James Holmes's court filing about guilty-plea offer a publicity ploy, prosecution says


Defense's Notice in Response to This Court's Scheduling Order

Prosecutors' Response to Defense's Notice

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DonkeyHotay
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 *** Arizona Man, Gets Probation In Mercy Killing ***

PHOENIX -- There was no doubt 86-year-old George Sanders killed his ailing wife. Yet everyone in the small Arizona courtroom – the prosecutor, the judge and even the couple's family members – agreed it was a time for compassion, not punishment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/30/george-sanders-probation_n_2983996.html


If killing is MERCY -- because it ends suffering -- then how can Death be a "penalty" ?

Stupid Death "Penalty" proponents are as Stupid Death "Penalty" proponents do !!


JokeStir
JokeStir

Thanks for fighting for my right to live.  I dont want to die.  DonkeyHotay is one of my biggest fans. Thanks for your continued support and for pointing out that my psychiatrist is responsible for my inability to maintain sanity.  I am a victim here.  Never forget that.  Keep up the good work donkeyhotay.  See u soon comrade.

tony514
tony514

I say don't feed a troll...let god decide I wouldn't kill a room full of people and I wouldn't kill this guy either im not a killer.

CuriousJorge
CuriousJorge

When a dog or wild animal kills a person it is put down.  The same should happen when a person kills another out of malice.  Vets are pros at lethal injection and I think we could use a few of them at the DOC.  Execute James Dipshit Holmes.

Tracy Daigle Tabone
Tracy Daigle Tabone

I'm sorry, but compassion for whom? The murderer? I say give him life in prison. Death would be too quick of a punishment for him.

Cindy Hill
Cindy Hill

Thank you. So few rational comments, so much blustering.

Pat Angello
Pat Angello

I believe his publicity stunt occurred on July 20, 2012!

Latifah Abdul'laah
Latifah Abdul'laah

Even if he got the death penalty, he'd live for years before his appeals ran out and he was actually assigned an excution date. I figure he's been sitting there long enough for the crazy to wear off, and to realize the gravity of what he's done. Either way, he was still going to have a lot of years left to ride out taxpayer dollars.

Kasey Evelyn Magic-Glitterpop
Kasey Evelyn Magic-Glitterpop

I think the defense attorneys are more concerned with representing their client's best interests and ensuring due process than with "publicity."

Jimmy Jonas
Jimmy Jonas

Sell Tickets for An Aquarium Execution. Rub Chum on him and push him in the shark tank.

Matt Thyer
Matt Thyer

Does it matter? The defense has secured a guilty plea which has been offered up to the public. Either the prosecution is grandstanding on the idea that the public will value a death sentence more than a short trial, or they're they ones hoping for more press. Given the debate in the state over the death penalty going on right now, is it possibly the latter?

davebarnes
davebarnes topcommenter

The deal would save the taxpayers about $2M USD.

I am in favor.

dcCU
dcCU

As noted by several sources Karen Steinhausen, a former prosecutor and current law professor, states the Defense's move is not unusual.  Furthermore, it is the Defense's job to do all they can to save clients life.




DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Death is NOT a Penalty.

Think about it.


scrumdiddlyicious
scrumdiddlyicious

it would be a bright idea all around if the prosecution took the plea. whether one likes it or not--i'm not passing judgment here--w/ the country becoming more & more liberal, say, at least in certain ways, there's a good possibility the death penalty will be abolished while he is still incarcerated, whether he is on death row or not on death row. as per: if he doesnt plead out the whole thing may just turn out to be a pointless but very mediagenic waste of money.

& theres another factor w/ this guy. if we wanna stop these from occurring we need to understand why they happen. to do that, we need to talk to the people who do them. we havent had much chance. the great majority either die on site or are neither intelligent nor insightful nor, of all things, concerned enough w/ anything other than their own welfare to tell us much.

i know it doesnt seem that way now but this one isnt like that. he may have been during the build up to & the execution of his mad & vicious madness. but, before that, he just had not consistently been the person w/ a boobytrapped apartment. he was also the person who wrote his university application essays. there was some real compassion &, of all things, real empathy in there. if we find a way to somehow force him back to being the guy who wrote the essays, to being who he was before he became what he, sadly, became--he could tell us a lot. it's not enough, nothing would be--but it is a whole lot more than we'd get by executing him.

not to mention that he might even save the state more money by committing suicide when he finally & fully understands & accepts responsibility for the horror he caused. i'm saying this in the manner of the sorrowful sardonic, but that doesnt make it any less true.

11er
11er

There are many conspiracy theories floating around about mind-control, the movie itself, witnesses not interviewed, and many more...But bottomline the hell with all that if a M.F. murders in COLD blood they deserve to die. He can plead however he wants but the BITCH needs to feel about 20,000 amps in his brain 1 amp at a time.

christopher168
christopher168

Ultimately in the end one has to wonder if this is the ending that James Holmes envisioned for himself when he went about his carefully conceived plan? Did he seek to be some kind of hero, anti hero, show the world the error of its ways or simply act out that part of himself that he could no longer tolerate and refrain from as he sought the guise of an alter hero. But even an alter hero would choose death would they not by definition….so much carnage and in the end James Holmes still resists being the idea that he forced so many others to lose their lives for.

http://scallywagandvagabond.com/2013/03/james-holmes-to-plead-guilty-so-he-can-avoid-the-death-penalty/

Jason Flaugher
Jason Flaugher

Seriously fry this mother f--ker. He deserves what he gave all those innocent people.

Divad Mcpot
Divad Mcpot

This can happen to anyone he did not receive the help he needed he try it to seek help and this lousy docs. Don’t work they are just interested on their pocket fuck the patient….. Blame the doctor she shut be charge as well for negligent ……….

Jay Jurgens
Jay Jurgens

Are they serious?he will plea guilty to avoid the death penalty. HE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY RIGHTS. I got in some trouble 20 years ago and with nothing but a speed ticket in all that time I still have no rights. who the fuck is he. Ill tell you he is a murderer. All I did was sell done weed

mr.me
mr.me

you holmes supporters make me sick.  go fuck yourself.  the world will be a better place once he is terminated.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Gustavo 

His victims are DEAD, their suffering is over! ... and the suffering of Holmes will be if you execute him.

Is that your intent, to END the suffering and pain of Holmes, and send him to your mythical Kingdom of Heaven?


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@tony514 ... the same "god" that decided to put Holmes on this earth, put firearms into his hands, and allow him to SLAUGHTER innocent people?


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@CuriousJorge "The same should happen when a person kills another out of malice"

So every U$ Soldier that killed an Iraqi or Afghan should be PUT DOWN for their homicidal actions, eh?

You ain't the smartest chimp in the jungle, are you boy?

eric
eric

james holmes the mass murderer is afraid to die and is afraid of the death penalty.  life in prison is what he wants and planned for.  people like you are helping holmes get what he wants.

BackOffImStarving
BackOffImStarving topcommenter

@davebarnes Only theoretically.  Nathan Dunlap?  1993 Chuck E. Cheese killer?  Sentenced to death?  He's still alive and the state is still spending money on room & board.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@davebarnes ... and it would cause more pain and suffering to Holmes, as he spends every second of every minute of every hour of every day of every week of every month of every year of every decade of the rest of his life locked in a cage like an animal.


BackOffImStarving
BackOffImStarving topcommenter

@dcCU Exactly.  It's their job, whether they think their clients are innocent or cold-blooded monsters.

stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay Death IS a penalty,  idiot.

PENALTY: the suffering in person, rights, or property that is annexed by law or judicial decision to the commission of a crime or public offense. 

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/penalty

hth you sniveling idiot


michael.roberts
michael.roberts moderator editortopcommenter

@scrumdiddlyicious Very interesting post, scrumdiddlyicious. We're going to make it an upcoming Comment of the Day. Thanks.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@2006KLID "if a M.F. murders in COLD blood they deserve to die"

Jesus would be proud of your blood lust ...

BackOffImStarving
BackOffImStarving topcommenter

@Jason Flaugher You're conveniently forgetting about the time it will take to go to trial, the money that will be spent by the state, and the endless appeals for a death sentence which might take another decade or two.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Jay Jurgens "HE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY RIGHTS."

Spoken like a true Fascist.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@eric ... Death isn't a Penalty ... his "fear" of it will end -- along with any pain and suffering -- the moment you execute him.

Is that your intent, to END his pain and suffering?


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@BackOffImStarving ... if it's about the $$$, then why not execute all criminals, eh Torquemada?

davebarnes
davebarnes topcommenter

@BackOffImStarvingNo. Real. $1M for the trial and $1M for all the death penalty appeals.

You make my point by mentioning Nathan Dunlap. I think he is a scumball who deserves to die. But, he will never be executed by the State of Colorado.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 ... Death ENDS Suffering, you stump-stupid stammering stoner.


scrumdiddlyicious
scrumdiddlyicious

@michael.roberts @scrumdiddlyicious 

thank you. i surely wish more people thought this stuff.

11er
11er

@DonkeyHotay @2006KLID Actually i am a very, very peaceful guy. But living in CHICAGO and looking at all of the children murdered, kind of put me on a ZERO tolerance for this type of shit. i was thinking that maybe JESUS would want to talk to him A.S.A.P.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@CuriousJorge ... so you acknowledge that death is not a penalty, since it ENDS suffering.

CuriousJorge
CuriousJorge

why do you want people to suffer?  do you support torture too?  against suicide?  forcing someone to suffer is cruel. 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@2006KLIDstupidstoner"murders in COLD blood they deserve to die. He can plead however he wants but the BITCH needs to feel about 20,000 amps in his brain 1 amp at a time."

@2006KLIDstupidstoner"Actually i am a very, very peaceful guy"

Noted.


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