Reader: Unhappy people in secession counties should move to Kansas

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Last week, we shared claims by backers of the 51st State Initiative that the effort was an "OVERWHELMING success" even though it was rejected by six of the eleven counties that considered it. A lot of our buyers weren't convinced, with some energetically telling unhappy voters in the places that cast ballots for secession where to go....

Sean Bracken writes:

I think they should all get the hell out of Colorado, move to Kansas and let the state keep its land and allow the people who like the state no matter what to stay in it.

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Ryan Bauer
Ryan Bauer

If its that bad move on, If you think its that bad in Colorado move out of state or better yet move to a third world country!

Ryan Darling
Ryan Darling

why is it Colorado's problem that a few rural people are resistant to change? And I'm humoring you by using "change" because Colorado has always had it unique, proud culture.

Ryan Darling
Ryan Darling

"not what the people of colorado want" My, aren't you speaking for everyone? Apparently not since we DID vote for them and you guys are the clear minority... Your secession stunt is just that... Nothing will come of aside from wasting enormous amounts of time. Get out.

NeedzMoarCowbell
NeedzMoarCowbell

Funny, I don't remember any Boulder secessionists when Republicans were running the joint...

Matt Leising
Matt Leising

Please move. We will not allow you to break up our state. Thank you :)

Renee Beauregard
Renee Beauregard

And I think people need to know what "getting their way" means to the rest of the state!

Renee Beauregard
Renee Beauregard

I disagree. What they need to do is work within the system to cause change. They need to educate others on why we should care about their issues. They need to remember that they need the tax base that they get from the city people they hate. They need to stop whining and start making change if they don't like it. Elect people they care about...but to do that, they have to convince the rest of us why we would want them to frack and have all the guns in the world. Yeah, that's a tough sell.

Rob Benson
Rob Benson

Oh, come on, Chris. Name calling and making assumptions are unbecoming. You should try to rise above that. Fact is, it is the conservatives in NE Colorado who want to secede because they're not getting their way. They chose to live in CO for myriad reasons. Now, because they are not getting their way, they are the ones who would be considered intolerant and unaccepting, assuming their way is the only way. They may have some valid points, at least in their opinion, but secession is an extreme option for those who would rather pout and walk away instead of having dialog with others.

Jesse Mann
Jesse Mann

I was born here and my parents moved to Nebraska when I was ten. I hated every second of it as compared to Denver. The week of my high school graduation I moved back and will never leave. I didn't fence off my house and say I wanted to secede off from Nebraska I just LEFT. A state is not owned by a few people it's owned by everyone. If you don't like your state government, the decisions they make or the rules they impose then leave. Don't stomp your feet like an angry child having a temper tantrum because your not getting your way.

Chris Estus
Chris Estus

I just love all the tolerance and acceptance that comes from liberals.

David Burns
David Burns

We All Love Colorado! But how many Fiefdoms do we need before every conservative in the state is happy?

Sara Vee
Sara Vee

This is a really interesting discussion. I'm honestly kind of surprised at how one sided it is. The people moving to the big cities along the front range are the ones who are primarily responsible for changing the political landscape of Colorado. Colorado has historically been a very conservative state. High numbers of liberals concentrated in a few metro areas of the state, many of them transplants from other places now have the majority and are making decisions that are not representative of rural Coloradans. I find the argument of, "if they don't love Colorado the way it is, they can leave" to be completely missing the point. These people love Colorado a lot. In many cases we are talking about multigenerational Coloradan families who are unhappy to see how their state is changing. By talking about succession, they are trying to protect and preserve the Colorado that they have known and loved for many years.

Pam Stiffler
Pam Stiffler

Kansas...Columbia...Outer Mongolia...anywhere except here works for me

Bob Knudsen
Bob Knudsen

Golly gee, please explain it so I can understand.

Kevin Doyle
Kevin Doyle

Bob, you seem to have no idea of what government is at all.

Ben Beeby
Ben Beeby

I think people fail to see that WATER is a big part of the issue. I disagree with these people having any political power, thats what happens in a democracy if there are not very many people that share your views, you have no power. However, it was pretty crappy that they closed Bonnie Reservoir, right in the middle of the new state of NE COLORADO, to settle the STATES debt with Kansas. Its not just guns. The state could have closed Chatfield, Cherry Creek or even John Martin, but it was Bonnie that got the axe.

Bob Knudsen
Bob Knudsen

Presumption, not assumption. And, no it isn't. Imminent domain is a means of governments taking land from people for express purposes, it doesn't mean they already own it and the citizens are renters.

Ben Beeby
Ben Beeby

Eminent Domain is in the Constitution. So it is not an assumption, it is a fact.

Bob Knudsen
Bob Knudsen

It's not Colorado's land, it's theirs. The presumption that these things belong to the state first and the people second is one of the major issues here, and not just for secessionists.

Brenda Lott
Brenda Lott

Well, that's all well and good, but the politicians you have are who the majority voted for. You can't just take your ball and go home, I'm afraid. The recalls occurred in very isolated cases with a very specific demographic which is not representative of Colorado or Colorado politics. I think those counties who wish to leave CO should do so and should join Kansas - it's a more agrarian and conservative state, by far, than Colorado. Those counties would be happier there.

DougHubka
DougHubka

They shouldn't move. Colorado should make a dal to sell these counties to Kansas. Maybe we could get a cut of the wheat crop each year. A Win Win situation

Craig Mac
Craig Mac

Sounds like a bunch of little kids not getting their way!! GO TO TIMEOUT, CHILDREN!! (In my chef voice from south park)

Dan Brown
Dan Brown

Disagree. I understand the anger over rural concerns not getting enough time compared to urban concerns, but that's where it ends. Secession means giving up. Giving up on democracy, giving up on dialogue and debate and giving up on neighbors being able to agree to disagree.

Nathan Campbell
Nathan Campbell

Disagree. It's not that they don't like Colorado, we love it. Just not the politicians running it. Bloomberg style politic are not what the people of Colorado want, the recall elections are proof.

Erin Alexander
Erin Alexander

Totally agree! If you don't like Colorado, don't live here.

Jo Nadani
Jo Nadani

Move to Canada with the Cruz fuktards....

RobertChase
RobertChase topcommenter

Michael, in context, "our buyers" makes exactly no sense. Buyers are, colloquially, people who accept what someone else tells them -- most of your readers do not buy into the notion of secession; in fact, most weren't even looking.

CONativeThornton
CONativeThornton

@Sara Vee Lets go back even farther to when these multi generational families moved to the plains and forced the Natives off their land imposing a new form of government. Now that its happening to them, they cry foul. People have been moving in mass to Colorado for 2 centuries, its a fluid population 

McShyster
McShyster

@Sara Vee .... who cares what a tiny group of Luddites that represent less than 1% of the populace wants?

Why do you hate Democracy?


JimTom
JimTom topcommenter

@Pam Stiffler True liberal acceptance.

DougHubka
DougHubka

@Bob Knudsen Actually Bob,  you are 100 % wrong. It is Colorado's land to govern. That was decided in 1876 when Colorado was granted statehood. The people living on the land, whether they owned it or not , agreed to live within the rules of the state government system.

Do you think we should return to some kind of a tribal system, where every little local fiefdom decides everything for themselves. Is this really what these people want ?

DougHubka
DougHubka

@Nathan Campbell  The People of Colorado also don't like NRA style leadership. Only 2 of the 4 recall efforts were successful.

McShyster
McShyster

@RobertChase = bought into the LIES of A64, voted for the FISTS of Strict Government Regulation and Massive NEW Taxes.


JimTom
JimTom topcommenter

@McShyster Who cares what any minority wants? Isn't Democracy supposed to give a voice to the minority?

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