Marijuana giveaway with pipes purchase illegal, says attorney general, police chief

Quantaray

Medical cannabis and Prop 64 were steps in the right direction for this plant with a thousand uses. Hemp and cannabis flower could be one of the economic engines to pull Colorado and the country out of this recession.

Regulation is necessary, however there will always be the black market. The smart operators in this world will be able to exist under the radar, and forgo the mountains of regulation and red tape as well as the thousands of dollars in state fees.

We are still seeing vestiges of prohibition in CO and other MMJ states in the attitudes of some people who still view marijuana as a dangerous schedule 1 drug, the same as LSD, heroin, and methamphetamine. Ridiculous.

I see the future of cannabis similarly to the wine industry. There will be all levels of production from corporate giants, to local growers, to individuals growing a few plants for their medical needs.

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stuka1 topcommenter

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I am not convinced that the chief of the Denver police (a known prohibitionist as well) is the final arbiter of what is actually legal under the law or not. YES, he might order these folks to be busted, and fuck up their lives and run them through the mill and force the issue into a huge and expensive court battle for everyone -- how fun. But they might just win on their gamble, and show him up in the end. I could ill afford to take such a gamble, just like most everyone else. But then there are folks like Rosa Parks....

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 ... Case Law has long ago settled against the pathetic ruse of offering "free" items as part of a contingent sale of another item or service merely to evade prohibitions/restrictions covering the so called "free" item.

It's been tried and FAILED hundreds of times in history with such other categories as Prostitution, Alcohol, Gambling, etc.

Only a complete legal idiot -- and some of the depraved unethical Marijuana McLawyers -- would have ever thought -- even for a moment -- that these phony schemes would withstand legal challenge.

To take such an extreme risk with CRIMINAL FELONY DRUG charges against oneself or one's legal client is an obscene example of self-destruction and hubris.

stuka1 topcommenter

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@DonkeyHotay @stuka1

You seem to see only black and white. In the end I do not support the "free oz w/ deliverry fee scemes because at this time it gives prohibitionists on the task farce ammunition

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

LOL! ... there's a Display Ad in Westweed's print edition from some clueless clown running an Appliance Repair Service ... offering "free" pot with any service call.

Will Weedword take responsibility when this illegal enterprise gets busted?

khoums

@DonkeyHotay how do you know its not law enforcement?

MontyPython

@DonkeyHotay These people are just trying to bring about the reform voters want. Who cares if they give it to other adults? Definitely gonna be harder for kids to get weed when the drug dealers go broke...

tony514

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aperently the police can't give up on the ever so long cat and mouse chase game.The people who pay taxes that provides police a job have given the police the job to not worry about pot but they seem to be worse at following directions than the people they arrest.i mean realy if the cops cant go around busting pot heads relaxing and enjoying them selfs what will they do spend time looking for violent criminals and trafic tickets..basicaly the police need to lay off about 50% of there task force since weeds legal they have a pointless career,maybe they can go fuck with the crack heads now.

Vasid

@tony514 I find it really weird that at no point have cops told American people how harmless Pot smokers are, and I'm not sure if it's just them being in denial so they don't feel like total pricks for putting standard citizens in jail or if they really do believe that weed is dangerous. I mean we're talking about people who have dealt with people on Crystal-fucking-Meth, butt naked and running at them with super-human strength and above average pain tolerance, tripping so hard they can't tell who's their friend or even what they're doing, and yet the war against drugs has remained over the past decades primarialy about weed.

Why was there never a point where the cops laughed at the politicians and said "You really want us to focus our efforts on laid back stoners?"

khoums

@Vasid its easy money -- and they know damned good and well mj smokers behavior isnt violent or crazy like meth users and alcohol drinkers. They want to keep their cushy jobs going after easy to bust pot smokers . ppl like donkey are pissed they cant continue to sell their crap weed on the black market --donkey will have to get a real job --oh booo hooo ! lmao!

Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

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The real legal question here is "What is remuneration?"

No, I don't intend to be the one to find out. Nevertheless, I wish the best of luck to anyone looking for the line in sand--not to mention his "McLawyer." (Still laughing, DonkeyHotay.)

khoums

@Cognitive_Dissident remuneration means anything that is used as a payment or compensation...be it cash, tshirts , favors etc.

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident ... actually coined by another reader ... Case? iirc.

Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

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That has to be the crappiest graphic in the world. The text is unreadable!

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

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@Cognitive_Dissident ... typical self-made stoner ad graphics. Have you seen the incomprehensible -- "how not to" -- dispensary ads in Westweed print edition?

What can be expected from fucktards who can't even spell YIELD ... after they've been corrected multiple times ?

SSAASSD!

legaleagle

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"the nail that sticks up gets hammered down" = old chinese proverb

stuka1 topcommenter

@legaleagle

As I recall, folks like Rosa Parks are "nails that stick up". Yes, many get hammered down -- Peter Fecther and others come to mind. But in the end, we all danced on that fucking wall before we tore the motherfucker x down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z6dxQVhE8o

{Jesus Jones video -- RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW, celebrating DIE MAUERFALL)

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 @legaleagle

Rosa Parks KNEW she was breaking the law, and was prepared to pay the penalty in order to change the law.

These Stupid Stoners are so pig-ignorant and gullible-- blindly led into harms way by their unethical Marijuana McLawyers and Westweed bloggers -- that they don't realize they are breaking FELONY drug law, and their motives are not to change the law, but merely selfish financial profit.

You = Analogy Fail

khoums

@stuka1 @DonkeyHotay

a point missed by many including law enforcement who are surprised when shot at or having booby traps set to fuck them up.

I guess they though they were all powerful lolol idiots. the pigs deserve whats come to them and a whole lot more.

khoums

@DonkeyHotay @stuka1 @legaleagle

If it werent for people sticking their necks out we wouldnt be where we are now. which is better than life imprisonment for even a joint. and no, they werent simply deciding they would take the penalty Jesus didnt turn himself in, neither did the founding fahers all who stuck their necks out for the sake of freedoms.

donkey =golden penis award winner of the day.

only a pussy like Donkey would find that an an analogy fail. but then being brainless twit has always been his/her specialty.

stuka1 topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @stuka1

Did I say this was without risk? You seem to forget that this is a war.

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

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@stuka1 = reading comprehension FAIL.

"Because of my past record im looking at a plea deal of 10 to 24 years or take it to trial and risk 25 to LIFE bro even though the last charge I had was 8 years ago. ... Life in prison for a marijuana charge. If I ever knew my family was in danger I would never chosen this path. I truly believe I didnt break the law and certainly not anything that could cost me life in prison."

Stay ignorant, it's your best skill.

stuka1 topcommenter

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@DonkeyHotay @stuka1 @legaleagle

And these folks know they are dancing on the edge of the law as well. Rosa Parks also risked being lynched and /or torn limb from limb by a mob of angry honkies. A mite worse than a felony arrest.

You = logical fail.

michael.roberts moderator editortopcommenter

@legaleagle Nice proverbial application, legaleagle. Thanks for posting.

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

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@legaleagle

"Stupid Stoners are as Stupid Stoner do" = modern Donkey proverb

MontyPython

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@DonkeyHotay @legaleagle Also, if stoners are stupid how did Stephen King become such a celebrated author? How did Ted Turner start a multinational news network?

Vasid

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@MontyPython @DonkeyHotay @legaleagle And to further back you up, Monty, that list goes on and on. In fact our current president (and several past presidents) have been smokers.

Weed only makes you temporarily stupid and it's still nothing compared to the stupidity that simply watching tv too often can imbue in a person.

legaleagle

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Colorado police chiefs, attorney generals, and district attorneys are not allowed to interpret Colorado laws, only the state supreme court has that legal right

orson

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Feel free to test out your theory and see how it goes...be persistant about it and I'm sure you will be arrested and prosecuted based on police and prosecutor's "interpretations" of the law. It happens every day.

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

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@legaleagle ... A64 explicitly declares private sales to remain ILLEGAL -- a Felony.

No "interpretation" needed.

The Courts have long ago ruled on the fraud of "free" contingent sales scams as being nothing more than a pathetic ruse. They've been tried -- and failed -- many times over the years with Alcohol, Prostitution, Guns, Tobacco, etc.

Feel free to sacrifice YOURSELF upon the Legal Altar if you think you have some new and not-so-clever scheme that will overturn long established law.

stuka1 topcommenter

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@DonkeyHotay

And you are quite right to point that out. And to point out that this is a huge flaw in A64. Ultimately it will take a repeal/replace or an all out repeal, if/when regular law catches up. It would appear that, no matter the many flaws exist you rightly point out, at this point the ball seems to be rolling with momentum in the favor of regaining some measure of collective sanity re: cannabis. There seem to be huge cracks in Die Mauer, and some of our people are trying our luck at dancing on it. Yeah, they might get shot. Or they might just be the first ones through the Brandenburger Tor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUuWjfnWeZw

ICH BIN BERLINER! DIE MAUER IST WEG!

khoums

@DonkeyHotay @stuka1

kinda like your advocation of legalizing pot like tomatoes --let us know what decade you predict that will happen lmao! your such a tool.

stuka1 topcommenter

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@DonkeyHotay @stuka1 Keep us posted on your legislative efforts as well

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 "Stranger things have happened ..."

Keep us posted on your "repeal/replace" initiative.

LOL!

stuka1 topcommenter

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@DonkeyHotay @stuka1 Stranger things have happened. I never expected it would get enen this far.

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 "Ultimately it will take a repeal/replace or an all out repeal"

Let us know how that goes ... and what decade you predict it will happen.

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

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What incompetent unethical lawyer advised this idiot that it was wise to engage in a Continuing Criminal Enterprise given his prior and current legal situation?

Another graduate of the Bartkowicz - Carpio - Westword - Corry - Vicente - Tutone school of McLaw?

"I truly believe I didnt break the law and certainly not anything that could cost me life in prison."

The same pathetic "I'm an ignorant retard" defense that these fools tried --

http://www.canorml.org/costs/federal_medical_marijuana_prisoners_and_cases

Don't worry Stupid Stoners ... bad things only happen to other people ... trust your idiot Marijuana McLawyer's depraved advice ... since they will no doubt volunteer to serve your prison time when you get convicted for following their unethical, immoral criminal countenance.

Monkey

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It's not like the police are looking for this type of thing, but when you advertise and call attention to yourself.....Surprise, the police are more than willing to arrest you. Normal people who use the law to their advantage keep quiet, and word of mouth spreads quickly if you have something worth buying. The only ones advertising are the ones who can't sell their shitty weed other ways. Maybe that should be a clue? If no one wants your weed, posting on craigslist wont get you more customers, it will just get you more police and criminals calling you. Spend the time growing good buds, and you wont need to advertise, you'll be out of weed as soon as you harvest, and the police and criminals can call someone else.

michael.roberts moderator editortopcommenter

@Monkey Interesting, Monkey. Thanks.

DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@michael.roberts {{{ fluff }}}

tutonehcc

@Monkey A business without advertising? Maybe Monkey business...

There are leaders and there are losers in the business world Monkey. Have fun being a hippie while the rest of us get rich!

Monkey

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@tutonehcc If the leaders are like you, high country, the only ones following will be the police. While the rest of you try to get rich through advertising, the hippies that grow good buds are rich.

jkville

sounds like what coloradans got when they 'bought' amendment 64 was a pig in a poke, it's the cost of tuition for higher education and something the intelligent may learn from