A64 task force recommends 15-25 percent pot taxes, Hick warns of homeless youth increase

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The final meeting of the Amendment 64 Task Force began with a warning from co-chair Jack Finlaw: "I'll be happy to be out of here by six." And as the hours dragged on, it appeared he would get his wish -- right down to the minute.

The task force used all of its allotted four hours plus one in a meeting that ran the gamut from complicated, contentious tax code recommendations to the relatively straightforward recommendation to add marijuana smoke to the Colorado Clean Indoor Air Act.

The afternoon contained few surprises, as nearly every recommendation proposed by the various working groups passed either unanimously or with an easy majority. Only two recommendations failed to pass. The possession recommendation from the criminal law-law enforcement working group, which would have limited personal-use marijuana to "sixteen ounces of a usable form of dried, cured marijuana," failed to garner a majority vote for passage to the General Assembly, eliciting sounds of relief from the forty-odd audience members. Christian Sederberg, the representative from the Amendment 64 campaign, was particularly vociferous in arguing against a recommendation, saying the state would be "asking" for a lawsuit.

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Christian Sederberg (second from right) and Dr. Chris Urbina (right) co-chaired the consumer safety/social issues working group.
Early in the meeting, Governor John Hickenlooper addressed the task force. He thanked the group for its work but he cautioned that the social implications of Amendment 64 could lead to an increase in homeless youth. "I'm not saying the sky is falling and we're going to have thousands of homeless teenagers we didn't have before, but we will have more," he said.

Audience member Chris May, of Denver, refuted that statement. "I'd say that, in reality, this has got the potential to decrease the broken homes due to a decrease in the number or parents being incarcerated for nonviolent marijuana offenses in particular," he said.

The task force spent the majority of the session engaged in robust debate over taxing recommendations. David Blake, the deputy attorney general and co-chair of the tax/funding and civil law working group, ran through a number of different tax structure proposals, imploring the task force to give them the appropriate attention.

"We're starting an industry that's never been done before," he said. "The tax is darn near the top priority."

Continue for more about the Amendment 64 task force's final recommendations.


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stuka1
stuka1

@Hickenlooper: "I'm not saying the sky is falling and we're going to have thousands of homeless teenagers we didn't have before, but we will have more," he said.


Audience member Chris May, of Denver, refuted that statement.

May would have done better to call Hick on his Big Fat Lie: You don't KNOW that", or "Please cite your source and data for this bald-faced lie", or "You are pulling that bullshit right out of your ass."

stuka1
stuka1

From DP: "The task force recommended that Colorado lawmakers refer to voters two ballot measures on marijuana taxes".

..and said voters will tell said lawmakers just where they can stuff said taxes.

Trent Long
Trent Long

Friggin morons. Everywhere. Tax the potheads, and they'll just keep buying their pot from the local dealer, just like mom and dad used to do.

stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay The headline should read: "Hysterical basement dwelling prohibitionist twat trolls blog".

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 ... you mean the SAME voters who SUPPORTED the $40 million Tax for Schools promise promoted by A64?

HipTip -- a large segment of the 45% who voted AGAINST A64 will vote FOR massive taxes on your precious pot -- out of spite.

You = Lose Again, chump.

Tax the Fuck out of it!! -- do it for The Children, they need more schools !!!



DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Trent Long ... so you admit that potheads ARE criminals ... even when their pot is legalized, they'd SELFISHLY choose to commit crimes for their own advantage?

Who knew?


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 ... yet here you are, reading each and every one of my posts.

How pathetic is that?


stuka1
stuka1

There is no mandate in A64 to raise any specific amount. There is some wishful thinking about an arbitrary amount that may or may not be raised. Your lack of reading comprehension is biting you in the ass again.

stuka1
stuka1


@DonkeyHotay YOU. Go back to your mommy's basement. The adults are talking.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 " flowering  4 plants would violate the law."

@stuka1 "3flowering plants is plenty"

@stuka1 "Under 21?   So what, cry me a river and wait til you grow up"

@stuka1 "...stupid ass adolescents can't grow. Tough shit."


stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay  Hilarious coming from the idiot who continues to bleat his lie that A64 prevents no arrests.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1

" ... requiring the general assembly to enact an excise tax to be levied upon wholesale sales of marijuana; 


stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay = Meaning = ignorant asswipe Donkey assface has no rebuttal

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 "Nothing in that regulation hurts me "

@stuka1 = used to ramming fists up his own ass.

stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay @stuka1 Nothing in that regulation hurts me, sorry you havent reached puberty and have to sit and watch the adults have all the fun!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 ... if you used more liberal amounts of lubrication, it wouldn't hurt so much when you repeatedly ram that FIST of REGULATION up your own ass.


hth.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 ... there is no rebuttal to your pathetic failures. They exist, ipso facto.

stuka1
stuka1


@DonkeyHotayPWNING idiotic trolls like you is great fun.Now run along to your mama.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 ... keep sucking on that festering turd that is A64.

stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay

All you are doing by repeating that over and over is showing your abject ignorance. good job.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1

A64 is your turd, you swallow it! 

" ... requiring the general assembly to enact an excise tax to be levied upon wholesale sales of marijuana; 

requiring that the first $40 million in revenue raised annually by such tax be credited to the public school capital construction assistance fund..."

stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay @stuka1 there is penty mythical about your LIE claiming the voters mandated the arbitrary 40 mil figure. Your sad attempts at dodging don't work. You got caught with yet another big fat LIE hanging out of your mouth.

YOU = ZERO credibility, BIG FAT LIAR.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1... nothing mythical about the VOTER MANDATED EXCISE TAX on marijuana.

The PEOPLE have SPOKEN! ... TAX that SHIT!


stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay @stuka1 That point is not in dispute. You are bleating about a mythical $40 million mandate that isnt there. 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 = brain-dead butt-fucked bong-sucker

... REQUIRING the general assembly TO ENACT an excise tax to be levied upon wholesale sales of marijuana; 

stuka1
stuka1


@DonkeyHotayA tax was provided for, yes. No amount to be raised was mandated. You = ignorant legal chimp

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 ... The VOTERS already APPROVED and MANDATED a NEW EXCISE Tax on Marijuana in A64, you stump-stupid stammering bong-sucking stoner.

Feel that FIST of REGULATION all up inside you, chump, you voted for it!


stuka1
stuka1


@DonkeyHotay @stuka1 The legislature can put whatever they like to the voters. Doesnt mean the voters will approve it, dumbass.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 ... since A64 set NO LIMIT on the New Excise Tax that it REQUIRES the legislature to enact upon Marijuana, they can set it sufficiently HIGH enough to attain that $40 million target.

Tax the FUCK out of Marijuana! -- the Voters have Spoken!

*** Regulation Works! ***

Now Bück Dich, bitch!


stuka1
stuka1


@DonkeyHotay @stuka1 No guarantee or mandate at all in there that 40 million actually be raised. Derp.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1

" ... requiring the general assembly to enact an excise tax to be levied upon wholesale sales of marijuana; 

requiring that the first $40 million in revenue raised annually by such tax be credited to the public school capital construction assistance fund..."

The VOTERS have SPOKEN! 

stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay Idiot. A64 doesn't say "no outrside growing" AT ALL. The task farce discussed some ideas of what an "enclosed, locked space" (the actual language of A64" might mean to them, but again, as we have already seen to your great embarrassment, the task farce's recommendations are subject to change and shitcanning and are not binding.

It may come to pass that growing is limited to greenhouses and similar enclosures outside. Your silly asertion assumes that 3/6 plants will not yield much at all. Clearly this is false, either indoor or outdoor. 

3 plants at a time can be flowering, that is true. That just means you have to plan your grow, which you were going to have to do anyway.  "You" meaning NOT YOU, though, since you are still a punk ass in diapers and have to wait until you grow up.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 

A64 = NO OUTSIDE GROWING

Your photo would be a CRIMINAL VIOLATION under A64.

You = Fail Again, chump!

ps: you're only allowed 3 (three) plants that are flowering, so you fail again and again and again.

stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay"pathetic 3 plant farm": 

Yeah. Actually it's six. And here's just four:

http://cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/tim-blake.jpg

@DonkeyHotay"@stuka1 "Under 21? So what, cry me a river and wait til you grow up"

I love the apoplectic little baby-dance you do, throwing yourself on the floor, pounding your fists and squealing in rage like a two-year-old, whenever I remind you that you are still a punk ass and have to sit out and watch the adults have the fun.

It makes me smile.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 "Grow tax free!"

Good luck with your pathetic 3-plant farm.

@stuka1 "Under 21? So what, cry me a river and wait til you grow up"

stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay: "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!"

Go back to your mommy. The adults are talking now.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 "3flowering plants is plenty"

@stuka1 "Under 21? So what, cry me a river and wait til you grow up"


stuka1
stuka1


@DonkeyHotay = lowlife shit sucking narco prohibitionist who voted to KEEP PROHIBITION

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 "3flowering plants is plenty"

@stuka1 "Under 21? So what, cry me a river and wait til you grow up"

@stuka1 = lowlife shit-sucking prohibitionist scumbag.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 "3flowering plants is plenty"

Says the lowlife shit-sucking prohibitionist scumbag.

stuka1
stuka1


@DonkeyHotay  3flowering plants is plenty. Doesnt matter for you anyway, since you have yet to reach puberty. Too bad, cry me a river.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 " flowering  4 plants would violate the law."

A64 = a CONTINUATION of CRIMINAL prohibition against even the most TRIVIAL uses of marijuana in Colorado.

You = keep sucking shit.

stuka1
stuka1


@DonkeyHotay   flowering  4 plants would violate the law. Strawman much?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 ... good luck with your pathetic 3-plant farm!

LOL!

ps: grow 4 (four) flowering plants, go to JAIL under A64!


stuka1
stuka1


@DonkeyHotay @stuka1 We didn't say tax the fuck out of it. TABOR, prohibitionist suckers!


Can,t tax what we grow anyway. Fuck taxes.

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