Marijuana: How will testing of cannabis products and edibles work?

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As we wrote yesterday, the state is still ironing out details in the new laws written for both the recreational and medical marijuana industries, including hash-making regulations. But that's not all.

Officials are also discussing edibles rules for both recreational and medical users, production caps for the recreational industry, and details of state lab testing of cannabis and cannabis products. Public comment will be taken on these proposed changes Novenber 18. Below, we highlight some of the things still up in the air.

Production management
Regulators are trying to figure out just how much cannabis everyone will be able to legally grow once recreational sales come around. Another curve ball involves how much cannabis to allow transitioning medical marijuana centers to use.

As it stands now, the plant count medical stores are at now will probably dictate the one they'll use after they transition. The same goes for MIPs going through the same process. From the proposed rules:

For example, if 100 patients had designated a Medical Marijuana Center as his or her primary center at the time a Retail Marijuana Store license application was submitted, then no more than 600 plants be cultivated by that Retail Marijuana Store at its designated Retail Marijuana Cultivation Facility(-ies) at any one time, regardless of the total number of Retail Marijuana Cultivation licenses associated with that Retail Marijuana Store.
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Edibles selection at a Denver dispensary.
Edibles
There's only one area of proposed change to existing medical and recreational edibles manufacturer rules: Whether or not to require all owners and licensees to take a food handling course before doing business for both medical and recreational manufacturers. The course has to be accredited by the National Restaurant Association.

Otherwise, the rules that went into effect October 15 would remain the same.

Testing
In addition to the testing requirements specifically established for concentrates, which we discussed yesterday, the state is also testing every other type of cannabis product for sale. Most interesting are the additions to the section on state testing of cannabis that include defining "pesticides" as well as "residual solvents." The latter is used to describe materials left behind in the production of marijuana concentrates and includes butane, propane, heptane, ISO, Ethanol, Glycerin and CO2.

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Cannabis being tested by Steep Hill Labs in California.
Testing would require companies to turn in a test batch to the state at random; the sample would then be put through a number of tests for pesticides and other contaminates. The proposed language additions would require samples to be tested for molds, mildew, other filth and potency. The cost of the testing will be borne by the retail shop from which the products were taken. If the batch fails contaminate testing, the store would have to destroy it. That includes plant material, flowers, edibles, concentrates, everything. Violating the rule won't land you in jail, but it will likely count as a strike against your public safety record as a company and isn't going to look good come renewal time.

Recreational cannabis grow facilities would have to identify all pesticides, herbicides, fertlizers and other chemicals not only on packaging, but in filings with the state, as well. If shops use the same process for all strains, they can submit one report. If different strains are treated differently (which they usually are), each will require its own report. The state MED would have to sign off on any plans.

Pot growers will also face random sample testing which, if failed, could result in the loss of the entire batch. We assume that would mean anything from just one plant failing due to some mold to rejecting an entire harvest because someone didn't flush out the chemicals well enough. The proposed rules would also require growers to have their product tested before selling it to a retail facility. They would have to have it tested for potency before sale, too. Strains would be tested a minimum of four times from four different harvests before totals can be released. After that, grow facilities would have to conduct potency testing on each of the strains once a year.

The process is essentially the same for both recreational and medical marijuana sales and production.

Continue to read three original documents outlining the proposed rules.

Retail Mandatory Testing and Random Sampling Draft Language

Retail Edible Product Production Draft Rule Language

Language for Interim Production Cap Working Group

More from our Marijuana archive: "Marijuana: Inside proposed rules for hash and concentrates production."


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__McShyster__
__McShyster__

        -- Another Marijuana Dispensary Robbery -- 

LONGMONT -- Two employees at a Longmont marijuana dispensary were robbed at gunpoint at 6:45 p.m. on Thursday, the Boulder County Sheriff's Office reported.

According to reports, two men wearing masks entered Longmont New Age Wellness and robbed the employees at gunpoint, taking marijuana and "a small amount of cash." Initial reports to police indicated the robbers also stole two cell phones, but they were later recovered.

The business, at 19 S. Sunset St., is in a county enclave within Longmont city limits. It's located just to the north of the Sunset Street bridge, which has been out since the flood.

Longmont police initially responded and assisted the investigation using K-9s.

There are no suspects. Anyone with information is asked to call the Boulder County Sheriff's Office at 303-441-4444.

__McShyster__
__McShyster__

Hey Greedy Big $$ Dispensary Pigs -- how's that Government REGULATION you begged for working out for you?

Feel "legitimized" yet ??

LOL!



Che Harness
Che Harness

Why do people who are against marijuana being legal get to make up these rules?

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

I'm sure they'll figure out how to make it cost more legally than on the unlicensed market.

__McShyster__
__McShyster__

 *** Get REGULATED, Bitches !! ... you begged for it! ***

http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_24523519/colorado-regulators-want-know-how-much-does-marijuana

Colorado regulators want to know: How much does marijuana cost?

Colorado regulators have begun surveying marijuana businesses about the price of pot in an effort to implement a new excise tax that voters passed earlier this month.

The tax places a 15 percent levy on the wholesale price of recreational marijuana when it moves between the grower and the seller.

The challenge, though, is that Colorado's forthcoming recreational marijuana industry won't have a true wholesale market for at least the first nine months. Instead, marijuana businesses must initially grow almost everything they sell — meaning the wholesale transactions that will be subject to the excise tax are really just pot transfers between two parts of the same business in which no money is exchanged. Businesses are allowed only a small number of transactions in which they can buy marijuana grown by another business.

To still collect tax on in-house transfers, Colorado regulators will determine an "average market rate" that will apply to all grower-to-seller transfers.

"It's really difficult to figure out what that's going to be," said Meg Collins, the director of the Cannabis Business Alliance, a marijuana trade group.

That's where the survey comes in.

The questionnaire asks businesses how much marijuana they grew in the past year and how much they sold to other businesses — and at what price.

Mike Elliott, the executive director of the Medical Marijuana Industry Group, said he's worried such an approach will lead to an inflated average market rate. The transactions between businesses — what state regulators calls "arm's-length transactions" — are the most expensive transfers, Elliott said. Applying the price of those to in-house transfers could lead to businesses paying more tax than is fair, Elliott he said.

"There isn't a huge market for these arm's-length transactions because people are barely meeting their own demand," Elliott said.

Colorado regulators are also looking to differentiate between wholesale transfers of different cuts of marijuana. Buds, the most highly prized part of the plant, could be given a higher average market rate. Trim and leaves — leftovers from processing that can be used to make marijuana-infused products — could see a lower rate.

Daria Serna, a spokeswoman for the Department of Revenue, wrote in an e-mail that a public hearing is tentatively scheduled on the tax issues for Dec. 17. The tax rules are expected to be in place by Jan. 1, when the first retail marijuana stores open.



Clayton Capra
Clayton Capra

What does edible testing have to do with an education fund?

Johnny Genova
Johnny Genova

Theyll probably test it the same way it's been tested for years.

Phil Smith
Phil Smith

They can Always pay me to test tHem

Philip Wesley
Philip Wesley

Well, they should eat some and see what happens. I'll test it for them for a couple million a year.

Sean Garvey
Sean Garvey

Let me guess, that education fund won't be as big as they say?

Mozart99
Mozart99

he state is doing everything it can to thwart the will of the people. doctors tell patients wanting cards that nighttime disabilities do not quaify them. i.e. you can't sleep because of pain doesn't qualify you. but they figure out a way to give you the card so they can collect their $150.


Mozart99
Mozart99

the state is doing everything it can to thwart the will of the people. doctors tell patients wanting cards that nighttime disabilities do not quaify them. i.e. you can't sleep because of pain doesn't qualify you.

_McShyster_
_McShyster_

 "If the batch fails contaminate testing, the store would have to destroy it. That includes plant material, flowers, edibles, concentrates, everything."

Yeah baby -- Get REGULATED, Bitches ... you begged for it !!

They should also require destruction of all products bearing the dispensary's laughably exaggerated potency claims. Time to bring those lying greedy big $$ dispensary pigs to slaughter.


__McShyster__
__McShyster__

Looks like the City of Longmont was right to ban dispensaries from within the city limits, thus avoiding this kind of dangerous attractive nuisance.


__McShyster__
__McShyster__

@Che Harness ... because the STUPID STONERS surrendered total control of marijuana to those prohibitionists whilst begging for the FIST of REGULATION to be rammed up their ass ...

... all for a PATHETIC OUNCE of pot.


__McShyster__
__McShyster__

@Cognitive_Dissident ... it will ALWAYS cost more -- much more -- in the overly REGULATED and massively TAXED idiocy that the ignorant fuckwits begged to suffer.

The Greedy Big $$ Dispensary Pigs -- most of whom don't have any financial or accounting expertise -- are fucked between two rocks they ignorantly jumped in between. If they set the "wholesale cost" of pot too high, the 15% Excise Tax PLUS the SALES Taxes on top of that tax, will make their warehouse weed even more expensive at retail -- or they'll be forced to match the "black market" of private growers/caregivers and take a huge hit to their already dwindling profit margins.

If they attempt to game the system and set the wholesale price too low to minimize the 15% excise tax, then the short term increase in net profit will be all but wiped out by the ~60%+ effective income tax rate they are subject to under IRS laws that do not allow ANY standard business deductions on income from illegal activities.

It's a LOSE - LOSE situation for them.

Boycott the Greedy Big $$ Dispensary Cartels and their Law Enforcement bedfellows at the insatiable Dept. of Revenue -- GROW YOUR OWN, or buy from your favorite private TAX FREE Caregiver, Friends or Family like you've ALWAYS done.

Stop the Corporate Commercialization of Cannabis !!

.

nemopunk15
nemopunk15 topcommenter

@_McShyster_ We all get it Donkey. The Legal Marijuana trade in Colorado pushed you right out of business. You just can't compete with actual business owners while working out of your moms basement. Nobody wants your moldy, mildewy, mid grade weed when top quality lab tested cannabis is available at the store on the corner. Get over it. 


Time to find a new line of work or move to a full prohibition State. Or you could kill yourself. Everyone else that reads the Westword would LOVE it if you chose option 3.

ChiltonM
ChiltonM

Just admit that you're a scared, whiny pot grower with no other life skills who doesn't know how to compete.

_McShyster_
_McShyster_

@nemopunk15 = clueless puerile pot punk

Hey numbnuts, do pay attention -- the Stiflingly Strict Regulations coupled with the Massive Taxation placed upon the Greedy Big $$ Dispensary Pigs will FOREVER GUARANTEE that the Private Individual Growers / Caregivers -- aka the evil "black market" -- will always be in business, able to produce TAX FREE weed for far less $$ ... same as it ever was ... same as it ever was ...

Does it hurt to be so fucking stupid ??

.

__McShyster__
__McShyster__

@ChiltonM = another clueless bong-sucker who is oblivious to reality.

The Greedy Big $$ Dispensary Pigs just REGULATED and TAXED themselves right out of the market they were attempting to hijack and dominate.

Private Caregivers and Growers will ALWAYS be able to beat the Big $$ Dispensary Cartel pigs -- now more so than ever.

          *** REGULATION WORKS !! ***

ChiltonM
ChiltonM

You are just making shit up, hoping its true (it's not). Keep flailing.

Meanwhile in reality, you've now logged in under two names to read and respond to my posts.

You = double bottom bitch.

stupidstuka
stupidstuka

ClitonM = begs for the DOUBLE FIST of REGULATION and TAXATION!

ChiltonM
ChiltonM

That's right, keep reading.

Admit it: you like being a bitch.

__McShyster__
__McShyster__

@ChiltonM = the ignorant fucktard who buys overpriced, overtaxed, government controlled warehouse schwag from greedy big $$ dispensary pigs.


ChiltonM
ChiltonM

Yet you clearly couldn't help reading and responding to my posts.

You = my bitch.

ChiltonM
ChiltonM

Exactly. So you should probably resort to a hooker.

ChiltonM
ChiltonM

You sure are a bitter, angry person. Seek help. Or at least a hooker.

NotDoug
NotDoug

You've got no room to talk, bitch.

__McShyster__
__McShyster__

@DipshitDoug ... asks the clueless asswipe who feigns other people's user names.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay

@_McShyster_ How long does it take you to cut and paste the same comment, then log off and on to your alts so you can like the smell of your own shit?

_McShyster_
_McShyster_

@DipshitDoug = another illiterate bong-sucking stoner who has no political or legal comprehension of the issues at hand. 

Keep failing, chump, it's your only skill.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay

@_McShyster_ @nemopunk15 I'm such a moron, I can't remember what I cut and paste from day to day.  On one hand I hate 64 for pushing me out of business, on the other I say it will forever guarantee me a piece of the pie.  I talk out both sides of my arse.

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