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Franklin Sain to gun-control backers: "Hopefully somebody Giffords both of your asses"


Another photo of Rhonda Fields.
On February 19, the affidavit continues, law enforcers contacted Sain; the e-mails hadn't featured his name, but they'd been able to trace them to him. He initially waffled and wavered about whether he'd authored the notes, but he did concede that he had called the representative a "cunt" in a phone call to her office, and suggested that he should "call her and apologize."

Later, Sain left the investigator a voicemail message conceding that he'd sent e-mails to Fields's office. He added, "I did not make any threats in my e-mails. I know e-mails are traceable and I wouldn't have done that.... I'm just voicing some frustrations about a topic I consider sacred, especially after wearing a uniform and fighting for this country. When you have media pushing blame on gun owners, that just brings my emotions out."

In another conversation with police, Sain stressed that the language used in the various e-mails was not representative of him or his values. But on February 21, a member of Fields's staff told cops the office had received a note with very similar language. An excerpt:

All Niggers Back to Africa
Fuck You
Fuck Your Laws
I Keep my 30 Round Magazines
There Will Be Blood!
I'm Coming For You, Nigger Bitch.
That was enough for the police, who requested an arrest warrant for Sain on suspicion of harassment and an attempt to influence a public servant. He was arrested on Friday and released on a $30,000 bond. He's next due in court on March 8. If he's formally charged, that's when he'll find out about it.

Will additional counts for threatening Fields's life be added? Don't know yet -- and neither do we have an idea about what will happen with SofTec Solutions' government contracts. But it's worth pointing out that Sain is no longer listed among those on the company's management team.

Here's a larger look at Sain's booking photo, followed by a 9News report and the affidavit.

franklin sain mug shot.jpg
Franklin Sain.

Franklin Sain Arrest Affidavit

More from our Politics archive: "Gun bill to require background checks: 'Enough is enough,' says Rhonda Fields."


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aliceallenmiller
aliceallenmiller

That is absolutely not freedom of speech and anyone who is dumb enough to think it is, needs to take a civics class! It was meant as a way thoughtfully criticize the government without persecution, it does not cover hateful or abusive language. Throw the red neck in jail. 

ObamaNazi
ObamaNazi

Gabrielle Giffords was goofy in the head before she had a hole put in it.

Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

What makes me most upset is the threatening of violence towards women . Put aside and simlify by removing any & all political interests . What we have is a chicken-shit attempt by a man to bully a woman !

If this gets proven, & he gets convicted,  I wonder if there's any possibility of DV enhancements ? He's lucky he's not a 'regular-Joe' or there would be triple the charges ...

Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

Why is the 'N' word & ANY form of it's use,  reserved for African Americans only ???  Any time I'm downtown or on one of the shuttles, every other word out of most young, African American mouths  ( IS ! ) the 'N' word ! While it's use by ANYONE w/ a  white ass,  has the potential to ignite a modern 'armegerddon', L.A., Gangsta' Style !!!!

What's the Caucasian's 'N' word ?

Anyone ???...

peteg1987
peteg1987

When America, ask any American Indian, was invaded (discovered) the Constitution was started where 'only white men' voted in a system they imported to this land. In school I was taught, they wanted to get away from their culture in England. Instead, with educated hindsight, they were setting up the beginning of organized crime to America. The atmosphere for the 2nd Amendment was formed because America was being formed thru greed and fraud--and guns to keep their greed and fraud! Now America is afraid of losing their guns. Wouldn't it be nice for 'the people' of America to send all those guns to England, Egypt, Iraq, Israel, Syria etc. and tell them to just go ahead and kill themselves since history says it is in their nature to do so. To own a gun in America would be dealing with realists 'the people'. Where a death is involved due to a gun, the villian will never be allowed to possess a gun and make restitution to the victims family forever thereafter. Gun manufactures would share that liability, even if they left the country to continue to produce and import or smuggle guns into this country. A law 'by the people', Not To Exclude, cops, prosecutors, judges, politicians, lawyers, bankers, priests, sports figures, etc..I have a website, petition, and a U-Tube video to share entitiled "Help me buy justice." Pass it on.

Monkey
Monkey

Sure, the guy sounds crazy, but so does she. I wonder if she checked the magazines of the armed people protecting her house after the threat. I bet they had magazines over 10 and 15 rounds. She might be a hypocrite, but no one deserves death threats. Unfortunately, banning standard magazines wont stop death threats either.

Schittphaiç Magü
Schittphaiç Magü

Another fine example of a "responsible" gun owner at work. Doin' a "heckuva job" fighting that "gubmint tyranny."

Shannon Fender
Shannon Fender

I know we're supposed to presume someone innocent before they are tried. Having said that, if this man is guilty of sending these messages, I hope he is convicted to the fullest extent of the law which, one of my friend's pointed out, would result in a felony charge and his second amendment rights being taken away.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Typical mentally unhinged gun loon ...


Dev Adams
Dev Adams

Reasonable discourse in America is mostly dead. Too bad that gun owners who can make logical, rational arguments are so often overshadowed by the nutcases.

BackOffImStarving
BackOffImStarving topcommenter

Oops.  Looks like he'll get at least one felony out of this, maybe two.  The gubment gonna take his guns after all.

Smoochie Setzke
Smoochie Setzke

Not only was it threatening, but it was also hate speech. Also, not covered by the 1st Amendment. He was encouraging others to take violent action by others against this African-American woman, and included the race as part of his hatred. It's really sad and indicative of the racism and hatred people still have. Certainly it was spurred by another topic, but you can't deny the bigoted speech included in the rants.

Rich Madison
Rich Madison

Death threats are not covered by the 1A. It is not free speech.

SeeWhatYouDidThere
SeeWhatYouDidThere

Heheh "I will never give those up, and I am far from being some whack job." I am not sure that he knows exactly what that statement means...

Robert Reeves
Robert Reeves

Barry... Huh? Did you read what you posted? Try reading it and see what you think. And Andrew, well said.

Barry Maez
Barry Maez

i disagree with ms,field,s and i made my point clear to her..but like i told her you have your opinion and i have mine.no hard filling.@andrew your right your point get,s lost in the curseing and racial name calling..the thing i noticed was .ms fields is against gun,s.).she sas it gun violence but we know what,s going on.the goverment want,s our gun,s and these little measures are just the beginning..).but she,s has a measure against gun,s yet when she,s treatened whay the 1st thing that happens..she give security by men with gun,s..she,s doesn.t have anything to say about gun,s when it,s to protect her...which is the only thing we want to be able to PROTECT ourselves..

Barry Maez
Barry Maez

that,s what they want..threatening to kill someone is never right but..it,s a slap in the face to all our service members.who.s given there lives for our right to have free speech..after they take our gun,s 2nd amendment right..the next step is the 1st amendment...politicins act like there above everyone and do what ever they want with nobody saying anything..our job as AMERICAN CITIZEN,S...is to guestion goverment...did ms field,s think she was going to sponser a bill concerning gun,s and nobody say anything...

Doug Jones
Doug Jones

Who writes these "questions?" You actually have to ask your readers if these are threats or free speech? What would you call it if someone delivered a letter to your home filled with racial slurs and references to killing you? Please take a moment and think about the impact of what you post here.

Claudia Hibbert
Claudia Hibbert

It's a tough one, sorta like yelling fire in a crowded theater. The man is just an idiot if no one gets hurt. it's quite another thing if someone acts on his words. Where do you draw the line? I say let people like him talk and let others around them condemn them for their idiotic outbursts. I think if the rep wants to make a complaint that she's genuinely frightened and feels unsafe, that is her right. The police should then deal with that issue accordingly.

Andrew Newman
Andrew Newman

So much for civil discourse. If you can't make a point without threats and vulgar language, you don't really have a point to make.

Jeff Williams
Jeff Williams

i was arrested for threats when i ask police to arrest wyoming judge to be arrested when they said no i said i would arrest him that was a threat... the judge is on the bench i havent seen my kids he removed evidence and help cover the false imprisonment drugged and beat my kid yet i dont get to see them so depends on whats said.

Sam DeWitt
Sam DeWitt

It's threatening and free speech. He's free to make that speech, but he's going to have to pay the consequences of having it be threatening speech.

Legen Dairy
Legen Dairy

Those are threats he threatened to kill her and her daughter. And I applied as a network admin for that company glad I didn't accept the position. What a nut job.

Aaron Wells
Aaron Wells

Wow, what a nice man and pro-tip: threatning politicians isn't helping your cause pro or anti-gun.

No Snakes
No Snakes

1) Your vision of Utopia is unrealistic.  It does not exist and it never will.

2) Guns aren't the problem.  If it weren't guns, it would be bows, knives, swords, spears, clubs, etc.  Don't blame the tool, blame the individual who weilds it.

3) White people don't have a monopoly on evil.  It exists in all ethnic groups without exception.

4) Ask an American Indian?  My grandfather was an elder of the Arikara tribe.  The Arikara were slaughtered into near extinction by the invaders that drove them off the land their people had lived on for a countless years.  The land of their fathers was the western Dakota's and the Black Hills.  The invaders were the Lakota nation.  Dances with Wolves?  Please...

There is more than one side to every story.  It is clear that you are an angry person. Lay your anger aside, make choices only for yourself, and don't blame people for the sins of their fathers.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Rich Madison  ... a literal reading of the 2nd Amendment does not include the right to SHOOT arms ... just to keep and bear them.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Aaron Wells ... gun loons often claim their precious pistols are needed to defend against "Government Tyranny" ... yet few if any of these gun coveting cowards have ever fired upon said "government tyrants".

Let's see if this gun nut can walk his talk ... or is nothing but empty-headed hot air like the vast majority of gun lunatics.


No Snakes
No Snakes

I don't agree with Ms. Fields politics, or her position on firearms, but this fool went WAY over the line.  Nut jobs like (in)Sain are rare and appear on BOTH sides of the issue.  Unfortunately, there is no cure for STUPID.

I would encourage both sides of the issue to step back, get a little air, smoke a little bud, and TALK.

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