Marijuana: THC driving bill reaches senate committee next week -- right after 4/20

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The current incarnation of Colorado House Bill 1114, the THC driving bill gained House approval earlier this month and is headed for the Senate Judiciary Committee next Monday, April 22, after the 4/20 weekend.

Given that timing, several activists -- including Cannabis University founder Michelle LaMay -- are urging 4/20 revelers to use taxis and public transportation, as police may be looking for marijuana-impaired drivers.

Senator Steve King, an outspoken advocate of setting a THC limit, is on the Senate Judiciary Committee; he's also a co-sponsor of HB 1114 this year. He pushed to set THC limits in 2011 and 2012; both efforts failed, which led to a change in strategy this year.

While previous bills attempted to set a hard five nanogram-per-milliliter of blood limit that would be irrefutable in court -- the legal term is "per se" -- HB 1114 would label this standard as a "permissible inference" of intoxication that would allow defendants to introduce evidence to the contrary. The measure's supporters suggest that this would let medical marijuana patients show they weren't impaired at that level. But critics -- and there are many -- say the bill is just as bad as previous versions because it continues to ignore science indicating that five nanograms per milliliter doesn't necessarily mean impairment. Further, they argue that the bill isn't needed at all, since Colorado currently has a roughly 90 percent conviction rate on drugged-driving cases.

"Our current DUI law is incredibly effective," says Colorado NORML director Leonard Frieling in a release. "We are experienced with it. It is not broken. It covers ALL drug and alcohol impairment. A new law on this subject can only present additional opportunities for defense attorneys and additional hardships for citizens, inappropriately."

I agree. Two years ago, I had my blood tested more than twelve hours after I had last used marijuana; a physician had deemed me sober. The results of the test showed that I was nearly three times over the proposed limit.

Activists are urging people to reach out to members of the Senate Judiciary Committee to voice their concerns before Monday. Here are the contacts:

Lucia Guzman, Chair
Capitol phone: 303-866-4862
E-mail: lucia.guzman.senate@state.co.us

Jessie Ulibarri, Vice-Chair
Capitol phone: 303-866-4857
E-mail: jessie.ulibarri.senate@state.co.us

Irene Aguilar
Capitol phone: 303-866-4852
E-mail: irene.aguilar.senate@state.co.us

Steve King
Capitol phone: 303-866-3077
E-mail: steve.king.senate@state.co.us

Kevin Lundberg
Capitol phone: 303-866-4853
E-mail: kevin@kevinlundberg.com

More from our Mile Highs and Lows archive: "THC blood test: Pot critic William Breathes nearly 3 times over proposed limit when sober."


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BuddJones
BuddJones

I'm just glad that Colorado is The Marijuana Capitol of the World.


Who cares is the price keep dropping every day


Who cares if it grown in your mother's basement 



We are proud of the citizens of Colorado who have proven POT BE GOOD FOR COLORADO


Thank you all posters on this forum for your support...You won it for all of us.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

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mark_slaugh
mark_slaugh

Unisex bathrooms for all; problem solved.

ccapra
ccapra

Why don't we open this up to everything that could impair driving?  Why limit it to THC or even alcohol?  Since it doesn't prove impairment, let's further test the full Senate and Congress and see how many have substances of anytype in their bodies they shouldn't be driving on.  After all, this is about safe driving isn't it?

Ed Haas
Ed Haas

I do believe that if there was a test done among drivers who smoked daily vs. those who don't? You'd find that the ones wgovdovsmoke daily drive better and have better driving records than those who don't smoke. It relaxes as well as helps focus on what's directly in front of you. Herb is like a PED for driving. People tend to stay around the speed limit and that paranoia? Typically causes people to obey the laws even moreso. I'd rather be around a thousand stoned drivers than around even one person who's drunk and driving.

Deborah Watts
Deborah Watts

I am a responsible medical marijuana user for 33 years! I have a great driving record! I AM more worried about the alcohol and pills that others are using! I KNOW of MANY alcohol ABUSERS on their 9th or 10th DUI. STILL ALLOWED TO DRIVE...HELL..O!

Jane Wallace
Jane Wallace

It's going to be a nightmare weekend with all those high people wandering around the downtown area!!

Steve Paradise
Steve Paradise

I will not be venturing downtown /with all the cameras and gov in the wings /remember the denver police will beat you !!

Michelle LaMay
Michelle LaMay

Duid and blood draw protest!!! April 22 at 1:00pm Denver Capitol Building in Denver.

Steve Paradise
Steve Paradise

no this is the problem the time it takes for mj to rid your system in 4 to 6 weeks /this nano testing is not accurate but needless to say I will not be driving or puffing ever anymore oh nix the puffing part

Bo Bryant
Bo Bryant

who gives a fuck, theryre gonna do what they want aint shit u can do about but ride the wave and roll with the punches.

nemopunk15
nemopunk15 topcommenter

That's the real beauty here, you're not just commenting on a forum, you're signing up for countless reply s from a psychotic troll.

Mile_Hi_Dave
Mile_Hi_Dave

Amazing how they have absolutely NO SCIENCE to justify this 5 Ng limit!!!  At least they did have the sense not to make it "per se".  Wanna know what a joke this really is?  I'm a disabled veteran and thus, thankfully, I have everything covered.  After my 50th birthday last October, I had that big physical you get when you are a man and you are 50. :(  Long story short, I fasted 24 hours and laid off the cannabis...and still showed >400 Ng!  Yep, that's right, 24 hours after consuming, I showed greater than 400 Ng's.  How high do you suppose I was 24 hrs after consuming??  This alone shows how ignorant & unscientific  this law really is! :( 

neder
neder

Nice job lenny!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

"Our current DUI law is incredibly effective," says Colorado NORML director and Marijuana McLawyer Leonard Frieling.

Well Lenny, you A64 idiots should have thought of that when you wrote the pathetic turd that is A64, which permanently enshrined into the Colorado Constitution that DUI-marijuana shall remain ILLEGAL, while FAILING to set any scientifically objective limits or standards for it.

Now we're supposed to believe that Lenny actually laments that such a glaring ERROR and OMISSION will send MILLIONS OF $$$$  into the bank accounts of Marijuana McLawyers from hapless stoners caught DUI-m

LOL!

michael.roberts
michael.roberts moderator editortopcommenter

@ccapra It'd be interesting to see if any officials would take your suggestion, ccapra. Thanks for the post.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Ed Haas ... most of us would rather be around drivers who are NEITHER drunk nor STONED, asshole.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@lochlannmatt ... except that little thing called "IMPLIED CONSENT" which YOU AGREED to when you got your Drivers License means that if you refuse to be tested, you will lose your license.

Furthermore, you can still be convicted of DUI without the results of any breath or blood test, on Officer testimony and observation alone.

If you want to get stoned, then DON'T DRIVE, asshole.


instntkrma
instntkrma

@Steve Paradise no, they'll beat Corey Donahue.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Michelle LaMay ... good info ... but it doesn't mean you can't still be convicted of DUI-marijuana, even without a blood test, or that they can't get a warrant forcing the blood draw.

And REFUSING testing is a violation of the IMPLIED CONSENT you agreed to when you got your Driver License, and will result in the automatic suspension of that license.


stuka1
stuka1

@Bo Bryant 

Or you could get involved in the political process and influence their decision before it is made. 

They  call it "democracy".

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Mile_Hi_Dave ... amazing how the Lying Liars who wrote and promoted that turd A64 -- Vicente, Tvert, et. al. -- were TOO INCOMPETENT to include any Scientifically Objective DUI-m standards or minimums when they declared that "DUI Marijuana Shall Remain ILLEGAL" and put that open invitation to legislative abuse into the Colorado Constitution!

Reap what ye sow, suckers! ... YOU Voted for It!


stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay 

" permanently enshrined into the Colorado Constitution"

@DonkeyHotay <==== Pathetic prohibitionist pathological LIAR! 

Shit you make up =/= FACTS.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@michael.roberts @ccapra 

It's interesting that idiots like you and crapra don't know that LAW ALREADY criminalizes Driving While Impaired regardless of the type of drugs involved, even prescription pharmaceuticals.


lochlannmatt
lochlannmatt

@DonkeyHotay @lochlannmatt  ps i got my big rig lic stoned 27 years ago. 2.3 million miles since and all 'impaired' according to USDOT. But the older i get the less likely Ill get popped>i piss too often as i get older. got your a-hole hanging.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@BackOffImStarving ... pathetic stoners can't separate themselves from their drug of choice ... even for a moment.

Typical cognitive dysfunction of ALL addicts.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 ... Bück Dich and get REGULATED, bitch!

It's what you begged for!


stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay

shit you make up =/= "realities" 

hth you pathetic chickenshit whiny pussy prohibitionist turncoat

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@ccapra ... run, run and hide from the uncomfortable realities of life ... it's what you stoners do best.

@ccapra "I do hope and pray you never ever get yourself identified publicly for your own personal safety."

Are you implying that Stupid Stoners like you are violent criminals?

ccapra
ccapra

@DonkeyHotay @michael.roberts @ccapra Yes dickhead but no one's railing on about them and pushing specific bills to identify them are they?  I think I'll keep my comments to Facebook as you're such an incredible asshole that I can't imagine why anyone would want to take further time to comment on these boards and subject themseleves to your outward hostility.  YOU have serious issues you should be seeing a mental health professional for and I do hope and pray you never ever get yourself identified publicly for your own personal safety.

lochlannmatt
lochlannmatt

@DonkeyHotay @lochlannmatt Dear Einstein, The IC is a given. None the less the cop needs suspicion, even in the event of a fatality. Say cop asks for a blood sample; few  follow you to the hospital. Fewer will hold you down in order to gain a sample cuz that increases liability cases and settlements. Or foul the piss test and take it two days later. There's lots of dances you can do. The choice now is breath or urine or blood. Mandatory blood needs a warrant. Bye.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@lochlannmatt "its [sic] more evasive [sic] than piss test. "

HipTip: "Implied Consent" is a VOLUNTARY agreement. If you want your privacy protected to smoke pot and not be tested, then don't sign the agreement.


lochlannmatt
lochlannmatt

@DonkeyHotay michigan and 14 other states dont accept metabolites as evidence of impairment. thus the implied consent for the more protected blood draw (rather than piss test) runs headlong into "constitutionally protected privacy interests". its more evasive than piss test. 

Even with the NCAA suspending players for mj metabolites(urine)...theyre

 going to suspend players for something not illegal in 14 states? Really. what next?...removing the tag on my mattress?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 

Q: what law prevented you from giving away marijuana ...?

@stuka1 "No law. I simply haven't grown"

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 = lies like the prevaricating puerile punk that he is.

stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay <==== shit you make up =/= facts

hth you pathetic prohibitionist shitstain

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1

A64 = a CONTINUATION of ALL FELONY CRIMINAL Prohibitions against ALL rec. Marijuana Users and Growers under 21 in Colorado.

A64 = a CONTINUATION of ALL MISDEMEANOR CRIMINAL Prohibitions against ALL rec. Marijuana Users and Growers under 21 in Colorado.

A64 = a CONTINUATION of ALL FELONY CRIMINAL Prohibitions against ANYONE who dares sell ANY AMOUNT of marijuana privately between consenting adults.


stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay A64 was DEMOCRACY in action, sucker! Too bad you were on the losing side of the prohibitionists!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@stuka1 .... Yep! ... DEMOCRACY in ACTION!

Why do you hate America?


stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay 

Prohibition was pre-information-age ramrod bullshit, the Congress didn't even understand what they were voting on, driven by the same sort of distortions, misinformation, DISinformation, and outright LIES that the Jackass (YOU) panders here every day.

stuka1
stuka1

@DonkeyHotay <=== showing off its obsession with gay anal sex again  

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