donkey to talk endlessly

legalize-it
legalize-it

Yes, the people have spoken.  No amount of belly aching or pushing your moralistic view upon other will change that you ASS, I mean, HOKEY POKEY.


We have solid knowledge of what the drug war does accomplish. It promises prison time, lost opportunities unsafe neighborhoods, corruption within law enforcement, loss of life, destruction of family's, strain on our judicial systems, and leaving crimes that hurt others unsolved. Bank robbers get less time than a marijuana distributor, and murders go unsolved at an alarming rate, and mentally unstable people terrorize our population by murdering our family members. Lets spend our resources more wisely.

The drug wars goal was to reduce consumption via addiction rates. Here are the results of the drug war.

* 1.3% addicted in 1914 when all drugs were legal.
* 1.3% addicted in 1970 when we stared the drug war.
* 1.3% addicted today after 42-years of the drug war.

People would lead you to believe there is a third option between the drug war and legalization. There is not. Legalization has shown with real world results to reduce use, abuse, addiction, and the violence associated with it.

Lets try something new, and stop the insanity of repeating the same thing we have done for near 100 years and expect a new result.

vox-populi
vox-populi

The problem with many of these doctors is they were taught that pot has no value in school, and they don't have the REAL background necessary. They don't understand that what they believe to be science is actually reefer madness and misinformation they were given in med school. Unfortunately, guys like this that tow the old-school line end up on these committees and the misinfo is given new life. They really are starting to look like fools though.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

The Stoners and Voters of Colorado have declared that Marijuana is so harmful and dangerous that it must be Government Regulated just like Deadly Alcohol ... that is it so evil that NO ONE under 21 years old should be allowed ANY legal access to it -- not a single gram! -- under full penalty of law!

The PEOPLE of Colorado have SPOKEN !!

Robert_Michaels
Robert_Michaels

@donkeyhotay

You want to kick yourself off for being an ignorant troll?

Just stop posting jackass.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@legalize-it  

A64 = a CONTINUATION of 99.9% of CRIMINAL PROHIBITION against marijuana users and growers in Colorado

A64 = Epic FAIL!


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@vox-populi 

The problem with pig-ignorant stoners is that they are pig-ignorant of reality ... especially "hard" stuff like science and medicine.


vox-populi
vox-populi

@DonkeyHotay LOL. the kids can still do medical. even a 1 year old can get med pot in CO if they need it. The passage of A64 must be very frustrating for you.

Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

@Robert_Michaels  Thanks Michaels . PLEASE don't censor ANYONE ! If this douche bag seeks Fox News type of editing, direct em' over to Daniels & Murphy,  at the Denver Post . They run ANY & ALL who disagree w/ the publication .

I was banned last December for slamming Teblow !

vox-populi
vox-populi

99% of the smokers in CO will be good with A64. 

6 plants and unlimited possession for those that grow. It's a great start. Now everyone on my street can grow without registering with the state, and medical grows will get more respect from law enforcement for jumping through the hoops. Medical is still available, with increased counts, etc.

vox-populi
vox-populi

@DonkeyHotay @vox-populi there are always uninformed, uneducated people who try to present themselves as experts, and the cannabis world has not been spared. But, we do have many educated people who are deeply involved - doctors and scientists, in Colorado. There are as many idiots in any given population. 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@vox-populi

Why is recreational pot so harmful and dangerous that NO ADULT under 21 years old should be allowed ANY LEGAL ACCESS to it, as prohibited by A64 ?


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@vox-populi = nonsense.

What good is "unlimited possession" of home-grown if they can't sell it legally?

What are you going to do with any overage?

Why is recreational marijuana so harmful and dangerous that no adult over 21 can be allowed to possess more than 1 (one) pathetic ounce, or grow more than 3 (three) flowering plants?


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@vox-populi  ... says the gutless cunt who supports Constitutional amendments that specifically DENY RIGHTS to large segments of the population.


vox-populi
vox-populi

sure, there ya go. that's it, lol. troll on.

vox-populi
vox-populi

gosh, you got your panties all in a bind! lol 

Under 21's are no worse off than they were last year. Politics is never an all or nothing thing. 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@vox-populi

Nearly 50% of those busted every year in Colorado for marijuana are UNDER 21 years old.

What kind of cynical, lowlife, self-serving pro-law enforcement prohibitionist pigs would DELIBERATELY EXCLUDE them from ANY PROTECTION, as the provisions of A64 do ?

Fuck you, and fuck what you stand for.


vox-populi
vox-populi

@DonkeyHotay @vox-populi you are completely unaware of the pot smoking demographic. You think a few loud fools add up to the 55.3% of our population that passed 64? Nope, most pot smokers are just normal people who never show up to 'activist' events and don't ever want to be in the news. smoking is a private thing for most people.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@vox-populi ... those willfully ignorant imbeciles are over-represented in the pot smoking demographic.

Cut the bullshit apologetics..

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@vox-populi

Obey the Will of the Voters !! ... marijuana is a Public  Health and Safety danger as declared in A64! ... so much that NO ONE under 21 should be allowed ANY LEGAL ACCESS! -- not a single gram or a single plant... maintaining full  penalties of law against them!

Only a complete ignoramus like you would make the laughably absurd assertion that I "hate pot".

Vox Populi = Vox Ignorami !


vox-populi
vox-populi

@DonkeyHotay @vox-populi 

because that's what people would vote for.

Gosh mr. Donkey, I really appreciate you taking all this time to play with me today! But you're just repeating the same stuff now. Okay, we get it - you hate pot, and stoners yet you hate A64 because it doesn't allow enough. okay! lol 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@vox-populi  "big change"

LOL!

What good is "keeping" overage grown at home if you can't legally sell it?

Why is recreational marijuana so harmful and dangerous that no one can be allowed to legally possess more than 1 (one) ounce as limited by A64?


vox-populi
vox-populi

2z's is still decriminalized. 64 doesn't change that. 

anyone that grows can keep ALL THEY GROW under A64, at the place they grew.

So a Z is for traveling around. I'd imagine, for getting back from the store. I don't know many (any) that need to drive around with more than a Z for personal use.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@vox-populi  "This change is big enough that we can wait for the rest later"

LOL! ... 1 (one) pathetic ounce? ... and only for some adults? ... deliberately excluding the age demographic that represents nearly 50% of arrests for marijuana crimes? 

Simple marijuana possession was decriminalized back in 1976 in Colorado ... for EVERYONE without arbitrary age discrimination. The pre-A64 decriminalized limit was 2 (two) ounces.

With "big change" like that, marijuana might actually be legal in another 100 years or so.

Slacker Stoners are as Slacker Stoners do.





vox-populi
vox-populi

This change is big enough that we can wait for the rest later. I agree 100% that 18 year olds should be included. Again, people are comfortable with 21 year olds using alcohol, so that is the reason. It's about voter acceptance, not science. Amendment 20's (MMJ) passage in 2000 was incremental leading to this. We've come a long way, incrementally!  

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@vox-populi

HipTip -- the State CONSTITUTION is NOT the place for pathetic baby-stepping, limp-wristed, incremental change ... especially NOT the place for ANYTHING that DENIES RIGHTS to large segments of the ADULT POPULATION as A64 does.


vox-populi
vox-populi

@DonkeyHotay @vox-populi seriously are you asking that? Most of the reason that A64 is designed the way it is was so more people would vote for it.  It had to be acceptable to the masses - over 50% of the masses. When you open a door like this for the first time, the unfamiliar thing on the other side can be scary to some folks. When they decided to regulate 'like alcohol' it was merely so the public could 'get it' and understand, in a general way, how pot would be regulated. 

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