Marijuana: Will recreational pot live or die in Colorado Springs?

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While Denver City Council members seem to be on track for allowing recreational marijuana stores within city limits, their compatriots in Colorado Springs aren't nearly as far along. If it were up to Colorado Springs mayor Steve Bach, there wouldn't be any recreational sales in his city: Bach has been outspoken in his opposition of Amendment 64. But the Springs City Council also has six new members, three of whom say they would favor allowing stores, two of whom want a ban, and one who's undecided at the moment.

The city is seeing strong opposition from the local military segment. Fort Carson Commander Major General Paul LeCamera has openly called for a citywide ban in Colorado Springs. "I told the mayor, it goes against good order and discipline," LeCamera told the Pueblo Chieftain.

Pueblo's city council has already approved a one-year moratorium. According to the Chieftain, the base is currently being considered for a 3,000-troop expansion -- but Fort Carson leaders say that legalized marijuana sales might discourage the Army from expanding the base.

A potential loss of jobs is a major talking point for the Colorado Springs Regional Business Alliance, according to the Colorado Springs Gazette. The group, which promotes the city to businesses looking to relocate, says the legalization laws have chilled talks with a few clients.

But supporters of recreational sales point out that the same argument was made against medical marijuana sales, and there was no loss of jobs or businesses. "Medical marijuana has brought jobs to the community," new councilmember Jill Gaebler told the Gazette. "There are already some social clubs (for recreational marijuana), and I want them to prosper. It's a growing market we should pursue." Gaebler has said she will support retail sales.

According to state records, El Paso County, which includes Colorado Springs, saw more than $35 million in retail medical cannabis sales in 2012, netting nearly $1 million in tax revenue.

More from our Marijuana archive: "Marijuana: Councilman on plan to weed out 'idiots' from Denver pot industry."

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THEE420
THEE420

HELL YEAH .... SEE YA PUEBLO CITY COUNCIL.   WEED WILL ALWAYS BE AROUND RETARDS .... LETS TAX IT FEED PUEBLO MUCH NEEDED TAXES.

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

"I told the mayor, it goes against good order and discipline," LeCamera told the Pueblo Chieftain

So keep your paid killers on your base.

thomasmc
thomasmc

If City Council chooses to ignore the will of the voters who passed Amend. 64, they will face the wrath of those voters on election day, when we replace them with representatives who will actually respresent us.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Will Colorado Springs Nix the Knuckleheads ?


Chad Hill
Chad Hill

I think 2 to 3 years from now, they will wish they hadn't.

Dylan Wike
Dylan Wike

Colorado Springs should move to Utah

Paul Adams
Paul Adams

Lots of retired military could use it for PTSD.

Jarred Jennings
Jarred Jennings

Not if they want to be economically efficient!!!!!!!!!!!!

Half Aspen
Half Aspen

Whether pot shops survive really isn't the question. Whether our votes mean a damn is.

Adam Aedro Drotar
Adam Aedro Drotar

Co springs seems like a tourist trap with little else really goin on. I wouldn't be surprised either way.

BroncoDan
BroncoDan

I am sure people are still going to use it even if it is illegal.

MMJIQ
MMJIQ

good report. pro or con A64, Prohibition by law and by definition is over. 

but a battle royal is taking place in Colorado Springs.  watch live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1A5YwRFlIQ

Part 1: 5 Retired Generals take up about 15 min with neo prohibitionist reefer madness talk,. favors ban.

Part 2: Industry fights back at min 21:30, calls out the 5 Generals. KC Stark, MMJBusinessAcademy.com 

Part 3: Conspire (aka, drug testing company that makes $ by having Americans piss in a cup) uses yellow journalism, and politics of fear and favors a ban.  The independent study cited is so far off the mark.  It used a wholesale price of $600 and a 15% tax rate.  

The wholes sale price TODAY in Colorado ranges from $1,800 - $2,500.

Part 4: Industry fights back at min 31:30; Ashley owner of the Herb Shoppe uses logic and common sense.

It is a hard video to watch.  reefer madness is still alive and well with Mayor Bach, his Generals, and companies that want to keep prohibition alive and well.

Get up. Stand up. Stand up for your rights.

Monkey
Monkey

Is anyone besides Denver allowing weed stores?

Green_eyes
Green_eyes

I'm sure it will live.... Illegally or legally.....

nemopunk15
nemopunk15 topcommenter

35 million in sales in Just CO-Springs? Not to shabby for a 5 year old industry that is massively over-regulated and has no access to banking. 

Speaking of Banking, if that 35 Million can't be put in a bank where do you suppose it went? From the looks of things most of it was reinvested back in to these business, helping keep Springs afloat for the last several years.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

 "$1 million in tax revenue"... LOL! ... a PATHETIC WASTE not worth the hassle and expense of having to suffer the Puerile Pot Clown Circus.

Hey Pot Punks ... if you want to run with the Big Dogs of Capitalism, you'll have to cough-up way more than 1 pathetic million in government tax bribes.

Like the Big Lie promoted by A64 -- and pimped by the prevaricators Vicente and Tvert -- which baited $40 MILLION MINIMUM per YEAR in Excise taxes toward Schools. But now that sniveling stoners are reneging on their promise of MASSIVE TAX $$ Windfalls, the lawmakers and deceived electorate are kicking you lying punks to the gutter where you belong.

Good thing that A64 explicitly allows Cities and Counties to COMPLETELY BAN all retail marijuana operations if they so desire. Thanks lyin' Brian Vicente and mendacious Mason Tvert!


michael.roberts
michael.roberts moderator editortopcommenter

@thomasmc I'll bet plenty of people feel as you do, thomasmc. Thanks for posting.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Steve Holmberg

                  CO Springs = Home to Colorado's Taliban



michael.roberts
michael.roberts moderator editortopcommenter

@Dylan Wike Funny. Thanks for the post, Dylan.

DonQuixote
DonQuixote

@Virginia Lee why?  Embrace your fear.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Half Aspen ... YOU voted to ALLOW every city and county in Colorado the power to BAN COMPLETELY all commercial marijuana operations, fuckwit.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Monkey ... after the puerile parade of pot pimps perverting A20 while promoting the charade of "medical" marijuana the last 5 years... and the PALTRY tax revenues collected which don't even cover the COSTS of enforcement and regulation ... and now the stoners reneging on the tax bait offered by A64 ... why would they?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@nemopunk15 "35 million in sales in Just CO-Springs? Not to shabby for ..."

... slacker-stoners who think $16.41 a YEAR per person average sales is something to shout about.

Epic FAIL!

I'd donate $20 / year just to see you puerile pot punks kicked to the gutter.

hth.


MMJIQ
MMJIQ

@DonkeyHotay indeed, it would have been nice if they'd left that part out.  it's the salt with the sugar, or in some cases the bank or the tank. depends on how the LLA's and local potOlitics works out.  we're fighting like gunslingers and founding fathers to get the Springs over the next city council meeting on June 27th.  maybe you should join us.  3 min. on stage. all yours. who knows, which voice will be heard and make an impact.

i don't always agree with you, but i agree that it is American to fight for what one believes. 


MMJIQ
MMJIQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1A5YwRFlIQ

Donkey, watch min 51:00 when a local mmj owner with no game in his name goes rouge (ake protectionism) and kisses up to  Bach.  his claims sound so much like a pig, i thought i was back on the farm.

Guest
Guest

@DonkeyHotay 

Wait

For one, the FIRST $40MM of tax revenue was promised.  There was no promise of $40MM

Next, the cries of low tax revenue are coming from who?  People that want it kept illegal?  Doesn't low tax revenue mean low use?  Am I wrong or people for prohibition wanting others to use more marijuana to get more taxes?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@DonQuixote ... the fear of Puerile Pot Punks Parading in Perpetual Petulance?


nemopunk15
nemopunk15 topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay How is your crop of mold, mildew and spider mites coming along? 

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@MMJIQ ... when the clueless bong-sucking stoners comprehend that THEIR BEST INTERESTS are in DIRECT OPPOSITION to the best interests of the Profiteering Greedy Big $$$ Dispensary Cartels and their partners in crime at the insatiable Dept. of Revenue -- always have been, always will be -- then perhaps they'll stop allowing themselves to be used as tools, fools and pawns in the Pot Clown Circus.


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