Amendment 64 responsible for decline at medical marijuana registry?

Could Amendment 64 be the reason that the Colorado Medical Marijuana registry saw the first decline in active patient numbers in almost a year? Like a late holiday gift from a strange uncle who only sends sensible socks, the Colorado health department posted the figures for October and November late on Friday afternoon.

At the end of September, according to prior stats, this state's patient count was at 107,666. But in October, while officials collected 3,500 more applications than they had the month before, the total number of active patients rose by only 815. That means about 2,700 people either didn't reapply or were taken off the registry for one reason or another. The total number of applications rose again in November, up another 2,801. But despite this, the number of active patients on the rolls at the end of November was down to 106,763 -- 1,718 fewer than the month before.

Is the decline in patient numbers due at least in part to Amendment 64's passing at the start of November? Talking to Westword before the election, Rico Colibri, head of Cannabis Alliance for Regulation and Education, pointed to fiscal impact reports that projected as much as a 79 percent decline in medical marijuana patients if the measure passed. Some state fiscal reports had also speculated that medical marijuana patient numbers would decline if 64 passed.

After all, under Amendment 64, medical marijuana patients -- with real ailments or fake ones -- can grow the same number of plants that they could if they got their MMJ license, and without the $60 doctor visit and the $35 medical marijuana application fee for the state registry. The only thing a license would get them is the ability to shop at a dispensary...which, depending on how plans for retail sales of pot go, could be the only place people will be able to legally buy marijuana for a long time to come.

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DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Watch the median age of medical "patients" plummet rapidly toward 21 years old ....

Since A64 declared that recreational marijuana is such a public health and safety hazard that NO ONE under 21 years old should be allowed ANY access to it. Not a single gram, not a single plant.

A64 = written for prohibitionists and BigGoverment statist tools.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 "fiscal impact reports that projected as much as a 79 percent decline in medical marijuana patients if the measure passed."

Proof that the VAST MAJORITY of "patients" are merely recreational scammers hiding behind the pretense of "medical necessity".


Thinks4Self
Thinks4Self

Actually it is more likely the Orwellian laws that went into effect over the last year. Not everyone likes their information being released to the police via the new computer link just implemented in direct violation of Colorado amendment 19.

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

Hello!? McFly!? Why would a patient keep his name on the registry if the number one reason for staying on the registry is not getting into the system for "possession" when possession isn't going to cause that problem any more?

If I was still registered (I bailed in 2008 when the economy went to hell and there were murmurs about the list being shared with law enforcement) I'd be bailing now. Who wants his name on this list?

Dispensary people should relax, though. At least until there's a reliable place for people to get their meds, the patients who aren't growing their own are going to stay with the status quo.

More to the point, though. If you look at the medical laws, the ability for a caregiver to "sell" medicine is dubious. Thus, under the new normal, a caregiver can just grow the stuff and "give it away" same as before. Sure, they can charge for their efforts as caregivers...but not for the medicine.

See how that works?

Randy E. Skunk
Randy E. Skunk

Just renewed for yr 7. I will keep my higher plant count for med and rec. Fuck them they can't make me pick one over the other. 16 plant count is just fine for me with a 5oz possession limit.

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay NO SIR! It's proof that most patients, when given the opportunity to purchase their medicine untracked, in a larger market, will choose that method.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident "Dispensary people should relax, though."

Tell that to the 600+ dispensary owners and 1000s of employees who were forced out of business and into bankruptcy by the Government REGULATIONS they begged for since 2010. 

LOL!

Like Frankie says -- RELAX ... and Bück Dick ...


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Angela Kathleen ... private growers pay ZERO tax.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Drea Van Grinsven 

Home growers pay ZERO tax.

hth.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 @Cognitive_Dissident  ... only an ignoramus like you would assert that Recreational Marijuana Purchases from STATE regulated retail shops won't be tracked from "seed to sale" by the same STATE REGULATORS that stupid stoners surrendered TOTAL CONTROL to via A64.

 

And A64 -- unlike A20 -- provides NO PRIVACY PROTECTIONS for consumers.

 

You = Lose Again, sucker.

 

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay You know what? They asked for it. I told them it would happen. I even drafted a floor plan for one of them, a friend, for free. I also warned her that doing business with the state was only gonna get her screwed, and when it did, it would be her fault. You do business with criminals, and you get burned. What a shock!

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay Go fuck yourself. I wear my politics on my sleeve. YOU attached the funny leftist bomb-thrower name to it.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@CloudGang  ... what about closeted anarchists who are too cowardly confess the reality of their politics?

CloudGang
CloudGang

@Cognitive_Dissident I am a friend to all NON FEMINISTS.

I don't really like pigs either.

Or corrupt district court judges.

Or district attorneys.

Or social service representatives.

Or snitches.

I don't so much have a problem with habitual felons...friend.

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay

1) not lying, but it's an interesting charge coming from a law-breaking hypocrite

2) not sociopath--no basis for the claim

3) "habitual" has absolutely no context whatsoever, and must be false, since it's coming from you.

4) felon is in exactly the context I stipulated, which is growing cannabis against federal law--though the average American commits three felonies a day, so I wear the badge proudly

5) not a leftist bomb-thrower, so your silly label does not apply.

You, however, are still a law-breaking hypocrite troll.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident "Are you a friend?"

Inquires the lying sociopath habitual felon anarchist.

LOL!

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay I'm sure they'll try to conduct "sting" operations, as they do with sales of alcohol to minors, etc. What's wrong with your imagination, hypocrite troll?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident ... and how, exactly, will the State REGULATORS enforce the pathetically puny 1 (one) ounce limit, eh fuckchop?


Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay Pretty easy, fucktard--The person selling the product looks at the photo ID. Notice that there aren't any implements of tracking in the seller's eyeballs. Fucking asshole troll you are.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident = another idiot who didn't read, much less comprehend, what A64 proposed.

Tell us numbnuts, exactly how they will enforce the "over  21 years old" provision without requiring the submission of a PHOTO ID card ?

Fucking retard you are.


Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay Nope, just didn't indicate it will. It's an unknown, because it hasn't been legislated yet. One thing's for sure--A64 doesn't call for a card of any kind.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident ... so you ARE a moron stupid enough to think that Retail Sales under A64 won't be TRACKED -- with users having to show ID at purchase -- by the same State Regulators who track medical pot "seed to sale".

You = Epic Fool

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay Show me where I indicated recreational pot is and will be tracked by the state (remembering, of course, that this would be "admitting" nothing, as I did not support or vote for A64.)

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident = admits that RETAIL sales of both Medical and Recreational pot are and will be tracked by the State REGULATORS.


Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay Yup! They'll be able to obtain it (for remuneration or not, legally or not) from their friends.  Because they won't be persecuted for possession, no one will know which. Additionally, they will also be able to buy it without a card, if the state ever pulls the thumb out of its ass and provides for the possibility.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident "It's proof that most patients, when given the opportunity to purchase their medicine untracked, in a larger market, will choose that method."


Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay Tell me where I said A64 provides for untracked purchases. I didn't. It provides for possession, and individuals can legally gift one ounce to each other. It's also quite possible for them to illegally receive compensation from people they know well enough, because, as I explained before, law enforcement won't lean on people with less than an ounce to try to find out where they got it.

You could start paying attention if you chose to do so.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident

Your pathetically absurd assertion that A64 provides for UNTRACKED purchases is ... pathetically absurd.

A64 provides for STATE REGULATED retail production, distribution and sales, and A64 provides ZERO privacy protections.


Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay More made up bullshit from DonkeyHotay. There is CLEARLY a requirement to track every purchase at every dispensary with a webcam that takes an image of the card used at the time of purchase--all of which is mandatory for said purchase to take place. 

Of course, some of the recent news is about how the Department of Stealing can't even figure that out.

Did you intentionally forget that, or was it the booze?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident = caught again in the cesspool of his own ignorance

There is NO TRACKING necessary under A20 numbnuts, as registration with the CDPHE is ENTIRELY OPTIONAL.

Tracking occurs when fools register and purchase from Big $$ Retail Dispensary pigs ... and the SAME tracking will occur for retail purchases under A64

You = Epic Fail ... redux


Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay Hmm...look again, and see how I DIDN'T refer to purchases from ANY place in particular. Reading is fundamental, lush. Most of those patients probably intend to obtain it from other patients they know who grow. Hell, they don't even need to break the law--I'll give them some, for example.

Your ASSumptions are what make you DonkeyHotay.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident @DonkeyHotay 

Just remember, that by REALITY and the Will of the Voters via A64, any private sales of marijuana remain a FELONY under STATE law.

OBEY the Will of the Voters!


Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay Oh, it's not an empty threat. As I said before, it's a contingency, not something I've been doing, so why would I remember? I'll tell you when I will remember it--in the case that they decide to replace retail stores provided for in the constitution with state-run swag depots.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident "What makes you think I recall that ...?"

You made that empty threat less than 2 days ago, you drunken lying fuck-knuckle. Is you memory so baked from bong-sucking that you can't even remember what you spew just a few days ago?

%s

...

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay ...and for clarification...for exactly the same reason I stated...in response to an immoral law, contrary to the constitution (A64.) Since you chopped that out of its context, this is not obvious to the reader.

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay What makes you think I recall that, in that context, as what you said? Sure...there are conditions under which I will. There you go. There's still no lie, hypocrite. When will you admit to being a lawbreaker?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident "I don't recall stating a willingness to violate state law,"

You really are a lying sociopath, aren't you?

Q: Should the state run commercial shops for recreational marijuana?

@Cognitive_Dissident : "I effing swear if you do this, I'll start selling."

You = lying cunt

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay I readily admit to breaking FEDERAL felony law by growing for myself. I don't recall stating a willingness to violate state law, but if its immoral or unreasonable, sure. No problem...and it doesn't have anything to do with "agreeing" with it.

The difference between me and you is that I'm not a hypocrite about it.

Now, when are you going to admit to being a lawbreaker, hypocrite?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident ... you've also confessed your willingness to violate STATE Felony sales laws -- and apparently any and every other law that YOU don't agree with -- you habitual criminal sociopath ... aka Anarchist


Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay I never claimed it was. Are you ready to deny being a law-breaker, which is what you've called me (and I readily admit to breaking the federal law against growing pot) ?

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay At least two other users here referred to it and you've never denied it before. Go ahead and deny it now.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident = Proud to be a Law-Breaking Felon !

noted and archived.

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay I'll wear that label proudly, unlike your other, leftist one. 

Where did I claim A64 forces you to consume, grow or distribute?

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