Marijuana showdown: Mason Tvert to take on Patrick Kennedy prior to Project SAM launch


"When he suggests that the use of marijuana by adults is in any way as dangerous as the use of alcohol, he's doing a disservice not just to society in general, but particularly to young people, who deserve to hear the facts about the relative harms of these substances," Tvert says.

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Kevin Sabet.
He also takes issue with Sabet's horse-is-out-of-the-barn analogy.

"Under marijuana prohibition, there is no barn to escape from. It's running wild. What we need to do is to create a barn where we can control this product. And given that marijuana isn't remotely as harmful as alcohol according to every objective study on it, including government research, it's simply illogical to work to keep a safer alternative to alcohol illegal. But they recognize that the writing's on the wall, and they now need to come up with a new way of trying to pursue the goal they've been pursuing for years -- maintaining marijuana prohibition."

Likewise, Tvert scoffs at Sabet comparing legalization to a 300 miles-per-hour train. "We've been engaging in public debate over this issue in Colorado for eight years, and have debated it intensely in the two years leading up to November's election," when Amendment 64 was approved. "It's not as if overnight a law was created without anyone knowing about it. This was a campaign in which voters heard about the issue and had years to review it, and they decided that marijuana prohibition doesn't make sense and we needed a new approach.

"If this is going 300 miles per hour, I can't fathom what anything slower would be going. The governor has created a task force to develop recommendations about how to implement Amendment 64; the legislature will deliberate on what recommendations should be implemented; and the Department of Revenue will develop rules it will enforce. There's no other way to go about this type of policy change.

"I recognize that Kevin Sabet would like us to sit around for the next decade doing nothing to change marijuana laws. But he's on the wrong side of history. The rest of our society is evolving much more quickly on this issue than he is."

The press conference starring Tvert will take place outside the Denver Press Club at 9:30 a.m., an hour prior to the Project SAM launch at the same location.

More from our Marijuana archive: "Marijuana: Project SAM touts public-health approach to pot in fighting legalization."


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jose257
jose257 topcommenter

We the People petition Obama to replace liquor stores with marijuana dispensaries.

http://wh.gov/PHy5

Any liquor store that stops selling alcohol gets an automatic license to sell marijuana.

ZZardozz
ZZardozz

Being a fan of both high speed rail AND cannabis, I want to get on that 300 mph train!   Where can I buy a ticket?

kevin_hunt
kevin_hunt

Sabet, Frum, and Kennedy represent the state-of-the art in prohibitionist technology, which is based on 1920's yellow journalism and 1980's Reagan Propaganda.

It's obvious that Kennedy is protecting the interests of the pharmaceutical industry, since he has taken campaign money from them in the past.

Dr. Sabet is a doctor of public policy (the art of bullshitting), not a medical doctor.  

It wouldn't surprise me if Mel Sembler was backing this anti-marijuana campaign with the hopes of cashing in on the hundreds of thousands of citizens that will be forced to attend his re-education camps in lieu of jail time once 'smart enforcement' is the law of the land.  Sembler has previous experience running 'treatment centers'.

Message to Frum, Sabet, and Kennedy: We WILL ride your drug war slaver asses out of town on a rail!

Melvin Sembler, a Florida State Co-Chair for Mitt Romney’s finance committee ran a chain of teen drug "rehab" clinics (Straight, Inc) that had a track record of extreme abuse. This abuse included kids being thrown against walls, held against their will, kidnapped, restrained in leg irons, forced into servitude, and raped."

Source: http://www.thefix.com/content/romney-sembler-drug-advisor-teen-rehab-abuse8515


MikeParent
MikeParent

I wonder if Patches told the Officer who arrested him for DUI @ 3am,  "Do you know who I am?"

He's a reprobate who has a Wike Page that reads like a "Rap Sheet".  And marijuana was not a contributory factor in any of his legal issue.  Nope, they were all booze and Oxy inspired, except for the ones based upon his arrogance.

HotayisaDick
HotayisaDick

Clock ticking for a response from DonkeyHotay, which will certainly contain some derogatory comments in my direction, some other hate-spew about pot. Bring it on. I'm walking away from my computer. So should you.

HotayisaDick
HotayisaDick

I'm really impressed with the dedication to your craft, Donkey. Being a ruthless internet stalker and jerk off has been perfected! Right before our very eyes. 

Everyone: Imagine the time commitment, vitriol and contempt that this person has focused into posting these bullshit whips back at everyone and anyone who has a different opinion than they do! 

I'm amazed. I wanted to say 'get a job' (but obviously THIS is your self-proclaimed job) I wanted to also say some more colorful things in your direction, but reading your posts is tiresome and paints you in an incredibly pathetic light, which is more powerful than anything I can say or do.

Hotay; Git it up, random internet stalker. We don't know you, don't like you and could give a shit less about what you think.

kadargo
kadargo

A month ago today, Hickenlooper signed A64 into law.  Since then I'm not seeing, being reported in the news, all the problems that cannabis legalization would bring.  I do, however, continue to see in the news all the problems still being caused by users of alcohol.  See your local news for more information.
 

jose257
jose257 topcommenter

It makes sense that the Kennedy family, who made their fortune smuggling alcohol, would be against a competiing substance called marijuana.

If I had a choice between alcohol or marijuana, it would be marijuana every time.  Alcohol sucks.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Mendacious Mason = the Lying Liar behind the Bogus A64

Perhaps Kennedy will ask him about the MASSIVE LIE Tvert and Vicente promoted -- falsely claiming that A64 will prevent 10,000+ arrests for marijuana every year in Colorado.

A64 = a fraud and a sham, promoted by Lying Liars, for idiots and fools too stupid to read, much less comprehend what it proposed.

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

This is all about "you caught us off-guard and we'd do anything to put the genie back into the bottle."

You cannot put the genie back into the bottle!

tutonehcc
tutonehcc topcommenter

Amendment 64 is falling off the fiscal cannabis cliff, Mason to the rescue!

michael.roberts
michael.roberts moderator editortopcommenter

@jose257 Thanks for the post, Jose257. We're going to make it an upcoming Comment of the Day. Appreciate you weighing in.

jose257
jose257 topcommenter

@kadargo Soon you will see a reduction in liver transplants when alcohol users switch to marijuana.

michael.roberts
michael.roberts moderator editortopcommenter

@jose257 Thanks for the post, Jose. We're going to make it an upcoming Comment of the Day. Appreciate you weighing in.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@jose257  ... so who's forcing you to drink alcohol, eh stoner?

How would marijuana reduce the CURRENT Kennedy family fortune, eh numbnuts?


jose257
jose257 topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay Kennedys smuggled alcohol during Prohibition.  Alcohol is much worse than pot.  The lying liars calling the kettle black is nothing new.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@tutonehcc  ... Lying Liars summoned to tell more Lies.

Mendacious Mason Tvert = ZERO credibility

jose257
jose257 topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @jose257 Go ahead and sign it then Donkey.  What do you have to lose from people trying to sell marijuana and going bankrupt?

savewillowpark
savewillowpark

@DonkeyHotay Ad Hominem attacks prove your not secure in your opinion...  Why don't we all just agree that marijuana doesn't hurt anyone and adults have voted to use it if they choose to do so?  It makes no sense comparing it to alcohol.  Alcohol is a completely different animal, that is sort of like comparing heroine to cookies.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@jose257 ... the PEOPLE of Colorado via A64 have declared that Marijuana should be Government Regulated LIKE deadly Alcohol ... that Marijuana is so dangerous that NO ONE under 21 years old should be allowed ANY LEGAL ACCESS to it.

That is what YOU voted for, moron.

jose257
jose257 topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @savewillowpark It is not available to me without committing a felony.  That is about as available as the money sitting in a bank that I could take at gun point.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@savewillowpark "Actually there are those who would prefer marijuana to alcohol if given the opportunity."

And where in the U$A is marijuana not available to anyone smarter than a 5th grader who actually wants to obtain it?


savewillowpark
savewillowpark

@DonkeyHotay @jose257 @kadargo Actually there are those who would prefer marijuana to alcohol if given the opportunity. Further, for someone attempting to quit alcohol without medical intervention who suffers from DT's marijuana can be useful when self weaning. As for your other assertion that I should get off my a** and get a bill going because it is so easy...I already have. I personally made hundreds of calls and knocked hundreds of doors to get 64 passed while working for the Obama campaign. You have no idea how many people registered just to vote on that amendment. @DonkeyHotay @jose257 @kadargo

savewillowpark
savewillowpark

@DonkeyHotay @kadargo See, you almost did it, your question would have been good had you not chosen to use the word stupid. To answer the question anyway it is because this is an issue of personal liberties.

savewillowpark
savewillowpark

@DonkeyHotay @Cognitive_Dissident I don't hate facts but I dislike bullies and am weary of more obstructionist bullying tactics-it's all you have. It's time we have reasoned discussions. Civility is a function of good productive communication which is also imperative in problem solving. I think it's time we focus on being a part of the solution.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Gary_Bowlmen ....behold the lame apologetic of a typical slacker-stoner who voted to put that festering turd A64 into the Colorado Constitution, thereby permanently surrendering total control of marijuana to BigGovernment Regulators and BigGovernment Tax Pigs.



Gary_Bowlmen
Gary_Bowlmen

@DonkeyHotay @Gary_Bowlmen 

2014-2016 
Show us how it's done big boy !
Get off your computer and get a bill on the ballot,
get people to fund your bill, and get your bill passed !

Since you know .... Its so easy ! 

Gary_Bowlmen
Gary_Bowlmen

@DonkeyHotay @Cognitive_Dissident 

FACT= Mason Tvert got shit done ! 
FACT=DonkeyHotay talks shit !
FACT=DonkeyHotay is an internet troll !
FACT=DonkeyHotay is a loser who sits on his computer all day and trolls the westword !
FACT=DonkeyHotay is very good at being a troll !
 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident

FACT = Mason Tvert is a self-confessed Alcoholic

FACT = Mason Tvert is a grotesquely obese turd

FACT = Mason Tvert is an unmitigated LIAR regarding A64,

What part don't you comprehend?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@kadargo ... why do stupid stoners always want to change the subject to alcohol when the topic of discussion is MARIJUANA?


Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay To the contrary, my dear troll--YOU use the ad hominem attack to AVOID facts. Those facts, in this case, are that alcohol is truly dangerous, as every lush knows, while cannabis, not so much.

kadargo
kadargo

@Cognitive_Dissident  That's my point exactly!  While alcohol continues to cause far more problems to the user and society as a whole,  It continues to be publicized as the party favor of choice.  Complaints like "more dispensaries than Starbucks" come as a threat to public safety while the good news is that breweries are growing in size to meet the demand and reported by the news media in a positive tone as if that is a good thing. 

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@savewillowpark The comparison against alcohol was Mason Tvert's idea--to point out that alcohol, while legal, is a truly dangerous substance, while cannabis, illegal, is not.

bongsucker
bongsucker

@jose257 @DonkeyHotay

So amendment 64 is a stupid law?

That's what Donkey and others have been saying.

jose257
jose257 topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @jose257 You have to start somewhere Donkey.   Sometimes a stupid law is needed to end a stupider law.

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