Marijuana: Children's Caucus fears Amendment 64 will endanger vulnerable children

kevin_hunt topcommenter

""Say an investigator goes into a home where you're responding to a community member who says a child is being neglected or, God forbid, even abused,"

You bust them for abuse or neglect and leave the marijuana out of the discussion, assholes.

FrankTheTank

The idea behind legalizing Marijuana, is that you would eliminated the interaction between young people and drug dealers. Last time I checked, a drug dealer would never ask for a ID, nor do they care how old you are; a drug dealer will still sell you drugs. By making a system, similar to alcohol, it would make it difficult, if not impossible, for a child or teenager to obtain Marijuana. Kevin and Linda, in fact, want to make it more dangerous for our children and young people; by facilitating a environment in which not only do our children have access to Marijuana, but now the drug dealer, if the drug dealer wanted to, could offer crack or other hard drugs that could endanger a younger person's life. While ignorance is bliss, by no means, should ignorance flourish in our community decisions. If a child is being abused, or neglected, it is not because of Marijuana or any substance; it is because the parent is not responsible.

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Marijuana use KILLS Children !!

PALISADE — Before Heather Jensen allegedly left her two children to die of hyperthermia in a heated car two months ago while she had sex and smoked marijuana in a nearby truck, there were clues that her youngsters might be in danger.

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22484238/neglect-unreported-before-palisade-boys-died-by-overheating

FrankTheTank

@DonkeyHotayMarijuana, had nothing to do with the young boys' death. It had all to do with the parents not being responsible. Your comment is incorrect, and ignorant.

kevin_hunt topcommenter

@FrankTheTank Looks like truck-fucking was the culprit, here.

thewreckingbelle

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"Say an investigator goes into a home where you're responding to a community member who says a child is being neglected or, God forbid, even abused, and the parents hand you a story about how it's perfectly within their legal rights to grow marijuana in their home. How do we respond to that as a community -- particularly our caseworkers, who are responding to more than 80,000 reports of abuse and neglect in the state?"

This sounds more stonery than anything I've ever said stoned, and that includes a riveting conversation about what constitutes a "pie" and whether it's the roundness, the crust, or something else completely that is the very essence of "pie-ness."

Next time I'm accused of a crime, any crime, especially one that's unrelated, I'm just going to be like FACT: It's perfectly within my legal right to grow marijuana in my home! "Ma'am do you know why I pulled you over?" "IT'S PERFECTLY WITHIN MY LEGAL RIGHT TO GROW MARIJUANA IN MY HOME."

It's my favorite new nonsequitur zinger for all occasions, since I guess that's the preferred, if not applicable, rejoinder of stoners. I hope no one tries to argue with me either, since it's perfectly within my legal rights to grow marijuana in my home.

thewreckingbelle

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All of which is to say I don't understand the point of that paragraph. Is it that the presence of marijuana is abusive/neglectful? Or that marijuana causes abuse or neglect? Or that "community members" will further overburden case workers with false allegations of abuse or neglect based on their disapproval of marijuana in the home?

This is a really ambiguous, uh, "point."

stevebeast

if it will make them feel better i would be willing to continue buying my marijuana from high school students even after the shops open, if it will make them feel better.

Monkey

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Now, replace the word "marijuana" with any other thing considered legal in this state. Do we worry how to respond to parents possessing hotdogs, or growing tomatoes? A64 should benefit caseworkers, they can treat 6 cannabis plants the same way they treat 6 tomato plants and ignore them. Marijuana has never been a danger to children, A64 didn't change that, it only changed the ability of the state to take your children over marijuana. At least it should have.

CloudGang

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@Monkey say a investigator goes into your house and tells you what to do?

Monkey

@CloudGang If I invited them, I would say thank you. If I didn't invite them, I would ask for a warrant.

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

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@Monkey @CloudGang

Government Agents have a permanent engraved invitation ... thanks to cowardly fearful Americans who willfully shredded their own constitution with obscenities like The (un)Patriot Act

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

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@CloudGang ... Monkey's precious pistols will remain unused as the worthless paperweights that they are.

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

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@Monkey ... so what good is it if you ain't going to pull it in Defense of the Constitution from these mythical "tyrants" you gun loons are always ranting about?

You might as well have one made out of paper mache.

Monkey

@DonkeyHotay See Donkey, I knew you could understand. Just because someone has a pistol doesn't mean they have to use it. Good for you Donkey, I thought that kind of common sense was over your head.

CloudGang

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@DonkeyHotay my analogy is having parents force feed their children McDonald's....still.

heart disease is the number one killer of women yet society keeps selling diabetes to our children. Without regulation. A child was just mutilated in Denver yet we are concerned with marijuana policy. Gtfo

I'm trying to do science!

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

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@Monkey "Now, replace the word "marijuana" with any other thing considered legal in this state."

Loaded Firearms, Gasoline, Matches, Poisonous Chemicals, Razor Blades, Hypodermic Needles, Open Bottles of Scheduled Pharmaceuticals, Pornography, etc

Monkey = Analogy FAIL!

Monkey

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@DonkeyHotay My point exactly. If a gun owning, lawn mowing, diabetic pornstar who shaves in the morning before they add anti-freeze to their cars radiator can pop a pill, light a fire in the fireplace and still raise their kids without harming them or state interference, why is marijuana the subject of concern? Many parents have all those items you listed, should the state take their children? Parents should teach their kids to be self reliant, and learning how to grow a garden is a good way to teach them, even if that garden contains cannabis.

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

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@Monkey = epic fail.

Leaving any of the above listed "legal" items/substances around and/or accessible to children in the household is and has been considered child abuse/endangerment sufficient to cause the State to remove the children from said home.

Even the AUTHORS of A64, and the fucktard voters who supported it, clearly declared and acknowledged that Marijuana is SO HARMFUL and DANGEROUS to the PUBLIC HEALTH and SAFETY that NO ONE under 21 years old should be allowed ANY LEGAL access to it -- not a single gram, not a single plant. A64 declared that it is so harmful and dangerous that even those over 21 should NOT be allowed more than 1 pathetic ounce, and should NOT be allowed to privately sell ANY amount, not a single gram.

michael.roberts moderator editortopcommenter

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@Monkey As usual, a very interesting post, Monkey. Thanks.

ryan.cordova topcommenter

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If only there were some way to poll people's opinions in some sort of legally binding fashion. Then we could see whether people's fears over marijuana harming their kids are enough to override the will of the people wishing to use it for recreational purposes in their own homes. We need some sort of caucus or something, or better yet, I know.

Someone should write a law, petition the people to vote for it, and then put it up before the will of the people. That'll settle it!

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

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@ryan.cordova ... and those stupid stoned "someones" should make the law as ambiguous as possible, fail to establish any legally enforceable rights, limit adult possession to 1 pathetic ounce, exclude 10s of thousands of other adults from any protection, and of course specifically allow every city / county in the State to completely ignore and reject important provisions of the law if they so desire.

... oh wait! ... that's exactly what the festering turd A64 did!

Congrats, moron.

barbarian.bob1

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@DonkeyHotay @ryan.cordova lol

michael.roberts moderator editortopcommenter

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@ryan.cordova Nice zinger at the end, Ryan. Thanks.

vox-populi

@ryan.cordova we already voted, ryan. it's a done deal.

instntkrma

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if A64 gets some parents on the weed and off alcohol, the children will be much better off. studies show medical marijuana users generally drink less.

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

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@instntkrma ... it idiotic stoner myth that alcoholics are waiting to "switch" to pot if it were only legal ...

Fail!

instntkrma

@DonkeyHotay @instntkrma this seems to support the myth www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/30/legalized-marijuana-lower-traffic-deaths_n_1176856.html

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

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@instntkrma ... when stupid bong-sucking stoners like you comprehend the difference between Cause, Correlation and Coincidence, get back to us.

barbarian.bob1

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@DonkeyHotay @instntkrma lol

Juan_Leg topcommenter

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Kids who know me, most know I use marijuana . Their parents are friends & have explained it's medical 'necessity' to me . Not ONE of those children have EVER witnessed me partake nor will they EVER !

Funny, once they have turned 18, they all ASSUME I'm to be their dealer . I've never been a 'dealer' & am only now cultivating my own smoke once my 1st harvest comes through ....