Marijuana profiling: Coloradans should ditch weed before state line, says Kansas attorney

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In our continued coverage of alleged profiling of cars with Colorado license plates in other states due to our marijuana laws, we shared the experiences of Westword writer Britt Chester, who was pulled over not once, but twice last week during a cross-country trip.

One of the places he was rousted was Kansas, and an attorney there says such profiling appears to be happening routinely -- so much so that he's considered buying a billboard at the state line warning people coming from Colorado to dump their pot.

According to Cal Williams, an attorney based in Colby, Kansas, the billboard would say, "'Stop and get rid of this. Don't come into Kansas with it. You can go to prison on less than an ounce.'"

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Leonard Frieling.
Another variation on this theme is mentioned by Leonard Frieling, a Denver-based lawyer with whom Williams has brainstormed on the idea. "I imagine an electronic billboard like those speedometer signs that tell you how fast you're going -- 36 miles per hour, or whatever," he notes. "But this one would say, 'You are crossing the state line in eight minutes. Would you like to stay with us for the next five years?'"

This isn't much of an exaggeration. "As little as 25 grams can be a felony in Kansas," Williams points out. "There's a range from 25 grams to 450 grams, and even for someone with no record, a conviction could carry 46 to 51 months in a penitentiary."

Moreover, wrist slaps aren't common in these cases, whether an individual had previously steered clear of wrongdoing. "It is presumptive prison," Williams says, "with 49 months being the middle range; that's likely what it would be. And based on the fact that an ounce is 28.35 grams, less than an ounce is enough to send you to prison."

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Britt Chester.
As for whether profiling is taking place in Kansas, Chester's tale suggests that it is. He told us that he and a friend were halfway through Kansas in a truck with Colorado plates when they were pulled over by a state trooper for the high crime of driving in the left lane; a law there says cars should use that lane only when passing and then return to the right. But the trooper made it clear he had other possible crimes on his mind.

"He said, 'Hey, listen, a lot of people are trafficking marijuana out of Colorado. Some of it's for medical purposes, some of it's for profit. Do you mind if I look in your truck?'" Chester revealed.

The trooper's search turned up nothing more suspicious than rolling papers, so he eventually sent Chester and pal on their way without a citation. But that didn't mean he'd given up on his tactic. "He said they were keeping their eye out for Colorado plates," Chester recalled.

How often does this kind of thing happen? And how frequently does it result in troopers finding marijuana?

Continue for more about marijuana profiling in Kansas.



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luckyacu1
luckyacu1

Um note to everyone...they can't search your car without your permission !

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 *** 50 pounds of pot sniffed out during traffic stop ***

A canine helped the Douglas County Sheriff's Office sniff out 50 pounds of high-quality marijuana during a traffic stop on Interstate 80.

Chief Deputy Marty Bilek said a deputy stopped a Ford pickup truck near Q Street about 1:30 p.m. Wednesday for following too closely.

The K-9 service dog, named Voss, was deployed and indicated that drugs could be found in the utility box on the truck bed.

A search of the truck produced 50 pounds of “high quality marijuana from British Columbia,” Bilek said. He estimated the street value of the pot at $250,000.

The driver, a resident of North Bend, Ore., was arrested on suspicion of possession of marijuana with intent to deliver.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 *** Nebraska patrol finds 24 pounds of marijuana in SUV ***

SEWARD, Neb.  — Two people in eastern Nebraska face drug charges after authorities seized more than 24 pounds of marijuana during a weekend traffic stop.

The Nebraska State Patrol says a trooper stopped a sport utility vehicle Sunday afternoon on Interstate 80 near the Seward-Lancaster County line, west of Lincoln. The trooper detected the smell of marijuana and found the drug in two plastic buckets inside the vehicle.

Sadedra Williams, of North Las Vegas, Nev., and Marcus Smith, of Lynwood, Ill., each face a felony count of possession with intent to distribute marijuana. They remain at the Seward County Jail.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 *** Wyoming man caught hauling drugs in Nebraska ***

20-year-old Andrew Zachary White faces three FELONY charges after getting pulled over on I-76 near the I-80 intersection.

On Thursday night, trooper Ron Kissler with the Nebraska State Patrol pulled White over for speeding. Trooper Kissler detected the odor of marijuana coming from inside the vehicle.

A search of the vehicle revealed marijuana in a false shaving cream can, marijuana paraphernalia concealed in a false gum container, 2.5 ounces of hashish infused edibles, 3.5 ounces of marijuana brownies, 12 ounces of marijuana liquid, digit scale, packaging, 3 1/8 bags of marijuana, and two hydrocodone pills.

White was placed under arrest for possession of marijuana, no drug tax stamps, possession of a controlled substance, possession of hashish, and possession of drug paraphernalia.

Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

My buddy's 75 yr old grandfather was pulled over this morning, 8 miles into Kansas . The patrolman was 'kind' & let him off w/o running him, and w/ just a warning to 'slow down' . I understand the old timer is in possession of a 'heavy' foot .

YourNeighborCarl
YourNeighborCarl

Kansas is going to look stupid when they legalize weed in 2113.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Kansas ... where schools teach children The Bible in place of Evolution.

LOL!

Stupid Superstitious Imbeciles are as Stupid Superstitious Imbeciles do!

SSIAASSID!


Matt Stineman
Matt Stineman

It's called the gauntlet and folks have been moving product through it for decades. Be smart people.

Ben Deco
Ben Deco

@Rich, why would anyone go east of Colorado? Is there even anything that way?

Monkey
Monkey

Come on trust fund kids, lets see a documentary. Drive around the country with two cars, one with Colorado plates,. another with Kansas plates. Follow each other about a mile apart, changing leaders periodically, and video the results. Both cars that look similar, with similar looking drivers that drive within the laws should be a good example of what police are really doing. The results could be interesting, how many Kansas plates were pulled over, asked about marijuana, searched etc., as opposed to the Colorado plate. I'd pay a dollar to see that.

mosborne3
mosborne3

So be sure not to drive into KS with your Subie and Jam band bumper stickers. I am a Kansan and yes I love CO, but it is too damn crowded along the front range. half the Left coast decided to move in and develop endless subdivisions and create horrible traffic and air quality. Plus your mtns are turning brown with the pine beetle. Most of you Coloradans are transplants anyways.

denverandy
denverandy

Driving from CO to MI (both MMJ states) I saw the classic "Drug Checkpoint Ahead on I-80 in Nebraska".  The ruse here is they look for people who pull over at the next exit; they can't actually have a checkpoint on the interstate.  Given the potency of today's CO MMJ anyone with half a brain should be able to hide a few grams on their person - which, as you know, can't be searched unless you are arrested.  Otherwise, fly fly fly nonstop to your destination. 

1man1jar.com
1man1jar.com

I know about 20 people who make drives to and from colorado for a living. Beats the hell out of paying taxes and working. thats for sure

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

"Because what's perfectly legal in Colorado is a felony in Kansas."

You should change that, instead of profiting from it. Or, maybe we could make it legal to hold up every Kansas car you see for protection money.

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

They charge us extra to drive on the interstate we already paid for to get through their empty state, too. We should stop all Kansas cars and hold them for ransom.

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

It might be time to sue states in federal court for an official policy of harassing Colorado drivers.

Wendy Dennie
Wendy Dennie

No, rent a car with tags from another state and the cops won't profile you.

Ed Haas
Ed Haas

This just goes to show you the wide gap between ignorance (Kansas) and common sense (Colorado).

macknz99
macknz99

@DonkeyHotay  come on... Kansas used to be a lot more like colorado - more independent Bob Dole Republicans... its a very nice state..  and they probably will legalize - they are more about freedom than you think...  just a few right wingers that get all the media attention.

kevin_hunt
kevin_hunt

@DonkeyHotay Cmon...everyone knows that the world is only 6,000 years old.  Evolution = lies from the pit of hell.  Jesus rode dinosaurs.

RevRayGreen
RevRayGreen

@Matt Stineman yes, it was no cakewalk even back in the late 1980's/early 1990's I-80 when I rode it many times.....then they ramp'd a designated 'corridor' btw Omaha and DSM late 1990's, stepping up the profiling....

lloydc321
lloydc321

You betcha.  You should get out more.

weldcountysucks
weldcountysucks

@Ben Deco just assholes and a lot of Zero-tolerance states..

kevin_hunt
kevin_hunt

@Monkey I was thinking the same thing last week. The only thing missing from your scenario is a minivan full of defense attorneys to crowd around the cop and start asking questions.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Monkey ... perhaps the shysters from the A64 scampaign have some of the $3 MILLION in out-of-state propaganda $$$$ left over for such an exposé  ?

michael.roberts
michael.roberts moderator editortopcommenter

@mosborne3 Thanks for sharing your thoughts, mosborne3. We're going to make your post an upcoming Comment of the Day. Much appreciated.

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@denverandy They can give you a "Terry pat," as part of requiring you to step out of the car for questioning. It's meant to find any weapons that might endanger them in their "investigation," but if they find something they claim seems like a weapon and it's, say, a pipe with resin residue, they've got you.

It's good that people know about those bogus "checkpoints," though.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@1man1jar.com  ... it's all fun and games ... until they get caught in one of those Draconian states.

Working and paying taxes sure beat the hell out of spending years/decades in a prison cell.


JimTom
JimTom

You are more than welcome to be the one to get busted and push it to the supreme court.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Wendy Dennie ... Smuggler FAIL!

Rental Cars -- regardless of state tags -- are obvious to Narco Cops working the highways. 

A rental car is but another indicator that cops use to establish "reasonable suspicion".


JimTom
JimTom

Yeah great idea drive to Wyoming and rent a car just to leave the state.

MandyMountain
MandyMountain

@Justin Oliver Kansas: now competing with Alabama for the title of most mentally challenged state.

denverandy
denverandy

@Cognitive_Dissident I just always think of the poor stoned college kid who in their anxiety pull over and get caught.  The actual traffic-ers are way too smart.  Yet again why these laws are simply fuel for the law enforcement / judicial "industry".

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@JimTom You don't have to get "busted" for anything to sue for being harassed because you have Colorado plates.

tutonehcc
tutonehcc

@JimTom You can get a rental car with plates from any state you want from any big national rental company dumb ass.  People drop them off from other states in Denver all day long.  How do you think the cash gets back here?  In cars from other states with other plates.  Just request whatever plates you want at Hertz downtown, take it from an old school smuggler.

JimTom
JimTom

So the A64 voters have put it on someone who never asked to be the person but now has to fight this harrassment that wouldn't be occuring with out A64. Sounds to me the problem is A64, without it there would be no harrasment.

JimTom
JimTom

Sorry, you go ahead and be the one harrassed then. If it wasn't for A64 this wouldn't even be an issue. I have driven over 500,000 miles in my life for work and pleasure. Pretty much always carrying my personal stash. Never had a problem, never question, never searched, no tickets and only warned twice. Now I have to sweat it and watch my back every trip. Thanks again A64 voters. Hell you can't even buy it yet and they have already started all the profiling bullshit!!!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@tutonehcc @JimTom "How do you think the cash gets back here?"

Which is why, if the cops were smart, they'd be stopping and searching WESTBOUND vehicles ...


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