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Marijuana clubs: Mayor's call for a ban blatantly unconstitutional, advocate says

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Photos, video below.
This week, Mayor Michael Hancock appeared before a Denver City Council subcommittee to talk marijuana. And during his time in the spotlight (see a video of his chat below), he made it clear that if he had his way, pot would be tightly regulated and clubs for those who want to consume it would be banned.

His remarks stuck in the craw of attorney Rob Corry, a pot club backer who spoke at the same subcommittee meeting. He sees Hancock's proposed club prohibition as both wrongheaded and unconstitutional.

At the Monday session, Hancock framed his objections to marijuana clubs around the issuing of driving while stoned. He maintained that cops have only recently gotten a handle on how to tell if someone is suffering from THC impairment -- a claim certain to be disputed by law-enforcement types, since the behavior has long been illegal -- and suggested that such venues would put even more dangerous potheads on the road.

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Michael Hancock speaking before the Denver City Council marijuana subcommittee.
"We remind ourselves that we're still dealing with a federally controlled substance," he said, adding, "I don't believe it is wise to open the door even wider for people to move about our public from a private club to their private home while consuming marijuana. And the more we restrict it, to me, the more safe our community will be. There's no reason we need to open up that Pandora's box when the law doesn't speak to it.

"I propose and advocate for the most restrictive regulatory environment for marijuana," he went on, "and I believe that by allowing for private clubs, it doesn't speak to that value."

These comments, and others like them, thrilled Smart Colorado, an organization that wants to err on the side of caution when implementing Amendment 64. A statement from spokeswoman Diane Carlson reads:

Smart Colorado applauds Denver Mayor Michael Hancock for his leadership on this difficult issue. His strong statement to the city council stakes positions we support: Our top priorities must be protection of public health and safety for individuals and communities. Smart Colorado agrees with Mayor Hancock that the regulatory structure of marijuana must pay for itself. We agree that public hearings must be required before pot retailers are allowed to open. We agree that Denver should not support public marijuana consumption. Smart Colorado hopes the Denver City Council will be inspired by Mayor Hancock's words when considering the safest and most responsible approaches to Amendment 64.
Far less enthusiastic is Corry, with whom we spoke for yesterday's post about his decision not to challenge CU-Boulder's campus closure on 4/20.

At the dawn of the new year, Corry appeared twice on CNN to tout Club 64, described as Colorado's first pot club; we've included both of those clips here as well. He continues to see clubs like this as perfectly legal under Colorado law and argues that restrictions on them would run afoul of the state constitution.

Continue for more about marijuana clubs, including photos and videos.



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mary.yubuggin
mary.yubuggin

Political correctness is unconstitutional, but that doesn't stop people from having other people punished for the offensive things that they say. No one heeds,  and acts on,  my good points, so why should I care about the good points made by others?

JimTom
JimTom

Question for anyone with real info, did the 4/20 civic center party get a special exemption in their permit from the provisions of A64?  Or is the city of Denver not inforcing the NO SMOKING IN PUBLIC provision of A64? Just wondering why they are already not inforcing the admendment.

stuka1
stuka1

"We remind ourselves that we're still dealing with a federally controlled substance," [Hancock] said...

 Not for long, dipshit.

Federal marijuana bill would ease conflict between federal prohibition and Colorado laws

WASHINGTON - A federal marijuana bill introduced in Congress Friday would fix the conflict between federal prohibition of the drug and Colorado laws allowing medical and recreational use of marijuana.

California Republican Rep. Dana Rohrabacher said his bill, which has three Republican and three Democratic sponsors, would ensure that state laws on pot are respected by the feds.

The measure would amend the Controlled Substances Act to make clear that individuals and businesses, including marijuana dispensaries, who comply with state marijuana laws are immune from federal prosecution.

"This bipartisan bill represents a common-sense approach that establishes federal government respect for all states' marijuana laws," Rohrabacher said in a news release. "It does so by keeping the federal government out of the business of criminalizing marijuana activities in states that don't want it to be criminal."

khoums
khoums

who thinks donkey hotay has at least 10 user ids?


Cannabidiolator
Cannabidiolator

Dear moderator?  Please ban the Stuka/Donkey exchanges.  Many will stop reading comments as a way to frame debate, if they have to wade through the pointlessness of these exchanges.

Carson
Carson

"The more we restrict it, to me, the more safe our community will be."

Read it and weep, suckers, cuz you obviously didn't read it before you voted on it.

This is EXACTLY what Amendment 64 calls for -- MORE prohibition, not less like you fools were led to believe by a lying media. Restrictions, restrictions, restrictions (regulation, regulation, regulation) DOES NOT EQUAL "legalization." 

DUMB-ASSES -- giving all control over weed to the same government thugs who repressed and arrested you for all those years. 

Read it and weep, indeed. NEXT TIME READ BEFORE YOU VOTE!!!!

JimTom
JimTom

You do live in a dream world. If you think this bill will every even hit the floor you had better take off those glasses and take a real look.

stuka1
stuka1

@Cannabidiolator  

Dear Canabidiolator? The Stuka/Jackass exchanges exist because the moderators don't have the stones to ban the Jackass for its pointless vitriolic trolling of anyone and everyone who posts here, all day every day for the past fucking year.

hth

stuka1
stuka1

@Carson Yeah, "more prohibition". Except for that inconvenient little part about everyone over 21 being able to grow and stockpile an unlimited amount of their own cannabis and carry and/or give away up to a full ounce at any given time.

khoums
khoums

@Carson ah donkey has another user id ! 

 it decreases prohibition hence the not getting busted whie in possession of an ounce if you are 21 or older. funny alcohol is regulated , driving, teaching, scuba diving, flying a plane are too --I guess we're all to believe they arent legal now --hell even free speech ids regulated .

 only a compete moron believes it will be legalized like oregano any time within the next 50 years.

 pull your head out and wash that hair!

stuka1
stuka1

@Carson  

Oh, look, the Jackass has yet another pathetic idiot sock puppet!

 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Carson          *** REGULATION WORKS!! ***

                           *** Get REGULATED, bitches! ***

JimTom
JimTom

That's the answer I would expect from someone that doesn't know anything. Notice above I asked for comments by "anyone with real info". It is just a question dickhead, you can believe anything you want about my motivation. We KNOW your motivation as part of what has become the elite that are allowed to sell in this state. We KNOW what the MMJ mafia is concermned about, and that is mantaining their monopoly on the sale of pot. Don't want competiton for 2 years? I will sell in your parking lot. Better keep an eye outside, I am a quick drug dealer.  

stuka1
stuka1

@JimTom 

"If you think this bill will every even [sic  LOL!] hit the floor blah blah blah...."

You don't know that.


JimTom
JimTom

@sucka1 as if that isn't the muslim calling the christian and idiot. Is that less racist for you?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1  "I have better things to do than respond to your inane babblings."

Epic FAIL from the Epic FAILURE!

Carson
Carson

@DonkeyHotay Regulation works for the police who will achieve a major new funding source from it. 

Show me one provision in A64 that was written to benefit the people over the police or the populace over the government?A64 is a cop's wet dream.

stuka1
stuka1

@JimTom 

"We KNOW your motivation as part of what has become the elite that are allowed to sell in this state. We KNOW what the MMJ mafia is concermned [sic] about, and that is mantaining [sic] their monopoly on the sale of pot. Don't want competiton [sic] for 2 years? I will sell in your parking lot. Better keep an eye outside, I am a quick drug dealer.  "

Who the fuck are you babbling at? 

Shit you make up =/= reality, hth fucking moron

I'll certainly enjoy seeing your mug shot here on the A64 Darwin Awards page, though.

stuka1
stuka1

@JimTom <==== lying sack of prohibitionist shit

 "It is just a question dickhead, you can believe anything you want about my motivation"

Your pathetic prohibitionist-ass-sucking motive is quite clear, you stated it yourself:

 "Or is the city of Denver not inforcing [sic] the NO SMOKING IN PUBLIC provision of A64? Just wondering why they are already not inforcing [sic] the amendment"

It's not "just a question", it's a loaded question, setting up for you to whine about A64 because the police aren't going to try to arrest everyone there.

Stupid ruse, no one is fooled.

hth fucking moron.

stuka1
stuka1

@JimTom  

Babble much, dumbass?

PS: muslim = christian = hare krishna = scientologist = mormon = witch doctor = all superstitious nonsense

stuka1
stuka1

@JimTom 

"I knew there was a reason I have fired 10's of thousands of rounds at the range"

.......because you couldn't hit the broad side of a fucking barn on the first 9,999 shots.

stuka1
stuka1

@JimTom 

Incoherent babble much?

HipTip: Why don't you ask your vague incoherent question to whatever "MMJ owners" [sic] you are referring to?

 hth fucking moron

BTW I love the way you use a cutesy moniker consisting of your name and your boyfriend's. How.....trite.


JimTom
JimTom

Just part of the MMJ monopoly that brought you the piece of crap A64. 2 year before anyone can compete with the MMJ mafia, sounds like a typical bullshit play by the rich to stay the rich. Hey sucka1 why did the MMJ owners push for that part in the commitee? You won't let me compete straight up? No problem I will sell in your fucking parking lot!

JimTom
JimTom

I knew there was a reason I have fired 10's of thousands of rounds at the range.

stuka1
stuka1

@khoums 

Gotta laugh at the imbecile who CLAIMS to own a dispensary and makes what can legally be seen as multiple credible threats against multiple people over the internet, with aggravating factors of (supposedly -- anyone really believe this bullshit?) being a martial arts instructor and use of a firearm, and gives a (supposed) business address and posts (supposed) photos of himself, so any enterprising prohibitionist that wanders onto this blog can drop a dime on him and send the cops after him, getting his MMC shut down on top of it. I am just waiting to see his avatar pic on the Westword Schmuck page. 

And HE whines about how he thinks others are ruining things by exercising their rights under A64. How would the MMJ industry view a MMC owner getting himself busted for making stupid threats at people who prove his idiotic statements wrong on the internet, and how that reflects on the rest of the MMJ industry? ...even if he doesn't get his stupid ass busted, he makes the whole industry look bad.  Good job.

khoums
khoums

@zgonzalez123 @stuka1  

 Ah and the truth comes out--you fight like a little girl and rely on fire arms --and have resorted to assault here online --more balls than brains. and I seriously doubt you could fight your way out of a wet paper bag.

khoums
khoums

@zgonzalez123 @stuka1  

 you havent been out of the house for three days and you claim to train 5 days a week?  Hell -you cant even count to 7 . lol thanks for showing everyone your lack of "superior thinking skills"


khoums
khoums

@zgonzalez123 @stuka1

 You dont have two brain cells to rub together let alone "superior thinking skills. 

 btw as a former instructor of Kenpo for  25 years Im here to inform you , if you have to think when you are fighting you will lose. Thats the purpose of doing things a million times , so it becomes your natural reaction. but youre still a babe in the woods, it'll take you a while to get that.

khoums
khoums

@zgonzalez123 @stuka1 guess youve missed the thousands of vitriol posted by donkey. and its all over the internet on several sites not just this one.

zgonzalez123
zgonzalez123

Ya that's what I fucking thought ill be there at 4pm today 10am tomorrow Monday from 5-830 wed 5-7 thurs 5-830 and Friday 5-830 any time works for me!

zgonzalez123
zgonzalez123

@stuka1 @zgonzalez123 

oh so your Internet threats and your big balls just disappeared as soon as a physical challenge comes along??? Yawn at that you fat fuck

zgonzalez123
zgonzalez123

@stuka1 10200 e girard building d near Hamden and Havana I BEG you! MR. 300 lb haven't been out of the house in 3 days motherfucker! I bet you get winded walking up the stairs

zgonzalez123
zgonzalez123

@stuka1 @zgonzalez123 

please come to my gym so I can show u what I am good at I have 3 years of training 5 days a week under my belt... Im far from the fat ass old motherfucker sitting at his computer talking shit... we can settle this like men. Come play a game of human chess and see whos critical thinking skills are superior!

stuka1
stuka1

@zgonzalez123 <==== can't think its way out of a paper bag.

Be sure to kiss your children goodbye first, Neo.

zgonzalez123
zgonzalez123

@stuka1 

you are nothing but a big mouth keyboard warrior bring your harsh words to my gym and see how far they get you. You think belittling people makes you a big man cause you can say mean things on the internet get a fucking clue I see u in real life im gonna give you a fucking reality check!

stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay 

Indeed I have better things to do than kick your ass all over the place whenever I please.

But I do it anyway.

Life's like that.

hth you pathetic chickenshit whiny pussy

khoums
khoums

@Carson @DonkeyHotay  

 I already know people who have benefited kept their weed and driven off having an ounce with them  and POOF goes your premise.

stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay <==== LYING pathological LIAR

@DonkeyHotay"
The PRIMARY PURPOSE of prohibitionist A64 declares it to be IN THE INTEREST OF LAW ENFORCEMENT !!"

"(1) Purpose and findings.
               (a) IN THE INTEREST OF [1] THE ***EFFICIENT USE*** OF LAW ENFORCEMENT *****RESOURCES****, [2] ENHANCING REVENUE FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES, AND ***** [3] INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM***** ,,,"


The "EFFICIENT USE of law enforcement RESOURCES" -- which you constantly MISREPRESENT, you pathetic lying ignorant shitstain -- is diverting those resources AWAY from marijuana users and toward REAL crime.

hth you pathetic chickenshit whiny pussy

stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay <==== resorts to pathetic attempts at insults every time he gets PWNED

stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay

" violation OF ..."

HipTip: Shit you make up =/= facts

Hard lesson for  a pathological liar such as you.

hth you pathetic shitstain

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 = gutless lying shitsucking cunt, just like his cock-sucking crack-whore mother raised him.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 ... violation OF ... not violations OUTSIDE the SCOPE ... you stump-stupid stammering know-nothing lying cunt.


stuka1
stuka1

@El_Derpo<=== the punk bitch Jackass with a smelly sock and a death wish

stuka1
stuka1

@Carson

"Regulation works for the police who will achieve a major new funding source from it"

 "The Colorado Constitution, through Amendment 64, now specifically provides that any violation of Amendment 64 should be dealt with as a civil administrative matter, not as a criminal case. See Colorado Constitution, Article XVIII §16(5)(a)(IX) (“civil penalties for failure to comply with regulations made pursuant to this section.”)

-- Rob Corry, co-author of A64


hth punkass bitch sock puppet

El_Derpo
El_Derpo

@suka1 <<<<: derpus delicti

stuka1
stuka1

@El_Derpo < ==== pathetic chickenshit donkey's pathetic chickenshit sock puppet

El_Derpo
El_Derpo

@stuka1 <<<<=== diarrhea derpstain

stuka1
stuka1

@Carson "Show me one provision in A64 that was written to benefit the people over the police or the populace over the government?A64 is a cop's wet dream."

Anyone over 21 can grow, and can keep all they grow, can possess and give away an ounce, etc etc etc

hth prohibitionist sock puppet

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Carson ... REGULATION WORKS ... for the REGULATORS!

The PRIMARY PURPOSE of prohibitionist A64 declares it to be IN THE INTEREST OF LAW ENFORCEMENT !!


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