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Marijuana: Project SAM, anti-legalization group, launches Colorado chapter, Mason Tvert attacks


"Legalization is not going to help public health," Doyle told us after the lengthy news conference ended. "The first stage is, let's talk about marijuana use.... Legalization is not the right answer."

When we asked if his group would explicitly be opposing legalization that is now law in Colorado or if he and supporters will be pushing for some kind of reversal, he said those questions would be formally addressed when the group has a more official launch in coming weeks.

Smart Colorado would be a partner to Project SAM, he explained.

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Sam Levin
Paula Riggs, Christian Thurstone and Bob Doyle
Reporters during the news conference asked speakers for their take on Colorado, where debates about legalization are essentially over, given that the voters passed the measure.

At one point, Sabet said, "We're not talking about reversing things in Colorado," but noted that it remains to be seen how the federal government will act and if it will enforce the law that maintains pot is illegal.

More importantly, he and others emphasized, they are looking to slow down possible legalization efforts in other states and change the debate to include public health experts; they had two local professionals on hand to discuss the risks legalization poses, especially for youth.

"'Lock them up or let them use...' This is not where we want this debate to devolve to," Kennedy said. "We need a more enlightened, thorough and thoughtful discussion and policy debate."

Christian Thurstone, who is both the addiction expert on the governor's implementation task force effort and also a partner with Project SAM -- a conflict, which Tvert described as "troubling" -- gave a speech about the harms of marijuana for adolescents.

"We see teenagers who are rising sports stars and very bright people who are dropping out of life because they're addicted," he said.

Sabet said that he was concerned with the "300-miles-per-hour freight train to legalization" and that experts need to work to ensure that the marijuana industry doesn't repeat problems the tobacco and alcohol industries created, mainly related to targeting youth usage.

He said the group is also interested in addressing unfair criminalization of marijuana use and the disproportionate impacts that arrests can have on minorities. But legalization, he said, is not the best solution.

Paula Riggs, a professor with the University of Colorado School of Medicine, said that "Legalization further gives the impression of social sanctioning.... Use goes up and the availability to our kids goes up."

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Sam Levin
Patrick Kennedy
Some speakers lamented that the debate in Colorado around A64 did not include science -- and they argued that the media didn't help, either.

Tvert, of course, had a very different take -- arguing the research shows clearly that marijuana is a substantially safer alternative to alcohol. This kind of attack on legalization, he said, only further pushes people to a more harmful substance and demonizes adults who simply prefer pot.

Continue for details from the counter-press conference led by Mason Tvert.

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Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

I'm surprised they haven't suggested lowering the national drinking age as a 'solution' .....

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 *** Newly Formed Pot Clown Circus = Drunken Monkeys Trying to Herd Hyperactive Hyenas ***

More than a dozen leaders from the Western Slope to the Front Range tackled a host of recently surfaced community issues Friday, slowly paving a clearer path for the implementation of Amendment 64 across Colorado.

Although they didn't make any clear decisions, the Local Authority and Control Working Group meeting started to address many questions and concerns that municipalities have about the newly forming marijuana industry. It was the first of several planned gatherings for the group — a subset of the Amendment 64 Implementation Task Force.

The talks hinged on community enforcement, marijuana sales and shop licensing — the most complicated of the topics discussed.

"We just need to treat this as an entrepreneurial business," said Wanda James, a marijuana industry proponent. "If we remove all of the sexiness of marijuana and talk about it just as a regular product — as a regular business — I think it becomes much more simple."

Among the group's questions was the issue of whether there should be unlimited grow licenses or if only the strongest, most established operations should supply smaller pot shops.

James repeatedly said it would be like running a restaurant and purchasing vegetables from one supplier and meat from another, ultimately to sell to a customer base.

That was just one of the proposals, although many on the panel agreed that without a careful approach, having thousands — potentially millions — buying marijuana could run existing retailers' supplies dry.

Although the meeting occasionally strayed, one thing that emerged was an understanding there are no easy answers on a subject spanning from advertising restrictions — which could mirror tobacco or alcohol ads — to taxing systems.

As those discussions continue, so do county decisions to preemptively ban retail pot outlets and leaders desperately seeking direction. Many at the meeting urged caution, saying that until a clearer picture is painted, turning away potential revenue sources was dangerous and unnecessary.

Larimer County Sheriff Justin Smith sees things differently.

"The challenge here is that there's a lot of ambiguity," he said after learning of the panel's discussion. "I think from a practical standpoint, it's easier to set tighter rules and loosen them."

Discussion items will be relayed to the Implementation Task Force, which has its next meeting Jan. 22. The Local work group will meet again Jan. 25 and begin crafting more detailed policy recommendations, which will be included in the final Amendment 64 report.



Read more:Pot sub-panel only scratches surface in first meeting - 

http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_22359162/pot-sub-panel-only-scratches-surface-first-meeting

redmosquito2
redmosquito2

What I find curious is; these clowns aren't advocating forced treatment for the obese;  why not?  Look up the data on the CDC web site and you will see the obesity epidemic is orders of magnitude worse than all other "epidemics" combined, so why not forced rehab?  And what kind of message is sent with a clown, a king, and a ginger slinging poisons to our nation's youth in every city and town across the country?  These clowns at SAM are so far out of touch with reality it may border psychosis........

Matt Leising
Matt Leising

Well it's their lives if they want to waste it come on through lol

kevin_hunt
kevin_hunt

Sabet + Kennedy + Frum +Thurstone = pudsmacking reacharound-fest.

Hit the road, your kind is not welcome in Colorado.  Go preach your 1980's Neocon propaganda in Oklahoma or somewhere else that hates weed. 

CoreyDonahue
CoreyDonahue

¨where it is now legal for adults to possess small amounts of marijuana and smoke it recreationally.¨

Why is SAM her Sam?  They want to find alternatives to legaizing marijuana and A64 only allows what it says in the constitution.

(Eventually, adults will be able to buy pot, too, but not for at least a year -- and the details are being debated by a governor's task force, which will make recommendations to legislators).

Eventually, your editor will be able to moderate a debate but that shit won´t happen any time soon.

More PROPAGANDA, Sam you are shooting for the propaganda stars, good job.  Read the constitution you retard.

jose257
jose257 topcommenter

I just started a petition to allow liquor stores to sell marijuana if they stop selling alcohol.

http://wh.gov/PHy5

Tito A Martinez
Tito A Martinez

I'm planning on moving back there, so ya'll better grab the Torches, and Pitchforks, and chase these guys OUT!!!

Megan Haenny
Megan Haenny

Um...a little late? Did they toke and forget to show up before the election? Anti my butt.

jose257
jose257 topcommenter

Make a deal that any liquor store that is willing to stop selling alcohol can start selling marijuana.  That should make everyone happy except the alcohol pushers and the liver transplant business.


shafferkj
shafferkj

I am absolutely infuriated that Patrick Kennedy (from Rhode Island) and Kevin Sabet (from Florida), want to come into OUR state and influence policy on OUR voter passed amendment. Amendment 64 passed by nearly 10 points, the voters of Colorado have already decided on this issue! Go back to Florida and Rhode Island and worry about your own issues. 

I find it deeply concerning that this group refuses to let the voter's voice be heard, choosing to ignore 55% of Coloradans in the process. Like the Amendment or not, we have democracy on a state level for a reason. Generally, it's so our local voice can be heard, without being overshadowed by the questionable motives and agenda of some national group like SAM.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Mendacious Mason Tvert = ZERO Credibility

 

A64 written and promoted by LYING LIARS for idiots and fools too stupid to read, much less comprehend what it proposed.

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@kevin_hunt

The proponents of A64 hate weed, you stammering douchenozzle ... so much that NO ADULT over 21 years old is allowed to possess more than 1 (one) pathetic ounce, or grow more than 3 (three) flowering plants, or privately sell even a single gram, all under CRIMINAL PENALTY of Law!

The proponents of A64 hate weed so much that NO ONE under 21 years old is allowed ANY LEGAL ACCESS to ANY amount of recreational marijuana -- not a single gram or plant!

A64 written by Prohibitionist, for idiots and fools like you who were too stupid to read, much less comprehend what it proposed.

kevin_hunt
kevin_hunt

@Tito A Martinez I've got a pitchfork to lend to the cause.  I can't wait to see where SAM HQ will be located.  

Know any taggers with talent?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@shafferkj "I am absolutely infuriated that Patrick Kennedy (from Rhode Island) and Kevin Sabet (from Florida), want to come into OUR state and influence policy on OUR voter passed amendment"

ROTFLMAO !!  ... given that the MILLIONS of $$$ to support and promote that Festering Turd that is A64 came from OUT OF STATE meddlers.

You = cluless dipwad

dinges65
dinges65

@DonkeyHotay You belong to history. Just a matter of time and people of you will be laughed at, at best. More likely, all prohibitionists will be despised of destructive and evil policies.

shafferkj
shafferkj

@DonkeyHotay @shafferkj Again, we're talking about an out-of-state group trying to weigh-in on OUR state amendment. We aren't talking about where the campaign dollars came from. You know why? BECAUSE THE ELECTION IS OVER AND THE AMENDMENT PASSED. 


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@dinges65 ... which is why a clueless bong-sucking stoner like you SURRENDERED Total Control of Marijuana over to BigGovernment Prohibitionists via A64, eh moron?


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@kevin_hunt ... that's what your mom says too ... when I'm busy regulating her.

So ... I was fucking your sister, when your mother started screaming bloody murder! ...

... turns out I was kneeling on her hair.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@kevin_hunt ... way to ignore reality for the 10,000th time, you stump-stupid stammering stoner.

Keep suck suck suuuucking on that bong.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@shafferkj = retard who thinks BigGovernment REGULATED "seed to sale" restrictions and control of marijuana ... all for a pathetic ounce ... is a good thing.


shafferkj
shafferkj

@DonkeyHotay @shafferkj Are you high? I'm just asking because Colorado has the model framework for MMJ. Multiple states are looking to implement CO's "seed to sale" and other aspects of our current regulation. 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@shafferkj ... same "regulatory framework" they rammed up your ass via HB1284 and the MMED ...

... how'd that feel?

Now Bück Dich and feel that "framework" all up inside you.

shafferkj
shafferkj

@DonkeyHotay Uhh...you clearly have not read the amendment. Last time I checked, Amendment 64 allows Colorado legislators to craft the regulatory framework. Gov. Hickenlooper has an advisory task force that includes input from both sides. That's your idea of "BigGovernment?" Get ya facts straight brah. 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@shafferkj ... an OUT OF STATE group convinced you stoner morons to surrender total control of marijuana to BigGovernment Regulators -- forever -- and put that festering turd A64 into the State Constitution.

You will RECEIVE the BigGovernemnt REGULATIONS you begged for via A64, sucker. 

ccapra
ccapra

@shafferkj @DonkeyHotay @dinges65 Donkey's a bitter person that can only criticize and offer's zero positive ideas.  In fact, he's never offered any concrete ideas, only insults and the same 5 patterned responses. 

shafferkj
shafferkj

@DonkeyHotay @dinges65 You assume too much. First you assume he's "clueless." Yet you are the one who doesn't understand proper capitalization and punctuation. Then you assume he's a "bong-sucking stoner." Supporting the amendment does not make you a stoner (e.g. Pat Robertson).

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