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Marijuana legalization's biggest enemies -- and their Colorado ties

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Kevin Sabet.
This week, Rolling Stone published its list of marijuana legalization's biggest enemies. And by coincidence, all five of those who made the RS roster have been recently featured in this space.

And in the case of the top dog, Kevin Sabet, very recently.

The University of Florida's Sabet, a former drug-abuse consultant for the George W. Bush and Obama administrations, was in Denver last week for the launch of Project SAM, an organization whose members include former Rhode Island Congressman Patrick Kennedy and Newsweek/Daily Beast columnist David Frum -- number five on the Rolling Stone enemies list.

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David Frum.
Project SAM's acronym stands for "Smart Approach to Marijuana," but Sabet told us in a preview to the outfit's launch that he considers the group to represent a middle ground between those arguing for across-the-board legalization and drug warriors who continue to think the criminal-justice system is the best way to deal with those who buy and sell pot.

"We don't want our ideas to be able to fit on a bumper sticker," he said. "'Legalize Pot' and 'Lock 'Em Up' both fit on a bumper sticker, but what we're doing doesn't.

"We're trying to have a rational conversation about marijuana in this country led by public health in a bipartisan way that learns from mistakes we made with alcohol and tobacco and also corrects the mistakes our current policy has."

As for Frum, his featured quote on the Project SAM merges a class argument with a de facto admission that legal substances such as alcohol and tobacco may well be riskier for users than is cannabis. In his words, "A world of legal drugs will be a world in which the fates of the top one third of Americans and the lower two thirds will diverge even more than they already do. We have opened more roads to self-harm. Must we now open another?"

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Mel Sembler.
Rolling Stone's number two slot is shared by Mel and Betty Sembler, the Florida couple behind Save Our Society From Drugs. That entity was the single biggest funder of Smart Colorado, the main opponent to Amendment 64, which legalized small amounts of marijuana for adult recreational use. The more than $150,000 SOSFD had given to Smart Colorado by the publication date of a September post on the fight for and against A64 represented approximately 78 percent of total donations received.

Critics argue that Save Our Society From Drugs carries plenty of problematic baggage. Here's an excerpt from a Nation piece about the Semblers that we shared last fall:

The Semblers have been waging a war on marijuana for decades.

Before they led Save Our Society from Drugs, and its sister nonprofit, the Drug Free America Foundation, the Semblers were at the helm of STRAIGHT, Inc., which operated drug abuse treatment centers, mostly for teenagers, from 1976 through 1993.

Former clients of the rehab center recount episodes of brutal beatings, rape and systematic psychological abuse.

At one facility in Yorba Linda, California, state investigators found that STRAIGHT Inc. subjected children to "unusual punishment, infliction of pain, humiliation, intimidation, ridicule, coercion, threats, mental abuse...and interference with daily living functions such as eating, sleeping and toileting." Samantha Monroe, who was placed into a STRAIGHT Inc clinic in Tampa at age 13, says she was locked in a room, and forced to wear a clothes stained with urine, feces and menstrual blood -- a punishment her counselors called "humble pants."

Richard Bradbury, a former STRAIGHT patient and counselor-turned-whistleblower, told the St. Petersburg Times that Monroe's experiences weren't unique. "It was pure child abuse," Bradbury told reporters. "Torture."

Continue for more about the Rolling Stone list of marijuana legalization's biggest enemies.


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JimTom
JimTom

I tried  telling all the young idots to vote against this stupid bill. They didn't listen and now I have to keep agreeing with Donkey and that makes me feel dirty.  

TheSpleen
TheSpleen

DonkeyHotay is obviously suffering from serious emotional disturbance: wanna bet that these boards are his only social outlet? This is a man with no real friends and no serious, deep relationships. Look at how often he posts and the animosity directed at others within those posts: you can read the self-loathing between each line. 

It is really unfortunate that WW allows him to dominate these boards with language of sexual violence (rape, fisting, etc) and predation. By doing so, Westword is granting permission for an emotionally and psychologically disturbed little snot to infect their publication with his disease.

Jim_Beam
Jim_Beam

@Dickeyhotay etc.  So if you are ignored long enough you create new accounts to have conversations with yourself and pat yourself on the back to gain approval from yourself?  Get out of your moms basement and make some "real" friends the weather is nice. 

hth

Wintermute
Wintermute

WANNA SEE  HOW "REGULATION WORKS"? Here are some bills introduced already in the Colorado General Assembly. Now, let's hear all the arguments for A64 pot pimps about how this is a "step in the right direction." You were lied to by the A64 campaign, and this is the result of your misguided vote to give all control of cannabis to the government.

HB 13-1114 - Inferences For Marijuana And Driving Offenses

Sponsored by Rep. Mark Waller (R-El Paso County) and Rep. Rhonda Fields (D-Arapahoe County)

Creates a 0.5ng THC level in whole blood as "permissible inference" that a person was driving under the influence of marijuana. This means all they have to do is show that a person had that amount of THC in their blood. They DO NOT have to prove actual impairment. Almost ALL PATIENTS and CHRONIC USERS in Colorado will be at risk under this statute.

SB 13-051 - Concerning Fire Inspections for Marijuana Cultivation

Sponsored by Sen. Randy Baumgardner (R-Cowdrey)

From the state's summary: "The bill would require a local fire department to annually inspect each medical marijuana optional cultivation premises, each primary caregiver cultivation location, and each marijuana grow building in its jurisdiction. The fire chief may charge a fee of no more than $100 for the inspection."

From the proposed statute: "A primary caregiver who cultivates medical marijuana for his or her patients shall have an annual fire inspection conducted by the fire department having jurisdiction over the cultivation location. Each fire department shall determine whether there are any primary caregiver cultivation locations in its jurisdiction using the information collected by the state medical marijuana licensing authority."

You can bet if the state is going to require inspection of caregivers' homes, that this provision will soon be extended to anyone who wants to grow pot under A64.

And remember, there is NO RIGHT TO CONFIDENTIALITY in A64, so this list will be a PUBLIC list.

HB13-1061 - Responsible Medical Marijuana Vendor Program

Clearly, this is a special interest bill, introduced to help along some industry crony who paid off Rep. Dominich Moreno (D-Adams County) to introduce ti. HB 13-1061 creates rules for anyone who wants to open a "Responsible Medical Marijuana Vendor Server and Seller Training Program." Perhaps this is designed for the McLawyer sharks like Brian Vicente who are trying to make money of teaching people how to comply with the regulations?

WANNA SEE MORE HOW "REGULATION WORKS"? Search for the word "marijuana" on the 2013 bills page. This is only the beginning!!!! Buck dich, suckers!

http://www.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2013A/csl.nsf/Search?OpenFrameSet

CanU420
CanU420

Speaking of over-regulation, here's a post from Jessica Cheesecake's Facebook page (writing as Beth Gonnaget). Apparently, Ms. Cheesecake is on or is monitoring the governor's task force set to implement Am. 64.

Here is the report from Ms. Cheesecake last Thursday:

"today's Criminal Enforcement sub-workgroup meeting of the A-64 task force was not very encouraging... 10-15 minute E-warrants for blood draws, and non-medical professional applied blood draws were on the list, as well as the "conflict" in 64 over possessing the whole weight of a 6 plant grow in the home when the wording clearly states possession limit is one ounce... Banning of "social clubs" discussed and endorsed, removing a child from the home for child endangerment if parents smoke in front of them (lets recall that seeing dad having a beer with dinner is what most kids see everyday, and we voted to regulate like alcohol.) Limiting plants counts per house no matter how many adults live in the house, and about 20 other bullet points along this vein were given serious credence, and worst of all the public was forced to speak 1st , so we were unable to rebut any misguided or unscientific points that the working group of 4 members made..."

Who didn't see this coming?

Wintermute
Wintermute

The biggest threats to marijuana "legalization" are the A64 pot whores who promoted their "REGULATION" initiative to the eager and stoned public as "LEGALIZATION". When the LIES come from supposed pro-pot people, they are way more harmful than any lies SAM or the DEA or DARE makes. A64 is MORE PROHIBITIONS disguised as LEGALIZATION, and the stupid stoners who voted for it didn't even bother to read it. If they did, they would have seen that this was a set-up for the police to gather a list of all pot smokers/growers in the state. A64 doesn't authorize a registry, you say? Then how exactly will they enforce their ONE OUNCE LIMIT? The govt. is going to have to have a list to make sure you are not buying more than one ounce in a day, week, month? Who knows what the time period is, cuz A64 doesn't say. They left that up to the jack-booted thugs they call REGULATORS to decide this for you.

Recently, more lies from Washington DC lobbyist Steve Fox, author of A64, who spoke at a Brookings Institute event on Jan. 12. Fox DIRECTLY LIED again about marijuana law in Colorado when he claims that all Colorado dispensary owners are 'FELONY-FREE and LEGITIMATE". The CARE Alliance points out in an email that "under the medical marijuana code in Colorado can be a rapist, child molester, pimp, murderer or con artist all defined as violations of moral turpitude under the law the criteria for licensing as long as that felony charge is at least five years old and still own a medical marijuana business here in Colorado"

FELON COMMENT 1:30:00 AND THEN HIS QUESTION AT 1:30:30.
http://archive.org/details/CSPAN_20130113_020000_Marijuana_Laws#start/5400/end/5430

LYING LIARS WHO LIE THAT CANNABIS IS AS HARMFUL AS ALCOHOL ARE THE BIGGEST THREAT TO REAL LEGALIZATION. Get educated, don't fall for this government BS. 

ephitall
ephitall

I think that SAM is a great approach. Until marijuana is address on an intellectual level, it will not go anywhere. There isn't very many people, especially congress, that is going to listen to a stoned bunch of street language. When in Russia, speak Russian...if you know what I mean. They can't argue when you put the facts in front of them in their own language and with enough people behind them It is also important to let them know that it is not just one group that wants it legalized it is everyone from people on Wallstreet, Businesses, CEOs you name it.

Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

The Gov has yet to figure out how to replace all the billions lost,  generated by the legalization of marijuana .

redmosquito2
redmosquito2

Kevin Sabet is in CO campaigning against the will of the people if you will, meanwhile in Broward county FLORIDA,  there are three to four pain clinics on every block.  The pain clinics offer nothing but pain management via opiates.  With ~11 people dying everyday via opiate overdose and teens being hooked left and right, you would think the moron Sabet would be front and center in Broward, but I guess the "demon weed" is worse  that RX opiates, after all, pills are made in a lab......feel free to message kev-Kev, I did. http://www.facebook.com/kevinsabet?fref=ts

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

The Semblers, Leonhart, and Kerlikowske are filty traitors; enemy combatants against our People and Constitution.  These swine are responsible for countless ruined lives and deaths -- over 60,000 in Mexico alone over just the past few years -- and for turning the self-styled "land of the free" into the world's leading jailer.  There should be no safe haven for rabid animals like these anywhere on Earth, much less in the United States of America.  If every drug law were repealed tomorrow, the need to purge our nation of human filth like them would remain a matter critical for the survival of American Liberty.  If our country were now peopled with patriots (instead of consumers), they would not exist.  As for Patrick Kennedy, Sabet, and Frum, they may not have perpetrated as much harm as the others, but they are of the same ilk -- there is no middle ground on adults' use of drugs:  either you believe in the Founders' vision of a nation of freely associating, self-governing individuals, or you are an authoritarian and a fascist.  Death to fascists!

kevin_hunt
kevin_hunt

@TheSpleen WW banned the Donkey last summer and site traffic dropped 99%.  They brought him back because arguing with the Donkey is addictive.

The Donkey is here to stay at WW.... unless the HAMC catches up with him.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@TheSpleen  ... so tell us who -- exactly -- is forcing you to read my posts?

Be specific, and show your work.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Jim_Beam ... or ... you're just another delusional bong-sucking fuckwit.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Wintermute

Note: HB 13-1114 limits THC to 5 (five) nanograms per milliliter of blood, which is that same pathetically LOW limit that the anti-marijuana law-enforcement repuglycans have always wanted, and that the cowards at NORML and the greedy self-serving dispensary cartel pigs at MMIG have endorsed.

It means that nearly ANY regular user of marijuana will be in fact a CRIMINAL if they ever drive a motor vehicle. And the newly added "permissible inference" means you're DOUBLE FUCKED!

Excellent PERPETUAL REVENUE $$$ for the Marijuana McLawyers like Lyin' Brian Vicente, et. al. who promoted this bullshit.

Stupid Stoners ALWAYS get fucked in the ass ... and even fucked themselves in the ass with A64! ... that's why they're called Stupid Stoners!

Wonder if the Law Enforcement goons will catch wind of the fact that the CBD's in marijuana can ALSO add to driver impairment, and include CBD's along with THC in their new law?


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@CanU420

  • 10-15 minute E-warrants for blood draws
  • Banning of "social clubs" discussed and endorsed
  • CPS removing children from home for child endangerment if parents smoke in house

Booooooo yaaaaaaaah! ... FEEL that REGULATION all up inside you now, Stoners ??

You fucking pig-ignorant clueless bong-suckers DESERVE every INCH of the BigGovernment FIST of REGULATION that you BEGGED FOR up your collective colons.


Now Bück Dich and take it up the ass like the whiny little bitches that you are!


CanU420
CanU420

More from Ms. Cheesecake aka Beth Gonnaget on Facebook:

"we only had 6 people show up today to represent, we are gonna need to really up those numbers ASAP! If they perceive public apathy they will run wild doing what ever they want!"

This is so funny because the big-money marijuana industry representatives are the ones that are begging for this regulation, just like they did with HB1284 in 2010. Who does Ms. Cheesecake think is going to step up and speak out against this, if the industry refuses to fund a campaign against it and is actually supporting it? Is she waiting for the patients to stand up for the dispensaries, after the dispensaries have abandoned the patients and sacrificed their privacy every chance they have gotten over the past 3 years?!?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Wintermute

A64 Pimps = Lying Scumbag Liars and Pro Big Government Regulation, Pro Big Taxation Whores!

... and the clueless bong-sucking zit-faced nose-picking stoners were pig-ignorant enough to believe the blatant lies they were dutifully spoon-fed by Westword's uncritical regurgitation of the deliberately deceptive dishonest press releases crapped-out by Lyin' Brian Vicente and Mendacious Mason Tvert.

Hey Stoner Fucktards -- REGULATION WORKS !! ... for the Jack-booted Government REGULATORS!

Stupid Stoners DESERVE to get sodomized by the FIST of REGULATION they contemptibly begged for -- now Bück Dich, suckers!!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ephitall "Until marijuana is address [sic] on an intellectual level, it will not go anywhere. There isn't [sic] very many people, especially congress, that is [sic] going to listen to a stoned bunch of street language. [sic]"

Ironic ... yet not surprising.


rockymissouri1
rockymissouri1

@redmosquito2 Sabet is a moron....along with Frum, Patrick Kennedy..and the Semblers..... I am so sorry we have to endure these people.... Too bad they cannot inform themselves - for the sake of the people they profess to care about...... Thank you for the link.

Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

@RobertChase   Call me ! I lost your # ! I've been worried about you my friend . NO ONE has heard from you .

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@kevin_hunt @TheSpleen 

Nobody puts Donkey in a corner ...


Wintermute
Wintermute

@DonkeyHotay Of course! With companies like Dixie Elixir now selling "non-THC" CBD products, the feds are sure to amnend the Controlled Substances Act to include this new threat:
%s

CBD has anti-nausea, anti-inflammatory and anti-tumor properties even greater than THC.

Once farmers figure out that their low-THC hemp strains (<0.3%% THC under Am. 20) are actually high in CBD (3-4%%), they will start manufacturing low-THC hemp as a CBD medicine crop, giving further control to government police forces to enforce THC and CBD limits.

"If the camel once gets his nose in the tent, his body will soon follow."

TheSpleen
TheSpleen

YOU are so fucking stupid that you take that stupid woman's words at at face value. Neither do you seem to understand that in medicated beverages (like Marquaha), the THC isn't extracted into the water of the drink, you ridiculous fucking asshat. 

JimTom
JimTom

Let's hope not or are only saving human philosophy is screwed!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Wintermute

BTW -- the standing joke at the Testing Labs was the reality that the various MMJ beverages had little -- if any -- THC content in them, which the tests proved, and the beverage companies suppressed.

Any chemist worth his roach-clip knows that THC -- being non-polar -- is not water soluble, hence the futility -- and utter fraud -- of water/soda based marijuana beverages.

Sláinte !

Wintermute
Wintermute

@DonkeyHotayEvery pot user of ANY age will become fodder for the State Marijuana Regulatory $ystem, which will require RFID tracking chips and a non-confidential registration and fee system if you want the "freedom" to grow or buy one ounce of cannabis. 

The beauty of A64 from the law enforcement side is that it takes marijuana control out of the Criminal JustU$ system, and puts it into the hands of the state REGULATORY system. The penalties will no longer be applied through criminal statutes and you will NO LONGER HAVE A JURY of YOUR PEERS determining whether you are guilty or not guilty. The trier of fact becomes a GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRAT, not a JURY, and thusly you are automatically guilty with the "right" to appeal your case to another GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRAT.

Taking marijuana out of the criminal JustU$ system was a stroke of genuis by our martini-drinking counterparts in law enforcement. No more of those pesky juries and their not-guilty verdicts. If we make all the penalties ADMINISTRATIVE punishment and not criminal punishment, we can do whatever we want with these stoners! 

Ibid.

Q.E.D.

Sieg heil and Buck dich!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Juan_Leg ... you can't "fix" a fucked-up CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT !! ... anymore than you can "fix" an unwanted pregnancy.

The LEGISLATURE cannot modify the Constitution via ordinary statute.

The FUCKED-UP A64 is now the PERMANENT FUCKED-UP law of the land. 

There is no "fixing" -- you stupid stoners broke it, you bought it! ... now Bück Dich and get REGULATED, suckers!



Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

@DonkeyHotay  Isn't the 'Task Force' purpose to address this and other obvious issues ? Kathleen Chippi is a member of this team and from what I have read , is FANTASTIC representation of MANY of the problems and issues we have voiced our concern .

Where do we go from here but up ? A lot of people fuck up in the beginning and fix the problems as they go . You haven't given this FUCKED UP AMENDMENT a chance to be fixed .

I doubt enough people actually visit the sites you list . I do and have found almost all to be fascinating and informative .

 Ms Chippi is often in these blogs and I KNOW hears you ! Campaign to get yourself on  the committee with her . Wouldn't hurt to try .

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Juan_Leg @DonkeyHotay

Every recreational Pot user under 21 years old will still be fodder for the Criminal JustU$ system, thanks to A64 excluding them entirely.

Every recreational Pot user over 21 who dares to possess more than 1 pathetic ounce will still be fodder for the Criminal JustU$ system, thanks to A64's pathetically puny limits.

Every recreational Pot user over 21 who dares to grow more than 3 flowing plants will still be fodder for the Criminal JustU$ system, thanks to A64's pathetically puny limits.

Every recreational Pot user who dares to sell any amount -- even a single gram -- will still be fodder for the Criminal JustU$ system, thanks to A64's exclusions and preference for Big$$ Government Controlled Retail Cartels.

A64's arrest reduction = FUCKING ZERO! ... the insatiable maw of the Prison Industrial Complex will not lack for stupid stoners who falsely assume pot is "legal".


Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

@DonkeyHotay The $$$ generated via EVERY facet .

From $$ spent towards the alleged 'War on Drugs',  all the way to the profits from the .56 a day laborer . It's serious,  serious money involved .

I STILL can't believe I'm officially growing !!! 

Ooops . Sorry about the bout the outburst . Thanks to a series of informative exchanges , I won't be spending $500 on bud per month any longer !!!!!

TY Cog !!!!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@RobertChase = still trying to cover up his pathetic pig-ignorance.

You claimed Vick's VapoRub contained METH, repeatedly, in spite of numerous corrections and admonitions by me, you continued to falsely assert that Vick's VapoRub contained meth. 

You continued this idiocy over DAYS of debate -- when a simple Google search would have shown you the error of your ignorance. But no, you compounded your foolishness by repeating your error, each time with more blind certitude.

I even pointed you to the INGREDIENT page for Vicks .com which clearly shows that VapoRub does NOT contain "METH" as you laughably asserted, and re-asserted, and then doubled-down and myopically declared yet again.

"I wrote that Vick's VapoRub contains methamphetamine, and the statement is true." 
-- Robert Chase

Your statement is FALSE. and every time you repeated it it was FALSE.

When you finally backtracked and retreated to admitting your blatant error, you once again attempted to assert knowledge which you do not possess by claiming that the   levmetamfetamine contained in another Vick's product was "METH" -- and you were once again schooled in your ignorance regarding optical isomers and how the levo enatiomer has almost no effect on the Central Nervous System, which is why it is allowed in OTC products ... because contrary to your ABSURDLY FALSE claims, it -- nor any OTC product -- does NOT contain Meth as you attempted, and still attempt, to imply.

You're not back 24 hours and you're already proving yourself to be the same pompous bombastic deceitful know-nothing blowhard that you were when you turned tail and ran away months ago.

Congratulations!


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Juan_Leg  ... the only danger is believing the erroneous nonsense that Robert Chase posts about things he knows nothing about.

There is no "meth" -- or any other amphetamine -- in Vick's VapoRub.


Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

Call me boring but I've only done 'speed' once and it kept me up for nearly five days . I snorted two little lines & it was over .

My 'ILLEGAL drug' involvement has always been w/ pot . I've never even smoked crack . I recall 'free-basing' a few times in the 80's but 'tweeks' make me extremely uncomfortable .

Hotay, thank you for opening mt eyes to the danger of Vick's . Though I have yet to have need for it this season, it has been tossed forever !


Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

@DonkeyHotay  I guess it's 'my turn' this morning but I'm no fun to argue with , because when I don't know,  I SHUT UP & ask questions ....

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Juan_Leg ... so glad you asked.

"I wrote that Vick's VapoRub contains methamphetamine, and the statement is true." 
-- Robert Chase

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